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Mr. French said:
Ross annd AK were awesome today. Reibe was excellent. Malachi was INCREDIBLE.

Solo was really good despite shooting poorly. It’s not great that his shooting is this off, but I’m still not freaked out. He’s playing great in general and rebounding.

He still gets blown by on D way too easily.
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When Solo is shooting well, it is possible to overlook some of his defensive flaws. Have to say that I wasn’t really impressed by Demary’s on the ball d either. Smith was the best guard on the court for us. I thought that both Stewart and Ross made some good contributions as well.
 
Solo is so good from midrange and at the basket right now that if he could just shoot 38% from 3 he would sleepwalk to 18-20 points a game. if he wasn't still lighting it up in practice I doubt Hurley would give him free reign to hoist them up, hoping it eventually bounces back in his favor but he hasn't shot it well from 3 in any game yet dating all the way back to the exhibitions.
 
upstater said:
But that never happens when we see a team with the ball in their offensive set with the clock not operating properly. They blow the whistle, determine how much time should have been on the clock, then they give the ball to the offensive team with a side out but with the time elapsed. I don't think they can rewind things to restart play before the whistle unless the original shot clock had expired.

The only exception is if you're in overtime at Marquette in 2013. Then they can basically do whatever they want and rewind time.
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They can review a play to see if a whistle was blown late. All I'm saying is that it seems totally appropriate for a player to follow the official shot clock and that, in cases where the malfunction prejudiced the team with the ball, the officials should go back in time to whenever it "malfunctioned" -- whether because it erroneously stopped or reset. I would have been really ticked off if we lost possession because of the shot clock operator.

Anyway, we won, the shot was awesome, and the result was awesome. The 11-0 Illinois run wasn't, but a 13-point lead over a good team is a great win any way you slice it.
 
nomar said:
They can review a play to see if a whistle was blown late. All I'm saying is that it seems totally appropriate for a player to follow the official shot clock and that, in cases where the malfunction prejudiced the team with the ball, the officials should go back in time to whenever it "malfunctioned" -- whether because it erroneously stopped or reset. I would have been really ticked off if we lost possession because of the shot clock operator.

Anyway, we won, the shot was awesome, and the result was awesome. The 11-0 Illinois run wasn't, but a 13-point lead over a good team is a great win any way you slice it.
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I couldn’t agree more with all of this.
 
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Excalibur said:
Let’s be 100% clear. The shot clock call was 100% correct. Karaban rebounded the ball as the clock went from 2:30 to 2:29. On the whistle, there was 2:10 left. He got it off in time.
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Just to be 100% clear since I replied to a reply before seeing this: Reibe* rebounded the ball with 2:32 on the clock. See attachment. On the whistle, there was in fact 2:10 left. 22 seconds of game time elapsed. Apologies if this is beating a dead horse.
 

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NJHusky said:
You do realize Ross Solo and Stew have been here for 3 years. Tarris was here last year. in 23/24 Cam and Steph were in year 1

‘24 team had 8 years experience at UConn. This year starters have 13
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Those guys have more years but the problem is the key guys don't. The guys playing to point the trigger postion have been here months. Tristan in his first year running the offense struggled people were ready to run him off campus until the tournament. His second year in he had mastered it. The same thing with Hassan as his backup they both had so much experience running the offense.
 
Nameless said:
The third foul on Ross was ridiculous. You could literally see the offensive player (forget who it was) throw his off arm into his chest and elbow him off. I couldn't believe they called that on Jayden
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Was that the one with the continuation (which, while now "correct", was also a bit ridiculous)?
 
I just watched the replay like 10 times (btw the full game replay is up on the Fox sports app if you want to watch yourself)

Looks like Reibe grabs the first offensive rebound at 2:32 ticking into 2:31. The foul happens at 2:11 ticking into 2:10. It’s a difference of milliseconds. Put a gun to my head and make me pick, I’d call it a shot clock violation. But it’s SO close and I don’t think you can overturn a call that’s so close. Not 100% clear and conclusive

And if we’re playing this game, #3 on Illinois definitely hooks Karaban’s arm on his drive before the shot anyway. So call that correctly and none of if this matters lol
 
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Still need to do a better job of not letting teams to come back when we have a comfortable lead. Need that killer instinct to put the game away.
 
thekollieman said:
I just went back and rewatched that possession from the beginning. The ultimate explanation from the announcers was not true. In the original shot clock, Smith missed a layup off the rim and they reset the clock properly. Then Karaban’s shot didn’t hit the rim, but they improperly reset the clock.

In my opinion, they handled it incorrectly: it should have been UConn possession on the baseline with about 3 second on the shot clock. The basket should not have counted because it was released after the shot clock would have expired. However, it should not have been a turnover to Illinois because the reality on the floor was a reset shot clock, and the players responded to the live ruling. So, in my opinion, they made the wrong determination to count the basket and also offered a factually untrue explanation for that decision.
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The 20 second shot clock started at 2:30, the shot by Malachi came at 2:11. The referee called it right. I replayed it several times.
 
