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Is Hurley Really The Answer?

whaler11 said:
Nobody does.

I can’t listen to this divorce nonsense anymore.

Millions of people get divorced. Most of them aren’t lucky enough to have negotiated guaranteed money from SuzieLax and David the Oaf. They get up and they do their jobs or they starve to death.

You don’t get to run a huge enterprise into an iceberg and have people say aw.. poor baby got divorced. It’s the most pathetic excuse bandied about here.

If getting divorced kept him from doing his job he should have quit.

Otherwise shut the everliving hell up about it. It’s not a gd excuse.
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A guy who can't handle what other people "say" is giving advice about how we should deal with divorce. I love this place.
 
fleudslipcon said:
A guy who can't handle what other people "say" is giving advice about how we should deal with divorce. I love this place.
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Oh god the message board psychologists are out in force this morning.

It’s good though. It’s nice to have the rank stupidity broken up with some PSY 100 level analysis.

It’s not advice. If you can’t do your job because you can’t handle your feelings you should resign.

Let someone worthy of 15 million dollars dollars do the job.

Why don’t you analyze why so few here care to hold anyone accountable for anything? Like in the real world.
 
whaler11 said:
Oh god the message board psychologists are out in force this morning.

It’s good though. It’s nice to have the rank stupidity broken up with some PSY 100 level analysis.

It’s not advice. If you can’t do your job because you can’t handle your feelings you should resign.

Let someone worthy of 15 million dollars dollars do the job.

Why don’t you analyze why so few here care to hold anyone accountable for anything? Like in the real world.
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Did I get under your thin skin. More proof you lack emotional fortitude.

My disagreement isn't over the need to do jobs even during adversity. It's your arrogant approach to things that I'm laughing at.

One, two posters at the most discussed KO's divorce in this thread and I'm not sure they were using it as a defense to keep him as opposed to stating an observation he changed after the divorce. Yet you felt the need to overdramatize the situation as you are so often prone to do. If anyone needs to STHU you might start by looking in the mirror.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Did I get under your thin skin. More proof you lack emotional fortitude.

My disagreement isn't over the need to do jobs even during adversity. It's your arrogant approach to things that I'm laughing at.

One, two posters at the most discussed KO's divorce in this thread and I'm not sure they were using it as a defense to keep him as opposed to stating an observation he changed after the divorce. Yet you felt the need to overdramatize the situation as you are so often prone to do. If anyone needs to STHU you might start by looking in the mirror.
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Yes my post was only about 2 posts in this thread. The concept has never been raised prior.

For a smart guy you don’t really get how the internet works. Your attempts to play doctor are mostly misguided flailing.
 
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djct1999 said:
Because his players are graduating and it's UConn.
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If you think that’s enough... coaches will always have players just about to graduate or take the next step... I just don’t know if he’s coming.
 
tzznandrew said:
It's Rutgers, that's why. This isn't rocket science.
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Yeah, it's a place coaches go to die. Wikipedia doesn't even bother to list them. Since JC, a veritable murderers row: Eddie Jordan;Mike Rice;Fred Hill;Gary Waters;Kevin Bannon;Bob Wenzel;Craig Littlepage

And now Steve Pikiell. Hoping he can carve something out, because of the connections, but they extended the guy after two consecutive losing seasons and last place finishes in the B1G. That's where they're at.
 
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I’m starting to think we might get Hurley. In the pit of my stomach I really think we are trying to get someone else
 
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I'm not sure Hurley is the answer. But right now, he's a better option than most of the others that I've seen.
 
Jaker said:
not really a Frank fan,
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I know you aren’t a Frank fan but it isn’t up to you. DB will choose the best option for us. Whoever it is I’ll be happy not to have ollie
 
Block C said:
I know you aren’t a Frank fan but it isn’t up to you. DB will choose the best option for us. Whoever it is I’ll be happy not to have ollie
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hey, I will support whomever is hired.
 
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selles said:
I really enjoyed watching him lose his mind after that rebounding foul call yesterday. I've missed that.
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Definitely lip-read "you should be ashamed".

KO didn't stick up for his guys in 4 years.
 
whaler11 said:
Yes my post was only about 2 posts in this thread. The concept has never been raised prior.

For a smart guy you don’t really get how the internet works. Your attempts to play doctor are mostly misguided flailing.
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So you agree with me. You are misguided and I’m wasting my time conversing with you.
 
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Deadrody said:
Gosh, I can't for the life of me think of one thing different about UConn and Rutgers.
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I can think of loads of different things but for all of the brilliant analysis that has said that UConn is a lock over Pitt bc of logistics, ummm, I don’t think they really care about being close to NJ. So let’s not pick and choose which moronic logic we follow... because that logic just blows my mind. Add the actual state, loads of money, umm, he coached there, and a really great conference... I think he stays at URI.
 
