Illinois Post Game Thread

[ctbro1999]

We beat a tough ranked opponent by 13 points and a bunch of us are bickering like we lost by 13. Classic BY.

 

[uconnfan68]

That’s what they said, but I went back and watched the whole possession over and that explanation was nonsense.

Good thing they didn’t ask you!

 

[Rondogg]

I was surprised we had more rebounds.

 

[thekollieman]

It wasn't incorrect. Your math is incorrect.

32-10=22

Obviously you weren’t looking at it like that, but that’s what I see clearly on replay after replay.

 

[JCisthegoat]

From what I’ve seen so far this year, I’ll be shocked if this isn’t a 2nd weekend team at worst

 

[thekollieman]

Good thing they didn’t ask you!

You made me chuckle. Most fun post against my perspective on this so far.

 

[storrsroars]

Worth noting both Smith and Reibe were written off by various posters here earlier in the year, which is why some people get tired of the knee jerk reactions

Guilty on Smith, not guilty on Reibe. And you forgot to mention all the "Karaban sucks" comments.

 

[ArizonaHsky]

Reveling in being unbearable is peak Boneyard.

King is soft!

 

[JakeTheDog]

Some of it must be due to autocorrect but in this thread I’ve seen:

Reiner
Reibel
Reliebe
Riebe

It’s Reibe. Eric Reibe.

 

[storrsroars]

Are you out of your mind? Who would I be virtue signaling to on an anonymous basketball fan forum? It’s an appropriate point of discussion regarding the game we all just watched.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Some of it must be due to autocorrect but in this thread I’ve seen:

Reiner
Reibel
Reliebe
Riebe

It’s Reibe. Eric Reibe.

Agreed. Have some respect for the young Australian.

 

[blkknight1]

Seems the team really put an emphasis on winning the glass. Getting outrebounded by 20 at home had to sting a lot. Tye guys went hard to the glass today and were scraping, if they couldn't get it they tipped it so someone else could

 

[upstater]

God forbid this play happened with Illinois shooting and they said shot counted. Refs would have been crucified on here. We do win anyway even if that basket didn't count. Reibe was great and they need to find a way to give Smith minutes even when Demary is not in foul trouble.

I think the math is off.

Malachi missed and the ball hit the rim but the clock resets when possession is ESTABLISHED. NOT when the ball hits the rim.

This is why 2:32 is not the correct time for the original reset.

It's more like 2:31 or 2:30.

So when the ref blows the whistle on Malachi's shot, the clock reads 2:11.

For argument sake, you could say that Malachi was fouled within the 20 seconds BUT he let the ball go AFTER the 20 seconds had run out. So you wipe away the 3 and give him 3 foul shots.

Kollieman's math and understanding is bad on this one.

 

[thekollieman]

The refs have to STOP play for that to happen. You don't rewind whatever happened before the whistle UNLESS the refs missed the expiration of the clock.

Look, we see this all the time.

A team gets the ball and the clock doesn't reset. The refs blow the whistle. The team then inbounds the ball. But they don't get to start from the time the play clock should've started. They begin from the point the whistle blew and the refs account for the proper elapsed time.

They never start play from the point the clock should (or should not have been) reset.

Fair enough. That’s why in my original post (which got merged minutes later as the game ended) I said that intuitively it should be neither a shot clock violation nor a counted basket. But I was asking what the official rules say about something like this. So how do you think it should have been addressed? They got it right by counting the basket and proceeding with the call on the floor?

 

[KingAG]

*Checks ignored content

Laughs hysterically

 

[nomar]

The refs thinking was right. There were still 2 seconds on the play clock when the timer reset it to 20.

Malachi shot the ball 18 seconds into the shot clock.

So, it was close, but the logic was right.

What was bothering me was that it seemed they were going to wave it off and give the ball to Illinois if he didn't get it off within 2 seconds, but why? Smith had the ball with what should have been 2 seconds on the shot clock, but the official shot clock itself had reset. If it hadn't, he would have shot the ball! If the refs ruled that he hadn't gotten the shot off in 2 seconds, what they should have done was reset the shot clock to 2 and given UConn the ball side out. I get that that's not the rule, but it should be!