I need to see a replay again because I feel like I saw something different than everybody else. On the replay they showed of the "shot that didn't hit the rim", I swear I saw on the rebounding that someone (couldn't see who or what team) tipped the ball back towards the basket and the ball just barely nicked the rim. If that really happened, the clock would have reset then and the ensuing shot would count. I am doubting what I thought I saw because no one else seemed to see it. But it WOULD explain the call that everyone is arguing about.
 
thekollieman said:
The clock DID reset on the first shot. I had to go back because that whole situation stunk to me and the explanation does not hold up to inspection.
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If you watched the replay, you would see the shot clock reset at 2:30 and Malachi's shot came at 2:11. Therefore, the call was correct.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Reed doesn’t strike me as the kind of kid that can tough out some pain. His body language was lousy today. Reibe was the better player when in.

That cut by Ross for the easy dump down is exactly the kind of headsy plays we need out of that role. These are the kind of things Stew doesn’t do.
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This post is Exhibit A of what I was talking about yesterday and why nobody respects your opinion. We just beat a top 15 team at MSG and you come here to post this idiocy.

We're 7 games into the season and you have trashed basically every UConn rotation player already
 
navery12 said:
This post is Exhibit A of what I was talking about yesterday and why nobody respects your opinion. We just beat a top 15 team at MSG and you come here to post this idiocy.

We're 7 games into the season and you have trashed basically every UConn rotation player already
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It's a pretty marked contrast to Hurley's comments on Reed post-game.
 
RuffRuff said:
Reed doesn’t strike me as the kind of kid that can tough out some pain. His body language was lousy today. Reibe was the better player when in.

That cut by Ross for the easy dump down is exactly the kind of headsy plays we need out of that role. These are the kind of things Stew doesn’t do.
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Hurley during today’s post game presser.

“ Tarris Reeds courage. I mean Tarris is probably a week ahead of when he should have played but that guy was a total warrior today getting on the court “
 
I came away impressed with Smith, Reibe, and Ross especially today. Much better job on the boards. We got beat by guard penetration a fair amount today so that’s one thing to work on, but overall a strong defensive effort. I liked the screening, passing, and movement without the ball today.
 
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SoCalCanine said:
I need to see a replay again because I feel like I saw something different than everybody else. On the replay they showed of the "shot that didn't hit the rim", I swear I saw on the rebounding that someone (couldn't see who or what team) tipped the ball back towards the basket and the ball just barely nicked the rim. If that really happened, the clock would have reset then and the ensuing shot would count. I am doubting what I thought I saw because no one else seemed to see it. But it WOULD explain the call that everyone is arguing about.
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You’re not crazy. I saw that replay and it did look like the ball hit the rim. The announcers said nothing so I assumed it was the camera angle.
 
husky429 said:
This is in the pantheon of stupidest things ever seen on the 'yard.
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His first crush was the freshmen not playing at UConn and now he's gone all in on a bunch of 3rd-6 year transfers (Michigan) being this unstoppable juggernaut and a matchup nightmare for us. He thinks their talent blows away ours which is fine. It's annoying and nonsensical that he does this and that he always takes shots at our guys while doing it but whatever.

It's one thing to critique and be critical of the play of our players (good and bad.) We all do that and we should do that but RuffRuff makes these wild declarations that we only have three plus players on our entire team and now he's questioning the heart of a player on our team who is playing injured. There is no damn reason to do that, it's ridiculous and there is no basis for it.
 
thekollieman said:
Now I’m not following. If it’s a shooting foul at all then it’s gotta be count the basket and he shoots 1.

Edit: I think I understand… the actual time of foul from your perspective (i.e., when the whistle blew) was BEFORE the 2:10 game clock stop time. Thus, it was within the 20 seconds that started at 2:32… can’t (maybe, maybe not) have phantom time to continue the shooting motion, and if not, you can’t count the basket. But he was still shooting a three, so, three shots. Interesting perspective. I appreciate it for sure.
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But again, when you say it's 2:32, that was the time the ball clanged off the rim. The actual time that Reibe gained possession and the 20 second clock started was a second or two later.
 
nomar said:
They can review a play to see if a whistle was blown late. All I'm saying is that it seems totally appropriate for a player to follow the official shot clock and that, in cases where the malfunction prejudiced the team with the ball, the officials should go back in time to whenever it "malfunctioned" -- whether because it erroneously stopped or reset. I would have been really ticked off if we lost possession because of the shot clock operator.

Anyway, we won, the shot was awesome, and the result was awesome. The 11-0 Illinois run wasn't, but a 13-point lead over a good team is a great win any way you slice it.
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This is only if time expired. Then they can go back in time.

I agreed with that and so I wrote that in the post you were responding to.

In this case, they can't go back in time because the 20 seconds had not yet expired when he was fouled.

I'm also not sure of which reset your are talking about. The announcers were confused. The clock operator did not mess up in the first instance; the clock reset when Malachi's shot hit the rim and Reibe came down with the rebound. That was proper and by the book.

What was improper was his clock reset after the Karaban shot.
 
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