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Kevin Ollie is still screwed

Grey Goose said:
Usually both attorneys are getting paid..If you know what I'm saying.. Kind of like synchronized swimming
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I thought someone said they took this on contingency; if that's not the case, then there's no mystery here.
 
Grey Goose said:
In my opinion..KO had a nice roster in 2014 that became a very efficient team throughout the Tournament.. I believe KO benefitted substantially from his bench coaches.. Bazz/Boat were coaches on the floor..KO stayed out of their way.. They executed magnificently to win the Title.. KO and Penny H seem to have a similar coaching strategy (NBA style)..Stay out of the players way and let them make plays.. In an X's and O's game.. College BB .. It doesn't always work..And BTW..Love KO's contributions to the University over the years
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They also got a couple of breaks. St Joes had the game won and mad3 a dumb foul and a 50% free throw shooter makes the foul shot. Then the Regionals are basically home games for UConn Plus it was the worst final four ever in terms of seeds. It was the perfect storm in a good way for us in that sense. It was a year where there were lots of upsets Jan early rounds and no dominant teams.
 
CL82 said:
I don’t think it was a stupid case to take at all. The potential damages were good in the idea that the Defendant might settle to avoid negative PR was it without basis. I do think Kevin‘s representation made multiple errors that move the case to a place where negotiated settlement was unlikely. But, in this particular instance, the fact that they are still representing Kevin doesn’t necessarily mean that they believe there is a lot of value in the case.

It may simply mean that they’ve decided it isn’t in their best interest to leave before arbitration is concluded in this high profile case. After making so many public statements, I suspect it would be an uncomfortable position for them to take.
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Totally mishandled the case from day 1 in my view. The best play Ollie had was driving public opinion into his corner by being reasonable and putting out settlement overtures publicly. The more UConn dug in the more he would have looked like the victim. His lawyers are classic litigation clowns that didn’t understand their opponent’s vulnerability. This is a state entity which means it’s a political animal. Bad press hurts more than losing dollars, because it’s not their money. He could have cashed out with $3 to $5 Million with a structured settlement by killing them with kindness in public, crying to the media about how much he loves the university and how he just wants a fair outcome. The minute they went to discrimination to raise the monetary exposure as a pressure tactic, they screwed themselves because they didn’t understand their opponent. Classic terrible one dimensional litigators in my view...if they do win on breach it will be by virtue of an incompetent arbitrator, but at the cost of his reputation.
 
freescooter said:
They also got a couple of breaks. St Joes had the game won and mad3 a dumb foul and a 50% free throw shooter makes the foul shot. Then the Regionals are basically home games for UConn Plus it was the worst final four ever in terms of seeds. It was the perfect storm in a good way for us in that sense. It was a year where there were lots of upsets Jan early rounds and no dominant teams.
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Just want to make sure of one thing based on your comments..We're still happy the Huskies won.. Right?? LOL
 
Grey Goose said:
Just want to make sure of one thing based on your comments..We're still happy the Huskies won.. Right?? LOL
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We are. It was a terrific run but we and Kentucky were the highest eyed finals ever iirc. As I recall we were a 7 and Kentucky an 8 or 9. And we got Florida in the semis, a team we just matched up perfectly with And had already beaten. The 1 seeds that year were had 2, 4 and 6 losses. The 4th #1 was a mid major. So hardly a dominant field.
 
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There was a time we thought that we would lose KO to the Lakers. How times have changed.
 
freescooter said:
We are. It was a terrific run but we and Kentucky were the highest eyed finals ever iirc. As I recall we were a 7 and Kentucky an 8 or 9. And we got Florida in the semis, a team we just matched up perfectly with And had already beaten. The 1 seeds that year were had 2, 4 and 6 losses. The 4th #1 was a mid major. So hardly a dominant field.
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But.. Like the Duke FF game.. No one gave us a chance.. Was sweet to close the deal..
 
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LStudfellow said:
The "scorched earth" policy KO has followed (at least partly due to the advice of his lawyers, but ultimately of his own doing) has done so much more damage to him than if he had just settled.

Yes, having to put your ego aside to make a deal you believe is unfair sucks. But now you see that the alternative can be so much worse. If he had just left and taken whatever deal was on the table, he would have been able to walk into an assistant's job in the NBA and been looking at a Head Coaching job in the not-too-distant future. Now? Maybe still possible (I've learned to almost never say never), but the chances are much less than before. Much less.

