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Carey is no PG and even Boeheim isn't dumb enough to play him there for major minutes. Carey needs to wake up and watch his own videos.
We got the guard we wanted and I'm not disappointed about Carey committing to Cuse if that is where lands. We'll find a shooter.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Are you saying members of The Boneyard are kids?

It will come down to how Jalen (and maybe his dad) wants to be utilized. UConn, as stated by dad's tweet, is recruiting Jalen as a combo guard. He would get lot's of playing time in that role. Akinjo does not change this . If he wants to be the teams pg, whether or not he's suited for this position, Syracuse affords him the best opportunity.

I'm happy the staff has a vision and are clear with their vision. If Jalen disagrees, that doesn't make him a bad kid. It's his life and he has to determine how to handle it.
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The way some of yall stalk on social media, i hope theyre kids! Definitely bunches of uconn students on here. That constitutes kids to me
 
husky429 said:
The way some of yall stalk on social media, i hope theyre kids! Definitely bunches of uconn students on here. That constitutes kids to me
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It was a tongue in cheek statement meant to laugh at ourselves.
 
UConn's guard package for 2018 (assuming Jalen goes to NBA) is 2 true PGs (RS Soph and true Fr) and a true Jr. combo/SG in Vital. Fans have to accept that Akinjo and Gilbert at PG are going to be a detriment to recruiting another high level true PG until 2019/2020. Ollie is pounding sand in trying to convince Carey or any other 4*player who sees himself as a pure PG to commit to UConn for 2018. Lets face it, at 6'2" Carey needs to get as much experience as a true PG to chase NBA dreams as there are not many 6'2" SGs in the NBA. Ollie and staff probably knew this when they brought in Carey before Akinjo as they were hoping for a Carey commit.

We experienced the major injury to AG and nagging injuries to Jalen and want as much depth as possible, but a high level PG recruit is not going to gamble on playing time. The playing time is at SG and it should be the focus of the staff along with another big guy. UConn needs a 6'4+ SG who can play some defense against bigger guards and hit the kick out 3. If he has a decent handle that is a bonus, but he can't have a vision of being a PG. Matthews fills that role, but did UConn get in too late. The OV to WV concerns me and obviously concerns the staff as they started chasing Nunez from Thomas More. However, the Matthews/Nunez type player is what is needed.
 
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UConnRock said:
UConn's guard package for 2018 (assuming Jalen goes to NBA) is 2 true PGs (RS Soph and true Fr) and a true Jr. combo/SG in Vital. Fans have to accept that Akinjo and Gilbert at PG are going to be a detriment to recruiting another high level true PG until 2019/2020. Ollie is pounding sand in trying to convince Carey or any other 4*player who sees himself as a pure PG to commit to UConn for 2018. Lets face it, at 6'2" Carey needs to get as much experience as a true PG to chase NBA dreams as there are not many 6'2" SGs in the NBA. Ollie and staff probably knew this when they brought in Carey before Akinjo as they were hoping for a Carey commit.

We experienced the major injury to AG and nagging injuries to Jalen and want as much depth as possible, but a high level PG recruit is not going to gamble on playing time. The playing time is at SG and it should be the focus of the staff along with another big guy. UConn needs a 6'4+ SG who can play some defense against bigger guards and hit the kick out 3. If he has a decent handle that is a bonus, but he can't have a vision of being a PG. Matthews fills that role, but did UConn get in too late. The OV to WV concerns me and obviously concerns the staff as they started chasing Nunez from Thomas More. However, the Matthews/Nunez type player is what is needed.
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Agree with all of this, poop emoji. There aren't going to be a lot of minutes available at lead guard in 18-19. I'm sure if Carey came here they would let me occasionally run the offense, but his main role would be playing off ball. I'd love him here in that role. But if he doesn't see himself there, then so be it.

Really agree that we need an off-ball guard with some length in the situation that both Carey and Nembhard decide it's not for them. One guy I'd love to see us go in for is Keyontae Johnson. I think we offered him but I don't know if there's been any more traction beyond that. He's 6'5" and listed as a small forward by a lot of places, but he's an above average shooter and a exceptionally versatile defender. Not too sure about his handle, but at 6'5", he'd need a guard's dribbling skills to have a prayer of playing at the next level.
 
I respectfully disagree, guys like Carey and Nembhard can score and I don't think we'd be lacking for offense playing them alongside Akinjo or Gilbert. (or all three together in a small lineup). Would love to reel in Matthews but would like Nembhard or Carey even more.
 
UConNick said:
Really agree that we need an off-ball guard with some length in the situation that both Carey and Nembhard decide it's not for them. One guy I'd love to see us go in for is Keyontae Johnson. I think we offered him but I don't know if there's been any more traction beyond that. He's 6'5" and listed as a small forward by a lot of places, but he's an above average shooter and a exceptionally versatile defender. Not too sure about his handle, but at 6'5", he'd need a guard's dribbling skills to have a prayer of playing at the next level.
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Johnson shot 28.6% from 3 and 72% FT for Boo Williams. He's not a shooter. Great defender and rebounder for his position though.

I definitely see him as more of a 3, as he's got a big frame and his handle isn't great for a 2. But he shoots an insanely high percentage inside the arc and stealing him away from PC, SMU, and Wichita St would be nice.
 
