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I guess all I really got is them waiting so long to offer.*shrugs*, hey if someone has proof saying as such I'd like to see it.
I guess all I really got is them waiting so long to offer.*shrugs*, hey if someone has proof saying as such I'd like to see it.
Unless the coach pulls the offer, I believe it stands as long as there is an open spot.
Take a look at the thread. "Twitter exchange with Corey Evans". I believe a lot has to do with the school, (accepting) a commit & timeframes. There's been talk that Mack/Clarke are tethered in their decision, yet only school on both lists is UConn.Can I have an example of these prioritized/conditional offers? I can't find anything on google. A coach may want one PG for his recruiting class and say to potential PG recruits the first to says 'yes' get's the scholarship. Sure that happens but telling a kid you can only accept this scholarship if (fill in the blank) doesn't is something much different.
The timing of the scholarship can be an indication of the coaches priority (not always) but once it's officially offered I find it hard to believe there any conditions attached. I could be wrong but just need evidence to prove me wrong. It's always been my understanding it's simply the first to say yes.
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That's not how the process works at all. I'm not going to do your research for you, but you can inform yourself if you want. But no, it is not the case that all 20 open offers (or whatever the # is) can be accepted at any time as soon as they're made.
Take a look at the thread. "Twitter exchange with Corey Evans". I believe a lot has to do with the school, (accepting) a commit & timeframes. There's been talk that Mack/Clarke are tethered in their decision, yet only school on both lists is UConn.
Ok you guys need to understand something. NO ONE is saying St. John's is as good as UConn. Not in the past, not in the current. Not ever. So stop with the St. John's vs. UConn thing. I'm talking strictly about UConn. Only an idiot would actually say SJ can hold a candle to UConn hoops in terms of success. Not many teams can even argue they are more successful. I have no problem admitting the truth.
But now that I established that, you need to understand that UConn is not just UConn. There are two UConn's. UConn(A) is the old Big East version of UConn with a HOF coach in Calhoun and all of those championships come from this era or from something Calhoun touched. This was while you were in the best hoops conference on earth. Yes you won the first year in the AAC. But Calhoun still had his fingerprints on the team because he recruited them. You honestly don't think that helped at all? You really think Kevin Ollie is so amazing in his own right and owes nothing to Calhoun setting him up beautifully? Right now UConn is not UConn(A)…it's UConn(B). UConn(B) is the AAC UConn playing Tulane, ECU, Tulsa, Houston, SMU (irrelevant 99% of the time Brown is not there), etc. UConn(A) and UConn(B) are not the same. A was a legacy in the best conference ever with a HOF coach. B guarantees NOTHING. No one cares you won 4 championships in the future. My point is that none of the football conferences want UConn. You guys are betting against the odds by putting football first. There is a VERY good chance UConn ends up in the AAC and the UConn(A) era fades off. Then the recruiting slows, the conference affiliation starts to hurt, and Ollie has to do things on his own without Calhoun's fingerprints. Is there a chance UConn ends up in a football conference? Yes, albeit a small one. The football program there is absolutely atrocious and no one wants to touch it. You put football first and now you are already paying dearly for it getting the punishment called the AAC which you may be in for the next 20 years. If you don't think being in the AAC for a long time won't change the perception of UConn hoops eventually, then you are in denial.
So when I argue I am talking about UConn(B) aka the AAC UConn. Not the one with old Big East and Calhoun fingerprints (including the one from last year). UConn(A) was great but it's over. End of an era. Ollie got the keys to a Ferrari and now you think it's all his doing that you won a championship. There's a difference between turning a Civic into a Ferrari and inheriting a Ferrari. All I'm saying is that the future does not care about your 4 rings. The future looks bleak for UConn staying in the AAC. So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships, because once the UConn(A) aura wears off (which it will), you may not see another for an entire lifetime if ever again. You are essentially the same as Patriots fans who think they will keep winning SB's when Tom Brady is gone. Once Brady is gone the Patriots turn human again. And once the old Big East/Calhoun influenced UConn era wears off, so will UConn hoops. UConn is now in a transition from best conference ever to a legitimate mid major conference. Yet you act like you are joining the ACC tomorrow. If UConn does not get that invite (and it's likely they won't), UConn will slowly fade into the abyss.
The Roman Empire fell, the Yankees dynasty is over, and UConn's dynasty can easily end too in the AAC. Part of the reason empires fall is due to a lack of foresight and the belief that you will always be on top no matter what. UConn is demonstrating that right now. You made a stupid decision to prioritize football and the empire may now collapse if you don't get the invite.
