I'm not one for dragging up Edsall stuff but...

[NutmegState]

I don't care about Ambrose, but if anyone thinks he was running what he wanted to here, they're fooling themselves.

Norries Wilson was the only OC under Edsall with any authority.

I love this notion that Edsall didn't want to throw too much because of the NE weather.

Orlovsky was throwing the ball all over the place.

 

[NutmegState]

Was it Shawn Courchesne?

It was not, but man SC really hates Edsall, huh?

 

[Waquoit]

Orlovsky was throwing the ball all over the place.

Not against BCU he wasn't. FUCRE played that game to keep it close, not to win.

 

[Nostical]

I once asked Lorenzen at a party if was frustrating to have to run that conservative Ambrose offense. He smiled and said " it's not Ambrose".

 

[noeynox]

How about this. He came in and cleaned house sorta like HCPP has done here at UConn. He has his standards of what he expects from the players and if they don't like it they can leave. Same goes for any program with a new coaching staff coming in. Not sure how you and others don't see that. Again the hatred for Edsall clouds your mind.
Here is some issues they had

Good thing players never got in trouble while at UConn under Randy's watch. Maybe its your love of Randy that clouds your mind. On a team with 105 players you're going to get a few growing pains. Its just life. The assault of a bar owner is over the top, no room for that IMO, and its inexcusable.

I acknowledge Randy did well here. I just never bought into him being some sort of coaching messiah, and for someone who was a good to average coach, he came off as a huge , to media, fans, and players.

I was asking about UMD's problems cause I really didn't know. I didn't really know cause I really don't care. I do find the questioning of Fridge's tactics in how he ran the UMD program somewhat hypocritical given the state of our basketball program, loss of scholarships, possible postseason ban etc. I say that as I admit that I am huge fan of all Jim Calhoun had done for UConn. Guess I just don't see the need to throw rocks at Fridges house from our glass one.

 

[epark88]

It was not, but man SC really hates Edsall, huh?

To be honest, it's kinda hard to figure what SC doesn't hate.

If it doesn't turn left, SC probably ain't diggin' it...

 

[businesslawyer]

Ok, that makes sense. I don't think he recruited bad players. Not at all. I still get heart sick about Cody Endres. I think that kid should be in the NFL right now. I can still see the first pass he threw in a game as clear as day in my mind right now. I think he wanted a QB that was smart enough to understand what he was asking of them, and make the safe, lowest risk choice with ball on the field. I think that a player like Cody Endres, that had all the physical tools, to make all the throws, and had the moxie to go out there and want to do it, made him really nervous, because if one of those risky throws got picked off, or if our field position got hurt by starting to throw more on traditional running downs, or pushing the envelope, it would expose the other areas of our football team that were weak.

We are going to be a different kind of team in the future. George Deleone is ancient. I wish I could share a story, right now,but I won't. But that guy, and a guy like Shane Day, that was able to keep up with and catch Mike Martz' eye?

Oh boy, that makes me excited about our offense.

I don't understand your belief about a fear of Endres. His Sophomore year, he only came out of the lineup when he got hurt. His Junior year, when he came of suspension it took Edsall less than a half to give him the job back. He then stayed in the lineup until the University -- not Edsall -- made him ineligible. What made Edsall nervous about Cody was he had an addiction -- not that he liked throwing the ball. When he was in the lineup, Edsall let him throw. it. You don't think Edsall didn't have the power to tell him to hand it off?

 

[businesslawyer]

They lost 3 scholarships due to APR and lost practice time due to interns and grad students watching off season practice. This happened under Fridge's watch and RE had to deal with it.

Would you stop with the damn facts! It just makes us jerks for interfering with others' opinions.

 

[businesslawyer]

I also had conversations with a staff member now with Edsall at MD after the Meineke Car Care Bowl where he said the offensive game plan Ambrose came up with was weaker than the one's he had drawn up coaching hs ball in the FCIAC. He was SERIOUSLY dis-liked by staff members at UConn. Ambrose isn't very popular with Towson guys either...I work with a guy who played at Towson and he is referred to as "The D**k" by former players. It will be interesting to see how he does going forward at Towson. He did some number here on the relationship with CT HS coaches. Just ask Sean Marrinan of Xavier.
Doesn't matter now all 3 of them are no longer here...with Moorehead the one I wished had stayed.
Question I have is...what happened between Norries Wilson and Ambrose/Moorehead? Before Wilson left we threw the basll all over the field.

