Jose Iglesias

[mauconnfan]

Just as an FYI in just 12 AB's almost 100 less than Jose, Zolio Almonte has as many HR's and 3 less RBI for the season, while hitting .583..................

All that in almost 40 less hits........hmmmmmmm

 

[60'sfan]

Just as an FYI in just 12 AB's almost 100 less than Jose, Zolio Almonte has as many HR's and 3 less RBI for the season, while hitting .583..................

All that in almost 40 less hits........hmmmmmmm

Zee, as they call him, is off to a good start but, based on his stats in the minors, he has below average power for an outfielder and is at best an average fielder. Could he be the next Shane Spencer? He is listed at 24 but he may be 29. If Jose can hit .250 he will be an asset with his defense.

Isn't it a shame that we are comparing two less than established players? Remember the days when we argued about Munson and Fisk.

 

[mauconnfan]

Zee, as they call him, is off to a good start but, based on his stats in the minors, he has below average power for an outfielder and is at best an average fielder. Could he be the next Shane Spencer? He is listed at 24 but he may be 29. If Jose can hit .250 he will be an asset with his defense.

Isn't it a shame that we are comparing two less than established players? Remember the days when we argued about Munson and Fisk.

Fisk couldn't hold Thurm's jock!! .......................lol...................yeah I do remember those...............

 

[60'sfan]

I doubt he'd want to.

 

[Palatine]

Breaking It Down Year By Year
YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
MUNSON 1972 140 511 54 143 7 46 .280 .344 .364
FISK 1972 131 457 74 134 22 61 .293 .370 .538

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Munson 1973 147 519 80 156 20 74 .301 .364 .487
Fisk 1973 135 508 65 125 26 71 .246 .310 .441

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Munson 1974 144 517 64 135 13 60 .261 .320 .381
Fisk 1974 52 187 36 56 11 26 .299 .385 .551

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Munson 1975 157 597 83 190 12 102 .318 .372 .429
Fisk 1975 79 263 47 87 10 52 .331 .397 .529

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Musnon 1976 152 616 79 186 17 105 .302 .343 .432
Fisk 1976 134 487 76 124 17 58 .255 .339 .415

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Munson 1977 149 595 85 183 18 100 .308 .352 .462
Fisk 1977 152 536 106 169 26 102 .315 .408 .521

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Munson 1978 154 617 73 183 6 71 .297 .337 .373
Fisk 1978 157 571 94 162 20 88 .284 .370 .475

YR G AB R H HR RBI AVG OBP SLG
Munson 1979 97 382 42 110 3 39 .288 .343 .374
Fisk 1979 91 320 49 87 10 42 .272 .307 .450
Comparing The Rivals: Stats for 5344 Total Lifetime AB
Thurman Munson AVG
.292 AB
5344 H
1558
< td> R
696 HR
113 RBI
701 OBP
.346 SLG
.410 OPS
.756
Carlton Fisk AVG
.280 AB
5344 H
1495 R
849 HR
219 RBI
785 OBP
.344 SLG
.476 OPS
.820

 

[Waquoit]

Getting back to my man Julio, look at these stats:

.415 AVG. 1 HR 10 RBI 23 R .459 OBP
.443 AVG. 8 HR 17 RBI 21 R .473 OBP

Besides a bit more pop (and not much more production) , why is one guy a "no-brainer" for the All Star Game while another isn't even mentioned?

 

[mauconnfan]

1 homer and 10 rbi? Not exactly scaring anyone.........................and how many times has he ever hit .415 or played in the majors?

Need to see a little more............by the way neither should be going. Papelbon is right for the 1st time in his life.......

 

[Waquoit]

I think Pap clinched it for Puig getting in.

 

[Jerry1714]

Dodogers are 18-11 since calling Puig up. All he has done is crushed the ball and revitalized fans interest in the Dodgers.

To keep him out of the All Star game is another example of baseball being held back by its past and traditions.

The all star game is not a life time achievement award, it should be the best players in the game, and right now Puig has showed he is one of them.

 

[mauconnfan]

Dodogers are 18-11 since calling Puig up. All he has done is crushed the ball and revitalized fans interest in the Dodgers.

To keep him out of the All Star game is another example of baseball being held back by its past and traditions.

The all star game is not a life time achievement award, it should be the best players in the game, and right now Puig has showed he is one of them.

I agree and he looks good but there has to be something said for those who have done it longer and with more consistency.......so every kid comes up and hits .4oo/8/17 in 29 games deserves to be an All Star?

Sorry can't keep out the .300/12/40 guy who has done if for 10 years already

 

[60'sfan]

I agree and he looks good but there has to be something said for those who have done it longer and with more consistency.......so every kid comes up and hits .4oo/8/17 in 29 games deserves to be an All Star?