Ok you guys need to understand something. NO ONE is saying St. John's is as good as UConn. Not in the past, not in the current. Not ever. So stop with the St. John's vs. UConn thing. I'm talking strictly about UConn. Only an idiot would actually say SJ can hold a candle to UConn hoops in terms of success. Not many teams can even argue they are more successful. I have no problem admitting the truth.
But now that I established that, you need to understand that UConn is not just UConn. There are two UConn's. UConn(A) is the old Big East version of UConn with a HOF coach in Calhoun and all of those championships come from this era or from something Calhoun touched. This was while you were in the best hoops conference on earth. Yes you won the first year in the AAC. But Calhoun still had his fingerprints on the team because he recruited them. You honestly don't think that helped at all? You really think Kevin Ollie is so amazing in his own right and owes nothing to Calhoun setting him up beautifully? Right now UConn is not UConn(A)…it's UConn(B). UConn(B) is the AAC UConn playing Tulane, ECU, Tulsa, Houston, SMU (irrelevant 99% of the time Brown is not there), etc. UConn(A) and UConn(B) are not the same. A was a legacy in the best conference ever with a HOF coach. B guarantees NOTHING. No one cares you won 4 championships in the future. My point is that none of the football conferences want UConn. You guys are betting against the odds by putting football first. There is a VERY good chance UConn ends up in the AAC and the UConn(A) era fades off. Then the recruiting slows, the conference affiliation starts to hurt, and Ollie has to do things on his own without Calhoun's fingerprints. Is there a chance UConn ends up in a football conference? Yes, albeit a small one. The football program there is absolutely atrocious and no one wants to touch it. You put football first and now you are already paying dearly for it getting the punishment called the AAC which you may be in for the next 20 years. If you don't think being in the AAC for a long time won't change the perception of UConn hoops eventually, then you are in denial.
So when I argue I am talking about UConn(B) aka the AAC UConn. Not the one with old Big East and Calhoun fingerprints (including the one from last year). UConn(A) was great but it's over. End of an era. Ollie got the keys to a Ferrari and now you think it's all his doing that you won a championship. There's a difference between turning a Civic into a Ferrari and inheriting a Ferrari. All I'm saying is that the future does not care about your 4 rings. The future looks bleak for UConn staying in the AAC. So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships, because once the UConn(A) aura wears off (which it will), you may not see another for an entire lifetime if ever again. You are essentially the same as Patriots fans who think they will keep winning SB's when Tom Brady is gone. Once Brady is gone the Patriots turn human again. And once the old Big East/Calhoun influenced UConn era wears off, so will UConn hoops. UConn is now in a transition from best conference ever to a legitimate mid major conference. Yet you act like you are joining the ACC tomorrow. If UConn does not get that invite (and it's likely they won't), UConn will slowly fade into the abyss.
The Roman Empire fell, the Yankees dynasty is over, and UConn's dynasty can easily end too in the AAC. Part of the reason empires fall is due to a lack of foresight and the belief that you will always be on top no matter what. UConn is demonstrating that right now. You made a stupid decision to prioritize football and the empire may now collapse if you don't get the invite.
Johnny said:So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships.
Ok you guys need to understand something. NO ONE is saying St. John's is as good as UConn. Not in the past, not in the current. Not ever. So stop with the St. John's vs. UConn thing. I'm talking strictly about UConn. Only an idiot would actually say SJ can hold a candle to UConn hoops in terms of success. Not many teams can even argue they are more successful. I have no problem admitting the truth.
But now that I established that, you need to understand that UConn is not just UConn. There are two UConn's. UConn(A) is the old Big East version of UConn with a HOF coach in Calhoun and all of those championships come from this era or from something Calhoun touched. This was while you were in the best hoops conference on earth. Yes you won the first year in the AAC. But Calhoun still had his fingerprints on the team because he recruited them. You honestly don't think that helped at all? You really think Kevin Ollie is so amazing in his own right and owes nothing to Calhoun setting him up beautifully? Right now UConn is not UConn(A)…it's UConn(B). UConn(B) is the AAC UConn playing Tulane, ECU, Tulsa, Houston, SMU (irrelevant 99% of the time Brown is not there), etc. UConn(A) and UConn(B) are not the same. A was a legacy in the best conference ever with a HOF coach. B guarantees NOTHING. No one cares you won 4 championships in the future. My point is that none of the football conferences want UConn. You guys are betting against the odds by putting football first. There is a VERY good chance UConn ends up in the AAC and the UConn(A) era fades off. Then the recruiting slows, the conference affiliation starts to hurt, and Ollie has to do things on his own without Calhoun's fingerprints. Is there a chance UConn ends up in a football conference? Yes, albeit a small one. The football program there is absolutely atrocious and no one wants to touch it. You put football first and now you are already paying dearly for it getting the punishment called the AAC which you may be in for the next 20 years. If you don't think being in the AAC for a long time won't change the perception of UConn hoops eventually, then you are in denial.