Anyway, Smith was fantastic even beyond that shot. And Reibe showed up in the second half. Didn't love that we repeated exactly what we did against BYU, but that was a big win.

 

[NJHusky]

I mean we had people in a span of about 5 minutes go from saying we are one of the best teams in the country to panicking about how we were going to lose this game when we were still up 10, lol. Seemed a little bit too reactionary to me. Then again, I know that's the norm around here haha.

I get what you're saying and I don't like seeing us blow leads either. I'm just not worried about it. Refs gave Dybantsa a good whistle in the BYU game, Illinois got a pretty one sided whistle once we were up big in this one. Shooting also went ice cold both games. We should probably scheme around the poor shooting a bit better, but I'm confident the staff will sort that out. We still won by double figures

I think Illinois didn’t make a shot for the first 8-9 min of second half. All their pints were on FT. seemed to me that fouls 3&4 on Tarris looked like phantom call. And one on Ross too

 

[upstater]

There was also a shot clock problem on the offensive rebound before Karaban’s drive, so there should have been more time for Karaban to shoot. Basically the whole possession was screwed up by clock operator.

I know the announcers might've said this, but it's incorrect, the 20 second clock reset once Reibe corralled the rebound off the Malachi miss.

There was no error from the shot clock operator on the initial miss.

 

[Nameless]

I think Illinois didn’t make a shot for the first 8-9 min of second half. All their pints were on FT. seemed to me that fouls 3&4 on Tarris looked like phantom call. And one on Ross too

The third foul on Ross was ridiculous. You could literally see the offensive player (forget who it was) throw his off arm into his chest and elbow him off. I couldn't believe they called that on Jayden

 

[upstater]

What was bothering me was that it seemed they were going to wave it off and give the ball to Illinois if he didn't get it off within 2 seconds, but why? Smith had the ball with what should have been 2 seconds on the shot clock, but the official shot clock itself had reset. If it hadn't, he would have shot the ball! If the refs ruled that he hadn't gotten the shot off in 2 seconds, what they should have done was reset the shot clock to 2 and given UConn the ball side out. (Maybe that's the rule, but Alberts and Smith certainly didn't think so.)

Anyway, Smith was fantastic even beyond that shot. And Reibe showed up in the second half. Didn't love that we repeated exactly what we did against BYU, but that was a big win.

But that never happens when we see a team with the ball in their offensive set with the clock not operating properly. They blow the whistle, determine how much time should have been on the clock, then they give the ball to the offensive team with a side out but with the time elapsed. I don't think they can rewind things to restart play before the whistle unless the original shot clock had expired.

The only exception is if you're in overtime at Marquette in 2013. Then they can basically do whatever they want and rewind time.

 

[prankster]

Some of it must be due to autocorrect but in this thread I’ve seen:

Reiner
Reibel
Reliebe
Riebe

It’s Reibe. Eric Reibe.

Reliable.

Got it!

 

[cp176]

My players of the game:
Smith obviously. He has been good from the first time he stepped on the court. Today, he was the only guard who was able to control the dribbler. That pickup was huge. Tremendous energy.
Karaban played like he always does. Good tough intelligent play.
Reibe - This kid is good and will get better and better as time goes along.

Today they played like a good, tough, deep team. Everybody made some sort of contribution. Illinois is talented. We wore them down.

 

[upstater]

Fair enough. That’s why in my original post (which got merged minutes later as the game ended) I said that intuitively it should be neither a shot clock violation nor a counted basket. But I was asking what the official rules say about something like this. So how do you think it should have been addressed? They got it right by counting the basket and proceeding with the call on the floor?

At the very least it should have been 3 free throws.

I don't know the rules on continuation, it's new.

But Malachi does get the shot off at 2:10, so the shot clock should've expired at 2:11.

The ref blows his whistle BEFORE 2:11.

3 free throws would've been the correct decision.

 

[Scoe]

We look very good with things to work on. A solid in control win.

 

[Stinger92860]

Why don’t you? It didn’t cost Illinois the game and it’s great that it worked out in our favor but it wasn’t right. You know as well as I do that if the roles were reversed the Boneyard would be rioting. It just wasn’t right.

It did not cost Illinois the game, it ended the suspense