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The G.O.R is an unknown. I don't think Kansas has the ability or desire to spend the needed assest to break it. They are being paid very well right now so there is almost no upside when you consider the cost to remove themselves from the B12 and away from K. St.

There is little upside financially for Mizzu, but it is peer institution with closer rivals. It would make sense in the way conferences did. They could be in the B1G West with Neb, Minn, Wis, Iowa, NU, Ill and Purdue.
 
ZooCougar said:
Nobody leaves the SEC. It's like the Hotel California, except you don't want to ever leave.
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Teams that have checked out of the SEC: Missisippi State, Vanderbilt
ACC: BC, Wake Forest
 
HuskyHawk said:
Never say never. Decision to add Mizzou was not overly popular in the SEC. I think it has more to do with B1G priorities than with Mizzou loving the SEC. Illinois already results in this:
On December 28, 2009, ​

Charter Communications​

and BTN reached an agreement to provide the network to Charter customers in St. Louis and Southern Illinois. Charter launched the BTN on its Expanded Basic-Digital level of service​

So Missouri adds little for for the BTN, less than Kansas does. Either would bring the KC market, and Kansas would bring Wichita and others, plus a more recognizable brand (in basketball). Springfield is split with Arkansas fans.​
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Columbia Mo. is 124 mi from St. Louis, which located in the Northeast corner or Missouri. A pretty easy argument can be made that the St. Louis media market is well within Big 10 country.

Missouri's other major media market (Kansas City) is another 125 miles further to the west than Columbia.
 
BTN is on almost everywhere. It is the difference is price that is charged for an area with a team vs the ROW(rest of world). Carriage fees are higher for DMA's with teams in them.

Missoui has more people than KS. More people = more money.

Why would you think the SEC would want Kansas? Good school, but only MBB for revenue and in a small state.
 
Tuxedo Yoda ‏@TuxedoYoda1h
Amazing how the state of CT gives ESPN massive tax breaks but ESPN continues to make moves that screw over that state's flagship university.
 
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Food for thought.

Columbia to Iowa City = 239 miles
Columbia to Champaign = 300 miles
Columbia to Lincoln = 321 miles
Columbia to Minn = 484 miles
Columbia to West Lafayette = 388 miles
Columbia to Chicago = 414 miles

That is a lot closer than SEC country. That equal better fan experience for alum and $avings in olympic sports.
 
Jimdish255 said:
Still waiting on the source... A source is a source of course of course...
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Let's hope it's or get off the pot time for UVA. Expect UConn and UVA to B1G announcement in about 20 minutes
 
jrazz12 said:
Let's hope it's or get off the pot time for UVA. Expect UConn and UVA to B1G announcement in about 20 minutes
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BTW tweet is from the guy we're not supposed to mention. MH---3. He must like getting ripped because they're killing him.
 
I'm just throwing it out there...We are talking about the Big 10, we see the University is taking steps to be more attractive to the Big 10, and everyone is talking about UConn being an option for the Big 10. Personally, I would obviously pick the Big 10 over any other conference every day and twice on Sunday, but does anyone know for certain if The Big10 has received it's 2nd completed application from an ACC school formerly of the Big East?"

If not, this is all just noise, and this thread, along with everything in it becomes moot.
 
Husky25 said:
I'm just throwing it out there...We are talking about the Big 10, we see the University is taking steps to be more attractive to the Big 10, and everyone is talking about UConn being an option for the Big 10. Personally, I would obviously pick the Big 10 over any other conference every day and twice on Sunday, but does anyone know for certain if The Big10 has received it's 2nd completed application from an ACC school formerly of the Big East?"

If not, this is all just noise, and this thread, along with everything in it becomes moot.
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UConn basketball in the B1G could prevent the ACC from cornering the market on bigtime bball.
 
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Marty Jackson said:
he already clarified... when he suggested that Uconn drop the football program, he meant that they should go independent and move all other sports to the C7.
Clearly you are one of those that mis-read his original post.
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Clearly. Sounds like one and the same to me....
 