So when I argue I am talking about UConn(B) aka the AAC UConn. Not the one with old Big East and Calhoun fingerprints (including the one from last year). UConn(A) was great but it's over. End of an era. Ollie got the keys to a Ferrari and now you think it's all his doing that you won a championship. There's a difference between turning a Civic into a Ferrari and inheriting a Ferrari. All I'm saying is that the future does not care about your 4 rings. The future looks bleak for UConn staying in the AAC. So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships, because once the UConn(A) aura wears off (which it will), you may not see another for an entire lifetime if ever again. You are essentially the same as Patriots fans who think they will keep winning SB's when Tom Brady is gone. Once Brady is gone the Patriots turn human again. And once the old Big East/Calhoun influenced UConn era wears off, so will UConn hoops. UConn is now in a transition from best conference ever to a legitimate mid major conference. Yet you act like you are joining the ACC tomorrow. If UConn does not get that invite (and it's likely they won't), UConn will slowly fade into the abyss.
The Roman Empire fell, the Yankees dynasty is over, and UConn's dynasty can easily end too in the AAC. Part of the reason empires fall is due to a lack of foresight and the belief that you will always be on top no matter what. UConn is demonstrating that right now. You made a stupid decision to prioritize football and the empire may now collapse if you don't get the invite.
There are certain cases where an offer is reported when there really isn't one. This could be just from a recruit, parent, or coach misunderstanding the entire situation. And then it's amplified by Twitter. So, for instance, say a college coach expresses their interest in a prospect. The prospect misinterprets that interest as an offer and goes to twitter to say "just offered by _______ #blessed". So there is a lot of misinformation out there.So if a coach offers a player a scholarship some can't accept it? Help me do the research please. I can't find anything to support this. Enlighten me with your vast recruiting knowledge. Give me an example of this happening to a specific player.
UConn made a bet back in the late 1990s, when they decided to upgrade: schools with football with monopolize all the NCAA money over time. In order to try to deal with that future, they upgraded.Ok you guys need to understand something. NO ONE is saying St. John's is as good as UConn. Not in the past, not in the current. Not ever. So stop with the St. John's vs. UConn thing. I'm talking strictly about UConn. Only an idiot would actually say SJ can hold a candle to UConn hoops in terms of success. Not many teams can even argue they are more successful. I have no problem admitting the truth.
But now that I established that, you need to understand that UConn is not just UConn. There are two UConn's. UConn(A) is the old Big East version of UConn with a HOF coach in Calhoun and all of those championships come from this era or from something Calhoun touched. This was while you were in the best hoops conference on earth. Yes you won the first year in the AAC. But Calhoun still had his fingerprints on the team because he recruited them. You honestly don't think that helped at all? You really think Kevin Ollie is so amazing in his own right and owes nothing to Calhoun setting him up beautifully? Right now UConn is not UConn(A)…it's UConn(B). UConn(B) is the AAC UConn playing Tulane, ECU, Tulsa, Houston, SMU (irrelevant 99% of the time Brown is not there), etc. UConn(A) and UConn(B) are not the same. A was a legacy in the best conference ever with a HOF coach. B guarantees NOTHING. No one cares you won 4 championships in the future. My point is that none of the football conferences want UConn. You guys are betting against the odds by putting football first. There is a VERY good chance UConn ends up in the AAC and the UConn(A) era fades off. Then the recruiting slows, the conference affiliation starts to hurt, and Ollie has to do things on his own without Calhoun's fingerprints. Is there a chance UConn ends up in a football conference? Yes, albeit a small one. The football program there is absolutely atrocious and no one wants to touch it. You put football first and now you are already paying dearly for it getting the punishment called the AAC which you may be in for the next 20 years. If you don't think being in the AAC for a long time won't change the perception of UConn hoops eventually, then you are in denial.