Scrutiner said:
Very well said. Great summary of where lots of us are. We all want to get back to where UConn was from 1990 to 2014 and we're concerned we might not be getting the Hall of Fame coach we've come to expect. Maybe that's unrealistic with all that's changed in the past few years, but we're fans and it's our right to have outrageous expectations, isn't it? That's why the coaches and AD's get the big paychecks and why there's so much give an take on this site and this subject.
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Unfortunately, especially in response to Jimdish255's post, what you're hoping for is some kind of magical, catch lightning in a jar, kind of hire.

I just don't think you'll actually find that in a tiny, tiny sample size of a couple games in one NCAA tournament, that you'll discover the next great coach that wasn't already on people's radar. You'll get much further looking at someone's body of work as coach, over multiple seasons, and even multiple schools, including recruiting, than just someone who gets their team on one good run for a couple games. You're destined for heartbreak if you go that route.
 
Huskybass said:
Rod Sellers averaged about 12 and 8 his last 2 years, I think he deserves a mention here.
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HuskyHawk said:
Travis Knight was a very good big, before Jake. First round draft pick by the Bulls.
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Eek, fellas. You know you're just making his argument for him, right ? They were a "donut" team before Jake. The fact that Rod Sellers was able to be successful playing C in a PF body doesn't change that. Nor does the fact that Calhoun was able to turn a skinny 7 footer like Travis into a first round pick. I love those teams as much as anyone, but one of the few things Calhoun's earlier teams lacked was a big man at center that could control the paint.
 
whaler11 said:
Oh god the message board psychologists are out in force this morning.

It’s good though. It’s nice to have the rank stupidity broken up with some PSY 100 level analysis.

It’s not advice. If you can’t do your job because you can’t handle your feelings you should resign.

Let someone worthy of 15 million dollars dollars do the job.

Why don’t you analyze why so few here care to hold anyone accountable for anything? Like in the real world.
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Whenever people use phrases like "you can't handle your feelings" you can pretty much bet that their argument is starting from a very shaky place. I've also noticed that "psychologist" is often a proxy for "human" on this particular message board, and on that one I'm sure you'd be in good company.

You're a reasonable guy so I think common ground can be reached on this subject even if we disagree. I'm not asking you to feel bad for KO or anybody else for that matter. I just don't get why we can't let bad things stand for themselves without immediately projecting some judgement onto what happened thereafter. It's a societal phenomenon that makes no sense to me. Getting divorced is awful. It's an awful thing that didn't have to happen regardless of how that person may have responded to it. There's a big difference between rejecting a consequence for someone's actions and humanizing the heartbreak that may have preceded them.
 
Uconnfanatic said:
My point throughout my posts have been that we should take a good hard look at Oats before deciding that Hurley is the guy. Upon close examination, DB might find he likes Oats even better. Experience certainly favor Hurley but there may be some intangibles that favor Oats. None of us know. There isn't one definitive answer as some of you seem to think there is.
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You still seem to not be able to get past this "good hard look" thing. First, how do you know AD Dave has not taken a good hard look at Oats? Second, what is the evidence that Oats is worthy of this delay in the process so that he can be vetted, interviewed, negotiate with him, etc? We can't just go taking a good hard look at every single coach who has a couple of good games in the tournament when there's no other available evidence that he's worthy of being the head coach at UConn. Third, what intangibles do you see that are present and what kinds of intangibles are going to come up in an interview? This sounds more like a fishing expedition than an interview process. You have to consider candidates and only interview those who REALLY check the boxes you're looking for, and do it quick. Oats checks a few but has some very big red flags (flight risk, recruiting ties to the area, overall experience) that Dan Hurley does not.

Dan Hurley isn't guaranteed to be the next Calhoun and make us a national title contender in three years, but of the available candidates he's the best option. He may not succeed, but no coach offers that guarantee. Dan Hurley has the fewest overall red flags.

Others here have said AD Dave should just go get someone - who? Consider that Indiana's big program building hire was the coach of Dayton, another A-10 school. Did they settle too? They're Indiana, they should be able to go get whoever they want! You can't just go out there and pry away whoever you want. This "do a national search" nonsense is antiquated and out of touch thinking. Plus, how do you (not you necessarily, Fanatic) know AD Dave has not done a "national search"?

UConn wouldn't be "settling" with Hurley, it'd be hiring the best of the available pool of calculated risks. He is not guaranteed to succeed, he is not a slam dunk sure thing to lead us to domination again, he is not guaranteed to lead us to a national championship at any point in his potential career at UConn. But none of the other realistic candidates are either. That's not because we've fallen to a dumpster fire program, it's because no one - not even Indiana! - can just go hire whoever they want from anywhere.
 
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