GopherHawk said:
BTN is on almost everywhere. It is the difference is price that is charged for an area with a team vs the ROW(rest of world). Carriage fees are higher for DMA's with teams in them.

Missoui has more people than KS. More people = more money.

Why would you think the SEC would want Kansas? Good school, but only MBB for revenue and in a small state.
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What are you talking about with the SEC? Lawrence KS in the SEC? John Brown would roll over in his grave. Can't wait for the Bama and Ole Miss fans to visit the Free State Brewery on Massachusetts street. I'm talking about the B1G.

I think Kansas brings the KC market to the same level as Mizzou. I think Illinois brings St. Louis. The relevant distance is Champaigne to St. Louis. 150 miles as the crow flies. Not much further than Columbia. KU gets you the Wichita DMA pretty solidly. Mizzou brings Springfield, but with a strong Arkansas contingent. KU turns on basketball TVs nationwide (behind only UNC, Duke and Kentucky in that regard) while Missouri has no national following in any sport. The GOR aside, KU makes more sense to the B1G than Missouri. Brand names matter to Delany, it's why he went after Nebraska despite a very weak DMA. I thought delany would take Missouri...but he passed despite them begging. He has a reason.
 
Husky25 said:
Columbia Mo. is 124 mi from St. Louis, which located in the Northeast corner or Missouri. A pretty easy argument can be made that the St. Louis media market is well within Big 10 country.

Missouri's other major media market (Kansas City) is another 125 miles further to the west than Columbia.
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I know...was born in that DMA and resided there after law school. What is your point? Missouri wanted the B1G and pleaded to be added. The B1G said no, the SEC said yes. My point is that St. Louis is already a B1G media market by virtue of U Illinois being only 150 miles away. Plus Delany has Iowa to the north, which has some alumni in both KC and SL. You can take Missouri by surrounding it. You don't need the Tigers.
 
upstater said:
UConn basketball in the B1G could prevent the ACC from cornering the market on bigtime bball.
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But has UConn submitted an App? Is that the process? does the Big Ten contact the school in an RFP situation? How does that whole process work.

These are all hypotheticals. Does any one of them have any shot at actually happening as we currently stand?
 
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My sense is that the B1G is working through a scenario where they can get Virginia to agree to move but UNC holds strong to the ACC...the B1G then must decide to go forward with the Virginia addition while they can (with either UConn or Georgia Tech as the other school) or wait it out and hope that they can get UNC free in the future.

If they deem that UNC is holding tight in the ACC until they finally make a move to the SEC...then the debate is between UConn and GT. I am guessing that GT is currenlty in the lead...but UConn is gaining on them. Because if the B1G concludes that UNC is eventually SEC bound, then GT doesn't make a lot of sense as they would be an extreme outlier. So if the B1G's end game is 16 teams and UNC is not one of them, I think it is UConn and Virginia who eventually get a nod. But if the B1G has plans to eventually get to 18 or 20 teams, then I think Virginia and GT is the decision (as GT would not be an outlier with other southern schools in the fold in the future).
 
HuskyHawk said:
I know...was born in that DMA and resided there after law school. What is your point? Missouri wanted the B1G and pleaded to be added. The B1G said no, the SEC said yes. My point is that St. Louis is already a B1G media market by virtue of U Illinois being only 150 miles away. Plus Delany has Iowa to the north, which has some alumni in both KC and SL. You can take Missouri by surrounding it. You don't need the Tigers.
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Exactly right.
 
Husky25 said:
I'm just throwing it out there...We are talking about the Big 10, we see the University is taking steps to be more attractive to the Big 10, and everyone is talking about UConn being an option for the Big 10. Personally, I would obviously pick the Big 10 over any other conference every day and twice on Sunday, but does anyone know for certain if The Big10 has received it's 2nd completed application from an ACC school formerly of the Big East?"