So when I argue I am talking about UConn(B) aka the AAC UConn. Not the one with old Big East and Calhoun fingerprints (including the one from last year). UConn(A) was great but it's over. End of an era. Ollie got the keys to a Ferrari and now you think it's all his doing that you won a championship. There's a difference between turning a Civic into a Ferrari and inheriting a Ferrari. All I'm saying is that the future does not care about your 4 rings. The future looks bleak for UConn staying in the AAC. So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships, because once the UConn(A) aura wears off (which it will), you may not see another for an entire lifetime if ever again. You are essentially the same as Patriots fans who think they will keep winning SB's when Tom Brady is gone. Once Brady is gone the Patriots turn human again. And once the old Big East/Calhoun influenced UConn era wears off, so will UConn hoops. UConn is now in a transition from best conference ever to a legitimate mid major conference. Yet you act like you are joining the ACC tomorrow. If UConn does not get that invite (and it's likely they won't), UConn will slowly fade into the abyss.
The Roman Empire fell, the Yankees dynasty is over, and UConn's dynasty can easily end too in the AAC. Part of the reason empires fall is due to a lack of foresight and the belief that you will always be on top no matter what. UConn is demonstrating that right now. You made a stupid decision to prioritize football and the empire may now collapse if you don't get the invite.
No crap the AAC sucks bro but you have no idea what the future holds for conference realignment. The way things are going the NCAA is not for long. Who knows what the landscape of college sports will be in 5 years?
Bottom line is we'll always be relevant in basketball because of our history of championships and NBA players. You'll always be a commuter school full of kids that couldn't get into NYU.
And St John is in the NEW Big east not the old big east. So now it isnt the old St John (C) in the old Big East but has become St John (D) in the new Big East. You also assume that the NEW Big east is better then the AAC which is up for debate.Ok you guys need to understand something. NO ONE is saying St. John's is as good as UConn. Not in the past, not in the current. Not ever. So stop with the St. John's vs. UConn thing. I'm talking strictly about UConn. Only an idiot would actually say SJ can hold a candle to UConn hoops in terms of success. Not many teams can even argue they are more successful. I have no problem admitting the truth.
But now that I established that, you need to understand that UConn is not just UConn. There are two UConn's. UConn(A) is the old Big East version of UConn with a HOF coach in Calhoun and all of those championships come from this era or from something Calhoun touched. This was while you were in the best hoops conference on earth. Yes you won the first year in the AAC. But Calhoun still had his fingerprints on the team because he recruited them. You honestly don't think that helped at all? You really think Kevin Ollie is so amazing in his own right and owes nothing to Calhoun setting him up beautifully? Right now UConn is not UConn(A)…it's UConn(B). UConn(B) is the AAC UConn playing Tulane, ECU, Tulsa, Houston, SMU (irrelevant 99% of the time Brown is not there), etc. UConn(A) and UConn(B) are not the same. A was a legacy in the best conference ever with a HOF coach. B guarantees NOTHING. No one cares you won 4 championships in the future. My point is that none of the football conferences want UConn. You guys are betting against the odds by putting football first. There is a VERY good chance UConn ends up in the AAC and the UConn(A) era fades off. Then the recruiting slows, the conference affiliation starts to hurt, and Ollie has to do things on his own without Calhoun's fingerprints. Is there a chance UConn ends up in a football conference? Yes, albeit a small one. The football program there is absolutely atrocious and no one wants to touch it. You put football first and now you are already paying dearly for it getting the punishment called the AAC which you may be in for the next 20 years. If you don't think being in the AAC for a long time won't change the perception of UConn hoops eventually, then you are in denial.
So when I argue I am talking about UConn(B) aka the AAC UConn. Not the one with old Big East and Calhoun fingerprints (including the one from last year). UConn(A) was great but it's over. End of an era. Ollie got the keys to a Ferrari and now you think it's all his doing that you won a championship. There's a difference between turning a Civic into a Ferrari and inheriting a Ferrari. All I'm saying is that the future does not care about your 4 rings. The future looks bleak for UConn staying in the AAC. So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships, because once the UConn(A) aura wears off (which it will), you may not see another for an entire lifetime if ever again. You are essentially the same as Patriots fans who think they will keep winning SB's when Tom Brady is gone. Once Brady is gone the Patriots turn human again. And once the old Big East/Calhoun influenced UConn era wears off, so will UConn hoops. UConn is now in a transition from best conference ever to a legitimate mid major conference. Yet you act like you are joining the ACC tomorrow. If UConn does not get that invite (and it's likely they won't), UConn will slowly fade into the abyss.
The Roman Empire fell, the Yankees dynasty is over, and UConn's dynasty can easily end too in the AAC. Part of the reason empires fall is due to a lack of foresight and the belief that you will always be on top no matter what. UConn is demonstrating that right now. You made a stupid decision to prioritize football and the empire may now collapse if you don't get the invite.