Ambrose was Wilson's successor at OC.

 

[businesslawyer]

Whaler,

There is no difference between choosing to have a bad QB and failing to have a decent one on the roster. One of his his biggest failings was not having a serviceable QB as DanOs successor.

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Sure there is. It's the difference between being having failed to do a part of your job well versus being a duck*ing moron. If we could have a rational discussion on the parts of his job he wasn't/isn't good at instead of constantly ending up with the latter, these threads would end much more quickly.

 

[rich1122]

He should have kept Dennis Brown!! LOL Does he have any eligibility??

 

[Palatine]

Red shirting Brown was a dumb decision, no?

 

[whaler11]

Red shirting Brown was a dumb decision, no?

This would be funny if it was sarcastic. It's hilarious because you mean it.

 

[rich1122]

I just think that it would have been interesting if he was the QB instead of TL and we threw the ball vertically - he had the arm!!! Luckily we had Donald Brown.

 

[CAPS]

My god Edsall is like Dracula he just won't die! Anybody got garlic?

 

[ZooCougar]

In busnesslawyer's world; rational discussion equals one that business lawyer agrees with.

It could be that Edsall failed to do his job and that he is a f......ing idiot.

Sure there is. It's the difference between being having failed to do a part of your job well versus being a duck*ing moron. If we could have a rational discussion on the parts of his job he wasn't/isn't good at instead of constantly ending up with the latter, these threads would end much more quickly.

 

[Nostical]

It could be that Edsall failed to do his job and that he is a f......ing idiot.

In my world, where we look at things through apologista colored glasses, he was neither.

 

[FDNY99]

Ambrose was Wilson's successor at OC.

Yeah I know...when Wilson was here we threw the ball ALL over the place...after he left we ran the ball more than a kids flag football team!

 

[sportsart]

In busnesslawyer's world; rational discussion equals one that business lawyer agrees with.

It could be that Edsall failed to do his job and that he is a f......ing idiot.

Is that you TDH?

 

[businesslawyer]

Is that you TDH?

Actually, I don't think that is fair. TDH obsesses over the same point over and over, and certainly annoys me at times because his repetition of the one point is thrown in anywhere and often makes discussion more difficult (and I'm not at all implying I don't annoy people at times because it certainly seems like I do). But TDH does not disagree with people for any reason other than he disagrees and is rarely personally nasty (as opposed to giving professional criticism in his posts and rarely attacks posters individually). Psychotic at times, sure, but not nasty!

TDH will say we've failed and failed miserably at passing the ball (which, for the most part, no one disagrees with). But he does not state or imply that people are morons because of the failure -- just that they've failed.

 

[ZooCougar]

Actually, I don't think that is fair. TDH obsesses over the same point over and over, and certainly annoys me at times because his repetition of the one point is thrown in anywhere and often makes discussion more difficult (and I'm not at all implying I don't annoy people at times because it certainly seems like I do). But TDH does not disagree with people for any reason other than he disagrees and is rarely personally nasty (as opposed to giving professional criticism in his posts and rarely attacks posters individually). Psychotic at times, sure, but not nasty!

TDH will say we've failed and failed miserably at passing the ball (which, for the most part, no one disagrees with). But he does not state or imply that people are morons because of the failure -- just that they've failed.

This post is irrational. Of course we failed miserably in implementing a passing attack, but that ignores the fact we successfully implemented the 2.7 yards and a cloud of dust offense. We also were really successful in getting our punts blocked.

 

[huskysupporter]

This post is irrational. Of course we failed miserably in implementing a passing attack, but that ignores the fact we successfully implemented the 2.7 yards and a cloud of dust offense. We also were really successful in getting our punts blocked.

Why are you infatuated with Randy Edsall? Maybe you should post on the Maryland board?