One of the saddest chapters to watch evolve during my 35 years as a UConn fan. Only the Tate George saga has made me close to this sad. And its not even over. I just wish someone could step in and tell him to cut bait, move on, and start to rehabilitate his image. At some point, it will matter...
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I live in Glastonbury where he lives (or lived, I'm not sure if he's still here). I didn't know him...he surely didn't know my name...but in maybe five or six interactions with/around him, he seemed like such a class act. Example one...his son worked at a supermarket and more than once, I'd see the kid out sweeping the parking lot. I don't know the backstory, but obviously in one form or another there was a work ethic and a respect for the dollar passed along because the kid didn't need to be out there making $10/hour or whatever.

Example two, another kid of his had an injured ankle/foot and missed the rest of the soccer season. Ollie STILL showed up for at least some of those games and cheered the team on as if his kid was on the field.

Went out of his way at least twice to walk by and tap my then 7 or 8 yo son on the head as he walked by...giving my son a thrill.

Just a shame...don't understand his approach to this.
 
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freescooter said:
We are. It was a terrific run but we and Kentucky were the highest eyed finals ever iirc. As I recall we were a 7 and Kentucky an 8 or 9. And we got Florida in the semis, a team we just matched up perfectly with And had already beaten. The 1 seeds that year were had 2, 4 and 6 losses. The 4th #1 was a mid major. So hardly a dominant field.
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Well let’s crap on Kembas run then too. People are so screwed up it’s hilarious. Hardly a run by any winner where luck doesn’t play a part ask Tyus Edney.
 
freescooter said:
We are. It was a terrific run but we and Kentucky were the highest eyed finals ever iirc. As I recall we were a 7 and Kentucky an 8 or 9. And we got Florida in the semis, a team we just matched up perfectly with And had already beaten. The 1 seeds that year were had 2, 4 and 6 losses. The 4th #1 was a mid major. So hardly a dominant field.
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Dumb, dumb, dumb. UConn gave Florida 2 of their 3 losses that season, they went undefeated in the SEC and were the #1 overall seed for the tournament. Ollie went through Martelli, Jay Wright, Hoiberg, Izzo, Donovan, and Calipari in that tournament.
 
LongtimeUC said:
I live in Glastonbury where he lives (or lived, I'm not sure if he's still here). I didn't know him...he surely didn't know my name...but in maybe five or six interactions with/around him, he seemed like such a class act. Example one...his son worked at a supermarket and more than once, I'd see the kid out sweeping the parking lot. I don't know the backstory, but obviously in one form or another there was a work ethic and a respect for the dollar passed along because the kid didn't need to be out there making $10/hour or whatever.

Example two, another kid of his had an injured ankle/foot and missed the rest of the soccer season. Ollie STILL showed up for at least some of those games and cheered the team on as if his kid was on the field.

Went out of his way at least twice to walk by and tap my then 7 or 8 yo son on the head as he walked by...giving my son a thrill.

Just a shame...don't understand his approach to this.
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Agree on all this. I think at his core he’s a really good guy. Was always super nice any time fans would interact with him. He came from a real tough upbringing, worked his butt off his whole career, then dropped the ball after the NC. Shame is the correct word. I rooted for him so hard. But he really blew it here. I don’t wish bad on him in any way, but it’s time to move on KO.
 
tcf15 said:
It’s real. From his Instagram story with a time stamp from around when this news broke.
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Wow.
 
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EricLA said:
Totally agree with @LStudfellow. It is incredibly sad. Scorched earth is right. He is also correct - never say never, but the chances of Ollie ever landing any type of job related to basketball is slim to none at this time.

I think Ollie probably knew that going in, or if he didn't he should have, but I think he felt that it was worth the risk... He probably thought if he could get several millions of $ out of the university (more than if he settled), it would have held him over financially till this became a distant memory and he was able to get a new job.

Instead, he's burnt every bridge related to UCONN, destroyed any goodwill from the fans, and created a scenario where his future prospects look bleak. Even worse now, the NCAA has rejected every argument he made which makes him look even worse, if that's possible.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him flipping burgers at McDonalds or something in the near future, unless he has enough savings to live off. And with all his legal fees, I doubt he has much savings left. I want to say I feel badly for the guy, but this is a mess of his own making.
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I don't think we'll see him flipping burgers, but maybe some appearances in Monaco Ford commercials.
 