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pj said:
I respectfully disagree, guys like Carey and Nembhard can score and I don't think we'd be lacking for offense playing them alongside Akinjo or Gilbert. (or all three together in a small lineup). Would love to reel in Matthews but would like Nembhard or Carey even more.
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It is not a matter of Uconn lacking in offense with Carey or Nembhard alongside Akinjo or Gilbert. It is the fact that Carey and Nembhard seemingly have no interest in playing a combo/SG role.
 
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gtcam said:
If he doesn't really want to be here then it wasn't meant to be and if that's the case, I don't want him here.
We had a few of those guys as freshmen last year
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Not too interested in players who already envision themselves early in the NBA at a position they are not particularly suited for.
Too much "I want I want I want I want" doesn't blend well with a team of huskies.
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UConnRock said:
It is not a matter of Uconn lacking in offense with Carey or Nembhard alongside Akinjo or Gilbert. It is the fact that Carey and Nembhard seemingly have no interest in playing a combo/SG role.
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They have to be interested in "positionless basketball." If they truly want to be "the" point guard, then I agree we will lose them. But if they want to be the best basketball players they can be and make the NBA, why pigeonhole yourself into a role? Playing with and practicing against elite players is itself preparation for the NBA. That's why Duke and Kentucky are so attractive. It shouldn't scare Carey and Nembhard that they have competition at UConn.
 
Fishy said:
And the pack has turned on Jalen Carey.

Free advice - don't do that. You don't know what you're talking about and you look stupid.
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I haven't turned on him yet. But I'm ready to as soon as he next us hahaha
 
I havent turned on him yet, and wont regardless of his decision!! All i'm saying is yea we have more competition at Uconn, but thats a good thing. You want to play against better talent to become better. You want to be challenged so you can be the best player that you can be. Yea he'll have an easier path at Cuse,but will he get better? Will he be challeneged and grow? Will he even have a good team? Being on a good team does more for your NBA stock than being on a team that cant make the tournament. I could see use being one of the best teams in the country with Jalen, and AG being the main pieces in the backcourt. I just hope he can see that too.
 
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It isn't incredibly difficult to see why Nembhard and Carey are now cooling, but I was hoping to get 2 of the 3. Maybe Ollie can talk to Carey and help him understand that Akinjo's commitment isn't a detriment to him or PT.
 
This last pitch to Carey is HUGE. We need him to be the impact player in this class. I hope KO gives him the absolute full court press and lock this one up
 
I think all of this pure PG stuff and off-ball stuff is not applicable here. I wouldn't go so far to say it's positionless basketball, but I'd break it down more like this, ball-handlers/creators, wings, and bigs. Carey is a ball handler/creator with the ability to also play wing. The way the offense works, to me, would be sometimes AG would initiate the offense. Sometimes it will be Akinjo. Sometimes it would be Carey. I think, esp with KW in the mix, all of these guys will be able to show off/work on their pick and roll game. This HAS to be thought about since NBA is a lot of pick and roll. I would think a role like this would be very enticing for Carey. He'd be able to show off both guard qualities he has and wants to work on. Not just pigeon hole himself as a more traditional PG.
 
kansashusky said:
He is not a wing, and will play point guard in the NBA. Writing is on the wall here.

We took the first available which I am okay with, too many times in the past we have waited on guys and whiffed. We cannot do that anymore.
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He would be playing some wing for us...just because KO's offense would dictate it. He'd be able to showcase his spot up shot making instead of just driving and dishing.
 
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KembaStepback said:
He would be playing some wing for us...just because KO's offense would dictate it. He'd be able to showcase his spot up shot making instead of just driving and dishing.
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I dont get what is so hard about this. Bazz and Boat will be Akinjo and Carey. Did that mean people expected Boat to be a wing in the pros? Of course not, everyone knew they were both point guards.
 
kansashusky said:
He is not a wing, and will play point guard in the NBA. Writing is on the wall here.

We took the first available which I am okay with, too many times in the past we have waited on guys and whiffed. We cannot do that anymore.
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He's not a point guard, so he won't be playing point guard in the NBA.
 
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I may be paranoid/jaded after this offseason of transfers, but I have an uneasy feeling about KO convincing him to step into our system. If the concern about development/PT is already in his head, I'm sure we can suppress it, but doubt we can completely eradicate it.

Given how quick these kids are to pull the transfer trigger, and how little writing may be on the wall (e.g., Vance Jackson transferring out of the blue, after significant PT and development during his freshman year), I just don't know if its for the best to convince someone to come here if they're openly having doubts. In contrast, a guy like Akinjo gives me no concern because he exudes a desire to be at UConn.

I still want the kid, but hoping it's because he wants to buy into the system (rather than because he is willing to give it a shot)
 
dennismenace said:
Not too interested in players who already envision themselves early in the NBA at a position they are not particularly suited for.
Too much "I want I want I want I want" doesn't blend well with a team of huskies.
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It is not necessarily "I want, I want", it is coaches like Boehiem telling him he can run the team and be in the NBA in 2 years. That sways a 17 year old and sometimes his parents. This is not "turning on" Jalen Carey at all. It is just trying to see through the eyes of a 17 year old with NBA aspirations. Hopefully Ollie can sell him on the incredible value to learning to play and practice against a tough man-to-man defense. That is a huge part of what will keep a 6'2" guard in the NBA.
 
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