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Is Hurley Really The Answer?

djct1999 said:
Even if Billy Donovan is fired today, he is not coming toUConn. Get real people. Donovan isn't a pipe dream. He is what comes 3x after a pipe dream. There is no way he comes here.
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Agree with that.
 
Walker11 said:
The fact is that the vast majority of people giving their opinion are casual college basketball fans, including myself this past year and don't really have an opinion that deserves to be valued. Bluedog and champs watch more college basketball than anyone on here and aren't elated. Not that that means anything in this particular instance but I value their opinion more than the guy who watched 3 URI games this year (me). A lot of people legitimately only watch Uconn. I like the guy. I'd say I'm a 7/10.
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I get that people are a little trepidatious but I just wish they'd be reasonable. It seems like Hurley will be a high floor/medium ceiling type coach. If we are in the hunt for a tourney bid every year and put together a top 25 team every couple years with some sweet sixteens it will be measurably better than what we had seen under Ollie. His teams play hard, his players love him, and he's overachieved & rebuilt programs everywhere he has been. The resume is solid.
 
Take a snapshot of where we are today. Project where we want to go. Dan Hurley checks all of the boxes. He is the perfect hire and rather than nitpick, recognize he is the best we can do. If we hire Hurley, we are the lucky ones.
 
JMick said:
I get that people are a little trepidatious but I just wish they'd be reasonable. It seems like Hurley will be a high floor/medium ceiling type coach. If we are in the hunt for a tourney bid every year and put together a top 25 team every couple years with some sweet sixteens it will be measurably better than what we had seen under Ollie. His teams play hard, his players love him, and he's overachieved & rebuilt programs everywhere he has been. The resume is solid.
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I totally agree with everything. I just want to be competitive so I can be invested in this sport I have always loved watching.
 
Walker11 said:
Bluedog and champs watch more college basketball than anyone on here and aren't elated. Not that that means anything in this particular instance but I value their opinion more than the guy who watched 3 URI games this year (me). A lot of people legitimately only watch Uconn. I like the guy. I'd say I'm a 7/10.
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That's probably where I'm at. I'm happy to bet on those odds. Might work out, might not.

I've a hard time finding somebody else who'd fit. I liked Nate Oats' team during the tournament. If I woke up tomorrow and he was my coach I'd be excited. Nervous as hell, but excited.
 
intlzncster said:
That's probably where I'm at. I'm happy to bet on those odds. Might work out, might not.

I've a hard time finding somebody else who'd fit. I liked Nate Oats' team during the tournament. If I woke up tomorrow and he was my coach I'd be excited. Nervous as hell, but excited.
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I just have this sinking feeling that Nate Oats is going to repeat his success next year, Boheim is going to retire and he's going to coach 'cuse and do wonders there. No rhyme or reason for it, just know it will be our luck that we had no choice but to hire a guy this year
 
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Captbluefin said:
I am not saying I have a candidate. Like I said it’s disappointing that Hurley is the best we can do..

It’s the AD’s job he gets paid a pile of money to get us a coach... It’s not like other AD’s have not gone out and snagged another teams HC.

Are we not big enough to do that???

I guess the answer is NO.

I pray that Hurley is what everyone thinks he is.. I just don’t see it.. It’s my opinion.. Everyone has one and I respect theirs.
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He is another team’s head coach. Please name a name. Who do you want? Mack at Xavier? Yeah, me too. He’s made it clear he’s staying there. Who else? Bill Self isn’t leaving. Nor Izzo. Nor Mark Few. I simply don’t understand the issue or view that we are settling by landing the guy who is probably the most sought after young coach available.

Let me put it this way, UConn is strong enough to land Hurley. About 2/3 of P5 schools probably aren’t. Let that sink in.
 
Captbluefin said:
Has Hurley ever coached a D1 big man ????? How about a decent player over 6-9 ?
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Also without sufficient knowledge nor experience to judge and without suggesting Hurley will become the second coming of Jim Calhoun, somehow the latter managed to teach and coach some fairly successful big UConn big men. And, sufficiently successful that a few earned some reasonably big NBA dollars after playing in Storrs.

On the other hand @Captbluefin , guess how many big men JC coached with Northeastern? Stretch it to only 6'9"; the answer would be all of one. As in a single NU Huskies' player 6'9" tall played for JC on Huntington Avenue. Over 6'9"? Goose egg!

JC wasn't the first and won't be the last successful coach to recruit, teach, motivate and coach fairly big and truly big men alike to box out, work harder, and even succeed as college hoops' big men. Additionally, Hurley, or Oats or whomever UConn hires, may not achieve such success. However, direct past experience or not may not rule out the possibility ... not so different than when JC arrived in Storrs.
 