LongtimeUC said:
I live in Glastonbury where he lives (or lived, I'm not sure if he's still here). I didn't know him...he surely didn't know my name...but in maybe five or six interactions with/around him, he seemed like such a class act. Example one...his son worked at a supermarket and more than once, I'd see the kid out sweeping the parking lot. I don't know the backstory, but obviously in one form or another there was a work ethic and a respect for the dollar passed along because the kid didn't need to be out there making $10/hour or whatever.

Example two, another kid of his had an injured ankle/foot and missed the rest of the soccer season. Ollie STILL showed up for at least some of those games and cheered the team on as if his kid was on the field.

Went out of his way at least twice to walk by and tap my then 7 or 8 yo son on the head as he walked by...giving my son a thrill.

Just a shame...don't understand his approach to this.
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He still lives in Glastonbury.
 
LStudfellow said:
The "scorched earth" policy KO has followed (at least partly due to the advice of his lawyers, but ultimately of his own doing) has done so much more damage to him than if he had just settled.

Yes, having to put your ego aside to make a deal you believe is unfair sucks. But now you see that the alternative can be so much worse. If he had just left and taken whatever deal was on the table, he would have been able to walk into an assistant's job in the NBA and been looking at a Head Coaching job in the not-too-distant future. Now? Maybe still possible (I've learned to almost never say never), but the chances are much less than before. Much less.

One of the saddest chapters to watch evolve during my 35 years as a UConn fan. Only the Tate George saga has made me close to this sad. And its not even over. I just wish someone could step in and tell him to cut bait, move on, and start to rehabilitate his image. At some point, it will matter...
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Eric Hayward's latter behavior was not good either.
 
tcf15 said:
It’s real. From his Instagram story with a time stamp from around when this news broke.
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Damn. He should have taken his own advice, kept his head up, and counted his blessings. I recently rewatched his introductory presser the other day. It’s astounding to me how inspirational that KO was and now how tone deaf this KO is. It really is like two entirely different people.
 
LongtimeUC said:
I live in Glastonbury where he lives (or lived, I'm not sure if he's still here). I didn't know him...he surely didn't know my name...but in maybe five or six interactions with/around him, he seemed like such a class act. Example one...his son worked at a supermarket and more than once, I'd see the kid out sweeping the parking lot. I don't know the backstory, but obviously in one form or another there was a work ethic and a respect for the dollar passed along because the kid didn't need to be out there making $10/hour or whatever.

Example two, another kid of his had an injured ankle/foot and missed the rest of the soccer season. Ollie STILL showed up for at least some of those games and cheered the team on as if his kid was on the field.

Went out of his way at least twice to walk by and tap my then 7 or 8 yo son on the head as he walked by...giving my son a thrill.

Just a shame...don't understand his approach to this.
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I miss that KO.
 
Calling it now. Kevin Ollie will be the head coach at Tulane in no more than 3 years. How many big name coaches had puttered away after big time violations only to resurface in the AAC? Tubby Smith, Frank Haith, Larry Brown, Kelvin Sampson etc. Add KO to that list. Plus, the seafood in NOLA is to die for.
 
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djct1999 said:
I miss that KO.
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It really is too bad. My only interaction with him was the fall of 1994 which I think was his senior year. I was working part time at Dick's Sporting Goods in Manchester as a cashier. Not a bad gig as I watched a lot of hoop when there were no customers. Both the men's and women's teams would come in. I was getting ready to ring up his order when some snafu occurred at the register with the head cashier who didn't have a clue who he was. He could have been a jerk about it but just waited patiently until the situation was resolved.
 
As much joy as it brought us, winning a National Championship in his 2nd season was probably the worst thing to happen to KO. We don’t need to get into the details, but seems he made a few really bad decisions soon afterwards and was never the same again. The guy we saw from 11-14 was awesome and made me so proud to be a Husky fan.
 
superjohn said:
Dumb, dumb, dumb. UConn gave Florida 2 of their 3 losses that season, they went undefeated in the SEC and were the #1 overall seed for the tournament. Ollie went through Martelli, Jay Wright, Hoiberg, Izzo, Donovan, and Calipari in that tournament.
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Yeah, there's a lot to knock KO for, but he absolutely deserves credit for that 2014 run.

His problem was when it came to bringing in his own recruits, he was terrible at identifying talented, tough, intelligent players and getting them to put in the work to improve their game.
 
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