Joel Ntambwe (UNLV Transfer)

[firstnline]

Chief said when transferring, not if transferring. Sounds to me like we're getting more recruitssssssssss.

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

In fairness to Coach Hurley - we are being held to a higher APR standard - so you need to be careful that guys finish the semester in good standing when transferring.

I would hope anyone who is not good enough for UConn basketball and is considering transferring is taking their academic future very seriously, regardless.

 

[UCDaveD]

I don’t care about what some softies think is a “good look” or not. Get rid of the dead wood. Bring in talent. Win. That’s Hurley’s charge. Not to make sure poor little Jimmy doesn’t get his feelings hurt. That’s the loser’s approach. This is a business (well, maybe not for the players LOL!). The university has a lot on the line. Get the job done by any means necessary.

 

[imno1]

I don’t care about what some softies think is a “good look” or not. Get rid of the dead wood. Bring in talent. Win. That’s Hurley’s charge. Not to make sure poor little Jimmy doesn’t get his feelings hurt. That’s the loser’s approach. This is a business (well, maybe not for the players LOL!). The university has a lot on the line. Get the job done by any means necessary.

unless of course it's your son or daughter being shown the door

 

[superjohn]

I don’t care about what some softies think is a “good look” or not. Get rid of the dead wood. Bring in talent. Win. That’s Hurley’s charge. Not to make sure poor little Jimmy doesn’t get his feelings hurt. That’s the loser’s approach. This is a business (well, maybe not for the players LOL!). The university has a lot on the line. Get the job done by any means necessary.

People who b^tch about us not being good anymore are the same ones who aren't comfortable with having kids move on to lower levels of basketball instead of taking up roster spots. It makes zero sense.

 

[AfgHusky15]

I don’t care about what some softies think is a “good look” or not. Get rid of the dead wood. Bring in talent. Win. That’s Hurley’s charge. Not to make sure poor little Jimmy doesn’t get his feelings hurt. That’s the loser’s approach. This is a business (well, maybe not for the players LOL!). The university has a lot on the line. Get the job done by any means necessary.

These are kids you are talking about, not "dead wood"... The school and Hurley made a commitment to them to honor their scholarships. There is nothing that shows Hurley would ditch any of these kids for a quick fix.

If any of these kids would like to transfer because they think its best for their future then that is understandable, but it is wrong when a coach just forces a kid out simply because they aren't talented enough.

 

[superjohn]

These are kids you are talking about, not "dead wood"... The school and Hurley made a commitment to them to honor their scholarships. There is nothing that shows Hurley would ditch any of these kids for a quick fix.

If any of these kids would like to transfer because they think its best for their future then that is understandable, but it is wrong when a coach just forces a kid out simply because they aren't talented enough.

There is a commitment on a year to year basis, none of these are Hurley's recruits and he owes them nothing. Nothing Hurley wants to do is a quick fix, he's trying to build the program back up and by doing that you tell kids who aren't good enough or healthy enough to move somewhere better for them and bring in better talent to replace them.

Hurley's job is to win basketball games.

 

[Huskyforlife]

People who b^tch about us not being good anymore are the same ones who aren't comfortable with having kids move on to lower levels of basketball instead of taking up roster spots. It makes zero sense.

It's one thing to suggest they might not have a future here, and let the kids know decide what they want to do. Forcibly taking their scholarships is a dick move, there's no way around that.

 

[superjohn]

It's one thing to suggest they might not have a future here, and let the kids know decide what they want to do. Forcibly taking their scholarships is a dick move, there's no way around that.

You make it clear to them there is no role on the team for them. If a kid wants to never play basketball and hurt the team that's on the kid.

 

[BlueMAB]

none of these are Hurley's recruits.

Brendan Adams is

 

[tcf15]

There is a commitment on a year to year basis, none of these are Hurley's recruits and he owes them nothing. Nothing Hurley wants to do is a quick fix, he's trying to build the program back up and by doing that you tell kids who aren't good enough or healthy enough to move somewhere better for them and bring in better talent to replace them.

Hurley's job is to win basketball games.

Case in point: Kwintin Williams mysteriously disappearing from the team about a month into the season.

 

[Kenny11]

Case in point: Kwintin Williams mysteriously disappearing from the team about a month into the season.

He was "sick"!

 

[Scrutineer]

unless of course it's your son or daughter being shown the door

But, if your son didn't play much or play well as a freshman and then again as a sophomore, wouldn't you want them to go where they can be a meaningful part of a team? Where they can contribute and feel good about themselves rather than working hard at practice but not seeing the floor?

It might hurt to hear they'll probably see less time next year due to the new players coming in, but the kids know better than their parents when they're incapable of playing at a certain level so it's not like it would be a shock to them to be told in an end of season interview that "with the new players we have coming in your playing time will be, at best, even more limited than it has to date and we'll assist you in finding a school where you can play and excel."

The whole process does not need to be confrontational or destructive in any way.

 

[WhartonHusky]

But, if your son didn't play much or play well as a freshman and then again as a sophomore, wouldn't you want them to go where they can be a meaningful part of a team? Where they can contribute and feel good about themselves rather than working hard at practice but not seeing the floor?

It might hurt to hear they'll probably see less time next year due to the new players coming in, but the kids know better than their parents when they're incapable of playing at a certain level so it's not like it would be a shock to them to be told in an end of season interview that "with the new players we have coming in your playing time will be, at best, even more limited than it has to date and we'll assist you in finding a school where you can play and excel."

