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Kansas Facing Major Allegations

huskymedic said:
It won’t be...
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That's the second lack of institutional control for Kansas in the past 15 years. I am interested to see what the NCAA does (or doesn't do) with them. They've been a hot bed of cheating and have been for a decades and the NCAA hasn't seen fit to crackdown on them yet. You want to clean up college sports? Give Kansas the death penalty. It would get everyone's attention for sure... and it's well deserved.
 
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huskymedic said:
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With the football and basketball team cited it could be academic violations like UNC where they were kept academically eligible for years by taking sham courses with papers written by someone else and everyone receiving A’s. As long as their GPA’s stay high enough no penalty’s are triggered. NCAA rules.
 
Here's the money question, are Adidas/Gassnola boosters of Kansas? If not then payments by them aren't an NCAA violation. I think they are, but that would be the way out for KU.


  • Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university.​
  • Participated in or has been a member of an organization promoting the university’s athletics programs.​
  • Made financial contributions to the athletic department or to a university booster organization.​
  • Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes.​
  • Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.​
  • Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student athletes or their families.​
  • Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics.​
Once an individual is identified as a “representative of the institution’s athletics interests,” the person retains that identity forever.​

Based on the three in bold. I think they would be KU boosters.
 
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CL82 said:
Here's the money question, are Adidas/Gassnola boosters of Kansas? If not then payments by them aren't an NCAA violation. I think they are, but that would be the way out for KU.


  • Provided a donation in order to obtain season tickets for any sport at the university.​
  • Participated in or has been a member of an organization promoting the university’s athletics programs.​
  • Made financial contributions to the athletic department or to a university booster organization.​
  • Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes.​
  • Assisted or has been requested by university staff to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.​
  • Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student athletes or their families.​
  • Been involved otherwise in promoting university athletics.​
Once an individual is identified as a “representative of the institution’s athletics interests,” the person retains that identity forever.​

Based on the three in bold. I think they would be KU boosters.
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Kansas called him a booster in their NCAA appeal for De Sousa. Oops.

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One thing's for certain with this news - Tulsa is about to get the death penalty.
 
They wouldn’t charge someone of something if they didn’t have evidence for it and think they had a real case, right? A whistleblower called UNC out, NCAA did an “investigation” into the matter, and said they found nothing that could lead to a charge? Edit this is totally different

I’m just applying what I remember from The Wire lol
 
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kansashusky said:
Didn’t Calhoun get hit for lack of institutional control?
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Thought it was a failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance/failing to monitor the program charge.

I think schools get the institutional control charge more often than not.
 
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NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”
 
huskymedic said:
NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”
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Ballsy return serve.
 
huskymedic said:
NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”
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Sounds innocent to me! :rolleyes:
 
I am not holding my breath here; but, the NCAA could go after Kansas hard in this case. I was hoping of the same at UNC not because the NCAA wants to poke one of it's largest cash cows; but, because what happened there caught the attending of the university accreditation board (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools). A loss of accreditation could have killed the University itself, not just its basketball program. Unfortunately, they followed the NCAA's lead and punted on the issue, too.


The difference at Kansas is that the FBI is involved, which could lead to wider legal issues for Kansas and the NCAA as a whole and could also attract additional attention from Congress, which the NCAA has been trying to avoid for decades. I am not going to hold my breath...
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
I am not holding my breath here; but, the NCAA could go after Kansas hard in this case. I was hoping of the same at UNC not because the NCAA wants to poke one of it's largest cash cows; but, because what happened there caught the attending of the university accreditation board (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools). A loss of accreditation could have killed the University itself, not just its basketball program. Unfortunately, they followed the NCAA's lead and punted on the issue, too.


The difference at Kansas is that the FBI is involved, which could lead to wider legal issues for Kansas and the NCAA as a whole and could also attract additional attention from Congress, which the NCAA has been trying to avoid for decades. I am not going to hold my breath...
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I also won’t hold my breath but I think Kansas might not get the full teflon treatment UNC or Duke would have to get. One of those schools would need to take a ship on Emmert’s face at half court of a nationally televised game to get in any trouble.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
I hold my breath, waiting for UConn to be penalized in this case because of Lew Perkins.
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The only thing Lew would be penalized for is taking the whole basket of rolls at the buffet
 
tentoes4rings said:
I also won’t hold my breath but I think Kansas might not get the full teflon treatment UNC or Duke would have to get. One of those schools would need to take a ship on Emmert’s face at half court of a nationally televised game to get in any trouble.
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Or suing him for gross mismanagement....Head bang
 
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huskymedic said:
NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”
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Translation for those who don’t want to read the entire statement: “Agenda based fake news originated from The Boneyard to malign an innocent university in retaliation for justifiable NCAA treatment against Connecticut University otherwise known as Yukon”.
 
www.espn.com

KU charged with lack of institutional control, more

The NCAA has charged Kansas basketball with five Level I violations, among them a lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility violations on the part of Bill Self. The football program was also hit with two Level II violations.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Article from last night... ends like this


>>> David Ridpath, president of the Drake Group, a think tank dedicated to protecting academic integrity in college sports, and an associate professor of sports business at Ohio University, said it's too early to tell whether the NCAA can make a dent in cleaning up college basketball corruption.

"[The notice of allegations] is not surprising," Ridpath said. "But it's one thing to allege and another to know what's going to be the end game. I think we saw that in the North Carolina case [involving alleged academic misconduct]. I have my doubts that the membership really truly, truly wants to punish these schools and punish coaches like Bill Self. At the end of the day, whether he knew or didn't know, he should have known or did know. My guess is Bill Self probably knew a lot more than he's letting on.

"If we're going to have these rules, they need to be enforced. Until we see the end game, I don't know how worried Kansas should be about these allegations because it still has to go through the infractions process. The committee on infractions has shown in the past that it's very reticent to punish some schools. We'll have to wait and see. If they're doing their job, Kansas should be absolutely eviscerated." <<<
 
The NCAA will probably make them forfeit all post-season results, knowing that Kansas doesn’t win in March anyways.

They’ll let them keep their “coveted” regular season titles.
 
McLovin said:
www.espn.com

KU charged with lack of institutional control, more

The NCAA has charged Kansas basketball with five Level I violations, among them a lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility violations on the part of Bill Self. The football program was also hit with two Level II violations.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Article from last night... ends like this


>>> David Ridpath, president of the Drake Group, a think tank dedicated to protecting academic integrity in college sports, and an associate professor of sports business at Ohio University, said it's too early to tell whether the NCAA can make a dent in cleaning up college basketball corruption.

"[The notice of allegations] is not surprising," Ridpath said. "But it's one thing to allege and another to know what's going to be the end game. I think we saw that in the North Carolina case [involving alleged academic misconduct]. I have my doubts that the membership really truly, truly wants to punish these schools and punish coaches like Bill Self. At the end of the day, whether he knew or didn't know, he should have known or did know. My guess is Bill Self probably knew a lot more than he's letting on.

"If we're going to have these rules, they need to be enforced. Until we see the end game, I don't know how worried Kansas should be about these allegations because it still has to go through the infractions process. The committee on infractions has shown in the past that it's very reticent to punish some schools. We'll have to wait and see. If they're doing their job, Kansas should be absolutely eviscerated." <<<
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There won't be any congressional action on this. They postured a few years back, but that was never going to go beyond posturing. Too many universities in too many states. No way would it be accepted by the populations in those states for them to do the right thing.

Something might get done if the universities who were punished severely by the NCAA for lesser infractions were to sue the NCAA if they don't act on this current corruption. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me some schools could make a case for damages based on the inequity of treatment.
 
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