Take a look at the thread. "Twitter exchange with Corey Evans". I believe a lot has to do with the school, (accepting) a commit & timeframes. There's been talk that Mack/Clarke are tethered in their decision, yet only school on both lists is UConn.
I find it interesting how much you overrate the Big East. Take a look at the Big East's accomplishments over the last 20 years. Then remove the accomplishments of UCONN and Louisville and look at what's left. The Big East of the last 2 decades was basically UCONN, Louisville, a bunch of garbage programs, and some decent programs that are the poster children for choking when it matters most.Ok you guys need to understand something. NO ONE is saying St. John's is as good as UConn. Not in the past, not in the current. Not ever. So stop with the St. John's vs. UConn thing. I'm talking strictly about UConn. Only an idiot would actually say SJ can hold a candle to UConn hoops in terms of success. Not many teams can even argue they are more successful. I have no problem admitting the truth.
But now that I established that, you need to understand that UConn is not just UConn. There are two UConn's. UConn(A) is the old Big East version of UConn with a HOF coach in Calhoun and all of those championships come from this era or from something Calhoun touched. This was while you were in the best hoops conference on earth. Yes you won the first year in the AAC. But Calhoun still had his fingerprints on the team because he recruited them. You honestly don't think that helped at all? You really think Kevin Ollie is so amazing in his own right and owes nothing to Calhoun setting him up beautifully? Right now UConn is not UConn(A)…it's UConn(B). UConn(B) is the AAC UConn playing Tulane, ECU, Tulsa, Houston, SMU (irrelevant 99% of the time Brown is not there), etc. UConn(A) and UConn(B) are not the same. A was a legacy in the best conference ever with a HOF coach. B guarantees NOTHING. No one cares you won 4 championships in the future. My point is that none of the football conferences want UConn. You guys are betting against the odds by putting football first. There is a VERY good chance UConn ends up in the AAC and the UConn(A) era fades off. Then the recruiting slows, the conference affiliation starts to hurt, and Ollie has to do things on his own without Calhoun's fingerprints. Is there a chance UConn ends up in a football conference? Yes, albeit a small one. The football program there is absolutely atrocious and no one wants to touch it. You put football first and now you are already paying dearly for it getting the punishment called the AAC which you may be in for the next 20 years. If you don't think being in the AAC for a long time won't change the perception of UConn hoops eventually, then you are in denial.
So when I argue I am talking about UConn(B) aka the AAC UConn. Not the one with old Big East and Calhoun fingerprints (including the one from last year). UConn(A) was great but it's over. End of an era. Ollie got the keys to a Ferrari and now you think it's all his doing that you won a championship. There's a difference between turning a Civic into a Ferrari and inheriting a Ferrari. All I'm saying is that the future does not care about your 4 rings. The future looks bleak for UConn staying in the AAC. So have all the fun now celebrating your recent championships, because once the UConn(A) aura wears off (which it will), you may not see another for an entire lifetime if ever again. You are essentially the same as Patriots fans who think they will keep winning SB's when Tom Brady is gone. Once Brady is gone the Patriots turn human again. And once the old Big East/Calhoun influenced UConn era wears off, so will UConn hoops. UConn is now in a transition from best conference ever to a legitimate mid major conference. Yet you act like you are joining the ACC tomorrow. If UConn does not get that invite (and it's likely they won't), UConn will slowly fade into the abyss.
The Roman Empire fell, the Yankees dynasty is over, and UConn's dynasty can easily end too in the AAC. Part of the reason empires fall is due to a lack of foresight and the belief that you will always be on top no matter what. UConn is demonstrating that right now. You made a stupid decision to prioritize football and the empire may now collapse if you don't get the invite.
Lot's of things can happen. But the school doesn't have to honor their offer even if a kid accepts. I think this isn't uncommon? Read point 26 here: 50 Critical Tips for Landing an NCAA ScholarshipSo if a coach offers a player a scholarship some can't accept it? Help me do the research please. I can't find anything to support this. Enlighten me with your vast recruiting knowledge. Give me an example of this happening to a specific player.
I find it interesting how much you overrate the Big East. Take a look at the Big East's accomplishments over the last 20 years. Then remove the accomplishments of UCONN and Louisville and look at what's left. The Big East of the last 2 decades was basically UCONN, Louisville, a bunch of garbage programs, and some decent programs that are the poster children for choking when it matters most.
I also find it interesting how much you overrate the inportance of what conference a team plays in. If Ollie gets people to the league on a consistent basis, we will continue to get recruits, because recruits care about that 1000x more than what teams they are playing in their conference. No one good would be going to Kentucky if playing in a good conference was important.