The whole process does not need to be confrontational or destructive in any way.

Totally agree. If the coach sits you don't and productively tells you that your style of play doesn't fit and that you will struggle to see the court for awhile, why is that so awful? Hurley is well connected in the coaching ranks and can, and likely would, go out of his way to help a kid with a soft landing.

I have no idea if this is the case with current players, but I assume this is fairly standard whenever there is a coaching change.

 

[UCDaveD]

Some people seem to live in fairy unicorn land where everyone is nice and nobody ever gets their feelings hurt. I prefer to see things for how they are. Just win, baby. Steamroll whoever you have to.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

The hardos in this thread are fantastic.

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

The hardos in this thread are fantastic.

The boneyard dot com is generally fantastic of late.

 

[Son of Robert]

It strikes me that a defining characteristic of Hurley's stamp on this program is one of respect. Respect for yourself, respect and support for your teammates, respect for the coaches and staff, and respect for the jersey, for the program. Brotherhood, family, fraternity, these all demand respect. It flows through a healthy team like a river.

This is what Hurley owes, and gives his players and staff. Respect begets respect. To say he owes them nothing, nothing!, shows a lack of recognition for one of the basic tenets of Hurley's leadership of the program. You are his player, he has your back. Conduct yourself in the manner that he expects, in the interests of the betterment of the program, your teammates and yourself. This is what his program looks like. These players we refer to have been doing this for two years now, one year with his coaching, and these players deserve, and have earned his respect.

High character players are going to want to play here. Their parents are going to feel good about them coming here, and one reason for this is that Hurley's program will help them grow as players, and as men in a program which fosters respect, and holding one's self to a higher standard.

Hurley leads by example.

 

[superjohn]

It strikes me that a defining characteristic of Hurley's stamp on this program is one of respect. Respect for yourself, respect and support for your teammates, respect for the coaches and staff, and respect for the jersey, for the program. Brotherhood, family, fraternity, these all demand respect. It flows through a healthy team like a river.

This is what Hurley owes, and gives his players and staff. Respect begets respect. To say he owes them nothing, nothing!, shows a lack of recognition for one of the basic tenets of Hurley's leadership of the program. You are his player, he has your back. Conduct yourself in the manner that he expects, in the interests of the betterment of the program, your teammates and yourself. This is what his program looks like. These players we refer to have been doing this for two years now, one year with his coaching, and these players deserve, and have earned his respect.

High character players are going to want to play here. Their parents are going to feel good about them coming here, and one reason for this is that Hurley's program will help them grow as players, and as men in a program which fosters respect, and holding one's self to a higher standard.

Hurley leads by example.

If you can't play at this level, you can't play at this level. It benefits both UConn and the kids to find a better fit.

 

[Bonehead]

But, if your son didn't play much or play well as a freshman and then again as a sophomore, wouldn't you want them to go where they can be a meaningful part of a team? Where they can contribute and feel good about themselves rather than working hard at practice but not seeing the floor?

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There would never be bench warmers!!! Your son going to another program will in turn make someone else's son have less playing time in that program. That other son will transfer to another program and then someone else's son...

 

[Towney007]

But, if your son didn't play much or play well as a freshman and then again as a sophomore, wouldn't you want them to go where they can be a meaningful part of a team? Where they can contribute and feel good about themselves rather than working hard at practice but not seeing the floor?

It might hurt to hear they'll probably see less time next year due to the new players coming in, but the kids know better than their parents when they're incapable of playing at a certain level so it's not like it would be a shock to them to be told in an end of season interview that "with the new players we have coming in your playing time will be, at best, even more limited than it has to date and we'll assist you in finding a school where you can play and excel."

The whole process does not need to be confrontational or destructive in any way.

This is basically the conversion you have with these kids and 90% of them get it. And reality is - there’s maybe 2/3 guys you’ll have that conversation with assuming you have to to begin with.

But you need to be careful about how you go about it. These kids are always wary of people trying to snack on them. Everyone’s your best friend when you’re winning and when you’re not they want to throw you in the trash. For some of these kids and teams, it’s a bad message to send that they better look fantastic in a year or two or Coach is gonna run me outta town... Pretty awful way to treat people, never mind kids. And really hard to get buy into any kind of creed of love, brotherhood, culture, etc. While it’d be great that they just get it, most wont.

“That guy doesn’t care about you, he just cares about himself and winning” is a fast way to getting no one ever.

 

[mauconnfan]

Does Dan Hurley care about Joel Ntambwe?

 

[intlzncster]

Don't think Hurley's kicking anyone to the curb, if they are working hard on and off the court. He'll simply tell them, "look, you're not gonna play, and this is why". If the kid wants to stay anyway, that's the way it goes.

 

[NJHoops]

Some of y’all are not even arguing the same point. You can meet with the player, tell them it’s unlikely they get real minutes, and then what? If the guy decides he wants to stay and fight for minutes... what do you do? Some of you are comfortable kicking off a guy like that? One who is a good teammate, competes, pulls his weight academically? It’s not the player’s fault someone messed up his recruitment. Building a program takes some time, and you can do some damage with what looks like a quick fix. That being said, this is all a philosophical discussion because next year’s roster isn’t set yet.

 

[bazz&boujee]

i think the guys who hurley might suggest to look elsewhere because they might not play.... know that if they stay, they will play. for no reason other than lack of options.