Sorry can't keep out the .300/12/40 guy who has done if for 10 years already

I agree. Who knows? Puig could be another Bob Hurricane Hazle.

 

[Jerry1714]

I agree and he looks good but there has to be something said for those who have done it longer and with more consistency.......so every kid comes up and hits .4oo/8/17 in 29 games deserves to be an All Star?

Sorry can't keep out the .300/12/40 guy who has done if for 10 years already

He is batting .443, not .400, and no one else has put up those numbers through their first 30 games. But if someone does yes.

 

[mauconnfan]

He is batting .443, not .400, and no one else has put up those numbers through their first 30 games. But if someone does yes.

I don't care if he's batting .500 the point is it's not 82 games..........he may very well deserve it after 82 games but the all star game is coming too soon!!

Both guys are very good thus far but neither deserve an all start sniff..........just one mans humble opinion!

 

[60'sfan]

He is batting .443, not .400, and no one else has put up those numbers through their first 30 games. But if someone does yes.

Bob Hurricane Hazle came up to the Milwaukee Braves in 1957 and hit .403 in 41 games. He had an OPS of 1.126. He was on fire and no one could get him out. The Braves went on to beat the Yankees in seven games in the World Series. The following year he hit .211 and never saw the majors again.

 

[mauconnfan]

He hit a ton in spring training and probably should have been with the big club all year. He is not lucky, he has learned to be selective. Inglesias is not the reincarnation of Carew but he looks like a ML hitter to me. Just exactly who has he looked over matched against?He is hitting over .400 against ML pitchers and it is no longer a small sample. I think your eyes are failing you in your advanced age.

My eyes may have been failing me but they don;t give up a slick fielding, .300 hitting SS/INF for Jake Peavy unless they think I'm closer to correct than you!!

 

[dsturdy5]

When you have guys like Xander Bogarts in the wings, you can do this deal.

FWIW, Will Middlebrooks will be called up as well.

 

[mauconnfan]

When you have guys like Xander Bogarts in the wings, you can do this deal.

FWIW, Will Middlebrooks will be called up as well.

Inglesas was hitting .470 and you guys proclaimed him an All Star with great hands who will now hit well in the ML's.......now you have better!!! Let's see as time moves on,.........they're all projects until they prove otherwise........I though Middlebrooks was going to be solid, look at him. Let's see Bogarts do it...........he could be the next failure too! That's why you trade these guys for the Lee's! Not necessarily Peavy though???

 

[Deepster]

Inglesas was hitting .470 and you guys proclaimed him an All Star with great hands who will now hit well in the ML's.......now you have better!!!

Here comes the Fung Wah!!!!! BEEP BEEP!

 

[ddminct]

Here comes the Fung Wah!!!!! BEEP BEEP!

I know this is your thing but after you being right about Kazmir what does a genius like you think about this trade?

 

[Jerry1714]

Here comes the Fung Wah!!!!! BEEP BEEP!

Remember when you used that same stupid line to talk about how dumb the Sox were for getting rid of Youk and how great he was for the Yanks?

How does that brilliant analysis look now?

 

[Dogdeacon]

Fung Wah is out of business as is this tired line of thinking. How dare the Sox make a trade and give up on a prospect. Clearly fan angst forced the front office to make this deal. Alas. To all the Sox players I've loved before, they've traveled in and out that Green Monster Door*, We're now mad they came at all, we forget about last fall, don't let the door hit you on the ...

FWIW I don't like the trade, Peavy is too old and injury prone. It is interesting though in that we now get to compare Iglesias to Xander - hopefully both do well. Oh no wait, I forgot... hopefully Iglesias hits .199 because all Red Sox fans are ___

*sometimes to pee

 

[Deepster]

I know this is your thing but after you being right about Kazmir what does a genius like you think about this trade?

I think the Sox got a little desperate and I'm not a big fan of Peavy. He hasn't been healthy 3 of the last 4 years and pitching in late fall in the Northeast is a lot different than San Diego in August. I think Chicago sold high on him and got potentially got a very good SS out of it.

Additionally....

1) The Sox banked on Middlebrooks being ready and that hasn't worked out as planned.
2) The Sox kept Bradley up to start the season, lost some contract fluff and timing and that hasn't worked out as planned.
3) Here, they now hope Bogaerts will be MLB ready very soon on a contending team. We'll see how it turns out.

 

[Excalibur]

I saw Middlebrooks at Pawtucket on Sunday and he is still royally screwed up at the plate. Timing is way off. If they're counting on him to produce they're going to be disappointed.

 

[Deepster]

They didn't call up Middlebrooks to fill the spot.

 

[Waquoit]

I feel exactly the same as I felt about Pasqualoni a few years ago. He wasn't my guy yesterday but he is today. Unfortunately, things will probably turn out the same.