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Vuce said:
Once again....if Hurley is “disappointing” to you, who are you comparing him to that would be available?
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I don't believe you'll get an answer from @Captbluefin on this. The totality of his relatively small number of posts gives me cause to wonder about his motives here. I can and have suggested the same about some others.

What most strikes me is how currently I have a higher confidence in a number of posters who I've had on Ignore for quite some time. Clearly, there were intentional disrupters in the post-season last year. No reason to believe it won't be or already isn't the same this year.
 
Walker11 said:
The fact is that the vast majority of people giving their opinion are casual college basketball fans, including myself this past year and don't really have an opinion that deserves to be valued. Bluedog and champs watch more college basketball than anyone on here and aren't elated. Not that that means anything in this particular instance but I value their opinion more than the guy who watched 3 URI games this year (me). A lot of people legitimately only watch Uconn. I like the guy. I'd say I'm a 7/10.
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I haven’t seen URI enough either. Here is my take. His dad was a legendary coach. His brother is a good coach. He took a HS team and made it a power. He made Wagner a winner. He made URI a winner.

So do I think he has everything figured out and is at the coach K level? No. Nor is anyone we could hire. Not a single person. So what I’m ok gambling on is Dan Hurley the man. He likes UConn a lot. He likes New England and the northeast. He smart...smart enough to know what he doesn’t know and listen and learn. He’s firey and passionate. I think he’s an immediate upgrade who can grow here. I’d love to see him adopt a modern offense. Don’t know if he will. If he’s smart enough to adjust to his players, that will be enough. Ollie never did.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
I don't believe you'll get an answer from @Captbluefin on this. The totality of his relatively small number of posts gives me cause to wonder about his motives here. I can and have suggested the same about some others.

What most strikes me is how currently I have a higher confidence in a number of posters who I've had on Ignore for quite some time. Clearly, there were intentional disrupters in the post-season last year. No reason to believe it won't be or already isn't the same this year.
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Just so you know, I just took you off ignore
 
JMick said:
I just have this sinking feeling that Nate Oats is going to repeat his success next year, Boheim is going to retire and he's going to coach 'cuse and do wonders there. No rhyme or reason for it, just know it will be our luck that we had no choice but to hire a guy this year
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Uggh. Oats will take care of his half. He's got a nice team coming back and some good guys coming in. He's going to be good.

That said, I don't think he'd jump this year. We were a year or two too early for his career path.
 
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intlzncster said:
In a vacuum, I like Oat's style as much if not more than Hurley's, but there's a lot more to building and running than simply on the floor coaching. He might have it. Idk tho
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Oats offense is pretty. JC never ran a great offense but he (almost) always put the pieces in the right places. That, IMO, is more important than a scheme.
 
OK so 2 minutes of research tells me that Hurley coached Tristan Thompson (before he kicked him off the team) and Lance Thomas in high school. Both NBA players. Samardo Samuels spent 3 years with the Cavs after Saint Benedicts and Louisville. Greg Echenique was a very good college player, who is in fact a tall person and played at St. Benedicts. Plus Hurley coached JR Smith, which is just fun.

What does this mean? Probably nothing. I just wanted to dispute this one guy's notion that Hurley has apparently never seen someone 6'9.5 before.
 
Walker11 said:
OK so 2 minutes of research tells me that Hurley coached Tristan Thompson (before he kicked him off the team) and Lance Thomas in high school. Both NBA players. Samardo Samuels spent 3 years with the Cavs after Saint Benedicts and Louisville. Greg Echenique was a very good college player, who is in fact a tall person and played at St. Benedicts. Plus Hurley coached JR Smith, which is just fun.

What does this mean? Probably nothing. I just wanted to dispute this one guy's notion that Hurley has apparently never seen someone 6'9.5 before.
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Blueballer said:
Getting clobbered by Duke with a RI roster doesn't mean he's a bad coach.
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But isn't he responsible for the RI roster? And the fact he has very little coming back next year means he's failed to consistently recruit good players. Some people question if he'll leave but looking at next year's roster tells me he'd be foolish if he doesn't take a good offer, from wherever it comes.
 
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Hans Sprungfeld said:
I don't believe you'll get an answer from @Captbluefin on this. The totality of his relatively small number of posts gives me cause to wonder about his motives here. I can and have suggested the same about some others.

What most strikes me is how currently I have a higher confidence in a number of posters who I've had on Ignore for quite some time. Clearly, there were intentional disrupters in the post-season last year. No reason to believe it won't be or already isn't the same this year.
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Yea OK so because I don’t post enough you are questioning my motives????

I want to be a championship contender every season if possible. That’s my motive.
Nothing more nothing less !!!!

After KO’s destruction of our basketball program I am not prepared to settle for just getting in and getting to a sweet 16 every now and then...

We had a powerhouse here and now we have a outhouse...

We are about to turn into a basketball punchline and I hate it.

I thought that the name and history had more pull than many say it does..