 

[Carl Spackler]

I don't understand your belief about a fear of Endres. His Sophomore year, he only came out of the lineup when he got hurt. His Junior year, when he came of suspension it took Edsall less than a half to give him the job back. He then stayed in the lineup until the University -- not Edsall -- made him ineligible. What made Edsall nervous about Cody was he had an addiction -- not that he liked throwing the ball. When he was in the lineup, Edsall let him throw. it. You don't think Edsall didn't have the power to tell him to hand it off?

First off, you should go look and see if Endres really did throw it with any more frequency than any other QB's did.

Frazer charted 562 pass attempts in 23 games played.

Endres charted 313 pass attempts in 13 games played.

24 a game. Each. Actually closer to 25 for Frazer and 24 for Endres.



Off the field issues have absolutely nothign to do with anything I've written, except that it seems apparent, that Edsall somehow let it effect his judgement, such that he was willing to give Frazer the job in the offseason after 2009 when he hadn't demonstrated on the field that he deserved it clearly over Endres, yet early in 2010, half time in a tie ball game, he pulls Frazer and inserts Endres, who would be out of the program for good two weeks later. The team by that point after finishing 2009 so strong, got so royally screwed up that if it wasn't for a few players, taking their own initiative, the 2010 season would have gone down the drains. I wonder if those players, ever got the credit they deserved from the head coach for leading that team to the Fiesta Bowl, before he left for Maryland.

There are those of us, out here, who do recognize what the leaders of that 2010 roster did. Well done.

 

[businesslawyer]

First off, you should go look and see if Endres really did throw it with any more frequency than any other QB's did.

Frazer charted 562 pass attempts in 23 games played.

Endres charted 313 pass attempts in 13 games played.

24 a game. Each. Actually closer to 25 for Frazer and 24 for Endres.



Off the field issues have absolutely nothign to do with anything I've written, except that it seems apparent, that Edsall somehow let it effect his judgement, such that he was willing to give Frazer the job in the offseason after 2009 when he hadn't demonstrated on the field that he deserved it clearly over Endres, yet early in 2010, half time in a tie ball game, he pulls Frazer and inserts Endres, who would be out of the program for good two weeks later. The team by that point after finishing 2009 so strong, got so royally screwed up that if it wasn't for a few players, taking their own initiative, the 2010 season would have gone down the drains. I wonder if those players, ever got the credit they deserved from the head coach for leading that team to the Fiesta Bowl, before he left for Maryland.

There are those of us, out here, who do recognize what the leaders of that 2010 roster did. Well done.

I wrote a response, but no point. have a nice day.

 

[sportsart]

This post is irrational. Of course we failed miserably in implementing a passing attack, but that ignores the fact we successfully implemented the 2.7 yards and a cloud of dust offense. We also were really successful in getting our punts blocked.

You are embarrassing yourself with your RE obsession. Please continue.

 

[ZooCougar]

You are embarrassing yourself with your RE obsession. Please continue.

Actually, way more people agree with me than you'll ever realize. I'd rather be critical of a former head coach than be some weird parent stalker.

 

[sportsart]

Actually, way more people agree with me than you'll ever realize. I'd rather be critical of a former head coach than be some weird parent stalker.

For once show some balls and say whats on your mind instead of talking in circles with your ignorant comments.

There's critical and there is obsession. You are obsessed. If you feel as though you are on the same level as the "hate for no reason" group then more power to you.

Again...please explain the parent stalker comment. You've gone from embarrassing yourself to being an a**hole. Oh wait...that's right...you've always been an a**hole.

 

[ZooCougar]

That shoe fits you extremely well. But your obsession with me is starting to be kinda weird.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I wrote a response, but no point. have a nice day.

I do that sometimes too. You have a nice day as well. I heard my first tweety bird of the spring outside the kitchen windows this morning. Lots of frost out there this morning, but the birds are back. And that means it's almost time for football again.

 

[sportsart]

Typical Cougar speak. I respond to your comments but I'm obsessed with you?

Next time Don Brown or any other parent calls me or emails me I'll tell them to stop stalking me. Oh wait..I'm stalking them. My bad.

By the way. Who I know in terms of parents never ever come out in my posts (until this one) so you need to move on to someone else.