If not, this is all just noise, and this thread, along with everything in it becomes moot.
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Okay to be fair... everyone on this board is talking about Uconn as a n option for the BIg 10. It is pretty quiet everywhere else outside a few random tweets from people who are getting grilled. I hope that this is the case since I live in Columbus, OH but we have to be realistic. Either Uconn admin has gone quiet to not let out the news or we have a lot of wishful fans who are reaching for the pinnacle of moves.

P.S. BC and Syracuse make little sense if they are trying to stay to large land grant universities.
 
ddminct said:
I know you are joking but the thing that amazes me is all the time Rutgers spent in the Big East they couldn't make just 1 NCAA appearance.
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Hey guys pipe down they MIGHT schedule us for a 3 for 1 in football IF WE ARE LUCKY, we should be honored for the exposure it will provide!
 
Limbo Land said:
Okay to be fair... everyone on this board is talking about Uconn as a n option for the BIg 10. It is pretty quiet everywhere else outside a few random tweets from people who are getting grilled. I hope that this is the case since I live in Columbus, OH but we have to be realistic. Either Uconn admin has gone quiet to not let out the news or we have a lot of wishful fans who are reaching for the pinnacle of moves.
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I take it you haven't waded into the "B1G" thread yet eh?
 
Limbo Land said:
Okay to be fair... everyone on this board is talking about Uconn as a n option for the BIg 10. It is pretty quiet everywhere else outside a few random tweets from people who are getting grilled. I hope that this is the case since I live in Columbus, OH but we have to be realistic. Either Uconn admin has gone quiet to not let out the news or we have a lot of wishful fans who are reaching for the pinnacle of moves.

P.S. BC and Syracuse make little sense if they are trying to stay to large land grant universities.
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You mean like all the chatter about Rutgers and Maryland prior to those schools being added?

UConn is worth more to the Big 10 than it is to the ACC. I don't think an ACC invitation is ever coming, but a Big 10 one is at least possible.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
You mean like all the chatter about Rutgers and Maryland prior to those schools being added?

UConn is worth more to the Big 10 than it is to the ACC. I don't think an ACC invitation is ever coming, but a Big 10 one is at least possible.
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Not if UConn shuts down the football program or goes independent as you desire.
 
Tuxedo Yoda‏@TuxedoYoda
Now that we know the Cuse is dirty, Texas should be awarded the title stolen from them in 2003 by those cheating bastards.
 
Husky25 said:
Not if UConn shuts down the football program or goes independent as you desire.
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I was trying to figure out what you desire other than trolling, and I came up empty. In scrolling through your prior posts, I can't find a single position you have taken on anything. That, by definition, makes you a troll.
 
HuskyHawk said:
More from the unamable one.


MH*er3 ‏@MH*er3
1h​



BTN confirms that FSU has been told "not interested"



MH*er3 ‏@MH*er3
1h​



@Martyaborg personally I think that if ACC schools are all off the table(they're not) then BYU and Uconn are the last 2 great brands left





Everything on Twitter, except from the Dude, suggests that the ACC is more or less holding together. FSU said no to B12 already, and B1G said no to FSU. UVA is still on the fence. UNC going nowhere. I don't think the ACC is breaking up. So that raises two questions: 1. does the B1G make any move, or stand pat for now? and 2. the Big 12 is now forced to expand without any ACC schools (they need 12 for Cotton Bowl tie in it seems). What do they do?
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We have seen a lot of rumors fly, some of which were later proven true. The rumors that Missouri was turned down by the B1G, must have been true. The rumors that WVU was turned down by ACC and SEC, were probably true also. Now we just heard the rumor that FSU was turned down by the B1G. Is this true? We do not know. What is interesting, however, is that we have yet to hear a rumor that says that UConn has applied and/or UConn was rebuffed by the B1G. We know we have shown interest in the ACC and B1G, and we know for a fact the ACC has rejected us at least once. But I don't recall any rumors of the B1G rejecting UConn. True or did I miss anything? ( No rumor is a good rumor, is where I am getting at).
 
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