But HANSJOB DINGLEBURY don’t judge my motives like a teenage girl trying to look cool for your friends. Because I do not post enough.. Who the heck are you ??
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
, JMick ... posting the Jerome Lane backboard breaker video including over 6'9" Bridgeport native big man, Charles Smith, ... which school are you supporting? ;)
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it's march! that's my only excuse
 
JMick said:
The guy isn't even our coach yet and people are complaining. It wasn't fair to complain about Ollie after six years but it's not even year one yet and the Ollie pollyanas already want Hurley gone. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
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Many people are spoiled, apprehensive and, after seeing the guy with the "the end is near" sign, panicked that Benedict won't get it right and thus will turn UConn into UMass or Rhody from the old Yankee Conference days. It's hard after two decades of glory in the real Big East, being able to lord it over Syracuse and BC, and even Kentucky and Duke, and now not being able to dominate a weaker league.
 
I guess if one does not have the same opinion as the Boneyard’s regular posters you are not allowed to say anything without getting slammed.

I think Hurley is going to be disappointing. And we are settling for him. And it’s not a popular opnion.. But nobody had expressed why they think he can lead us back to dominance or even winning the conference the majority of the time.
 
Captbluefin said:
Yea OK so because I don’t post enough you are questioning my motives????

I want to be a championship contender every season if possible. That’s my motive.
Nothing more nothing less !!!!

After KO’s destruction of our basketball program I am not prepared to settle for just getting in and getting to a sweet 16 every now and then...

We had a powerhouse here and now we have a outhouse...

We are about to turn into a basketball punchline and I hate it.

I thought that the name and history had more pull than many say it does..

But HANSJOB DINGLEBURY don’t judge my motives like a teenage girl trying to look cool for your friends. Because I do not post enough.. Who the heck are you ??
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That was nice. You should post more
 
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Captbluefin said:
Yea OK so because I don’t post enough you are questioning my motives????

I want to be a championship contender every season if possible. That’s my motive.
Nothing more nothing less !!!!

After KO’s destruction of our basketball program I am not prepared to settle for just getting in and getting to a sweet 16 every now and then...

We had a powerhouse here and now we have a outhouse...

We are about to turn into a basketball punchline and I hate it.

I thought that the name and history had more pull than many say it does..

But HANSJOB DINGLEBURY don’t judge my motives like a teenage girl trying to look cool for your friends. Because I do not post enough.. Who the heck are you ??
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Leave Hansjob Dinglebury alone. Almost all of us prefer his posts to yours by a lot.
 
Captbluefin said:
I think Hurley is going to be disappointing. And we are settling for him. And it’s not a popular opnion.. But nobody had expressed why they think he can lead us back to dominance or even winning the conference the majority of the time.
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People has stated all the reasons in the world why it could work. But nobody knows man! It's just a guess.

There's only 5-10 or so coaches in the country where people could categorically state that would happen.
 
Captbluefin said:
I guess if one does not have the same opinion as the Boneyard’s regular posters you are not allowed to say anything without getting slammed.

I think Hurley is going to be disappointing. And we are settling for him. And it’s not a popular opnion.. But nobody had expressed why they think he can lead us back to dominance or even winning the conference the majority of the time.
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This isn't your safe space, you post dumb stuff on a message board, and odds are a bunch of the thousands of posters here are going to roast you for it. Does that surprise you?
 
Walker11 said:
The fact is that the vast majority of people giving their opinion are casual college basketball fans, including myself this past year and don't really have an opinion that deserves to be valued. Bluedog and champs watch more college basketball than anyone on here and aren't elated. Not that that means anything in this particular instance but I value their opinion more than the guy who watched 3 URI games this year (me). A lot of people legitimately only watch Uconn. I like the guy. I'd say I'm a 7/10.
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In fairness I've watched a lot less college basketball this year, but I would echo your 7/10. There's a lot to like about him, I just think people are in this mode where confirmation bias is running wild. Some of the commentary after the 25 point loss to Duke is the sort you'd hear from a mom group on Facebook. I was waiting for a yarder to rush down from the balcony and pass out orange slices during timeouts.

I'm still kind of sour about the KO thing. It was time for him to go, but a lot of the fan base was over-the-top obnoxious about it and I think that managed to run off some of our best posters. Would love to hear the opinions of gurleyman, aceboon, james, etc.
 
Huskyfan4evr said:
As coach K said at halftime. Duke has been making shots and URI hasn't. The coach can't shoot it for them. Duke is much better team as they should be. Hurley would be a great addition to uconn. Let's face it he can't be any worse then KO. No offense, defense, recruits the past couple years.
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One of the criticisms people have made about Hurley is his in game management. Maybe he can't shoot for them, and I didn't see the whole game, but did he call any times out to settle them down, get them to stop rushing shots, or in any other way manage his team? Or did he just watch as Ollie did?
 
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