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husky429 said:
Anyone without high expectations or not frustrated has their head in the sand. The coach is SUPPOSED to be the guys that stupid drunk fans scream at. He gets paid a huge salary, and part of his role is to be the buffer to insulate these kids from some fan ridiculousness when possible.

I mean, shoot, I got screamed at as a small-time high school coach every game. It's just a part of the job.

I really hate when people blame the players. It's not RJ's fault he chokes on important FTs sometimes, or that AJ doesn't have the ability to finish at the rim. These guys are working hard and doing everything they can for the program. If they have skill deficiencies, it can't be helped at this point.They're still better at basketball than 99.9999% of the planet.
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Who’s fault is it choking on FT’s and missing bunnies then? I wouldn’t blame the coach for that. Those are skills that most certainly can be improved upon and fixed by the player
 
Squeeze said:
It's pretty ridiculous to call Dan Hurley childish for yelling back at someone who screams "**** you, Hurley, you suck." Would you ignore it?

Cut the man some slack.
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I probably wouldn’t ignore it, but that’s why I’m not cut out to be a public figure.

If you’re going to be the public face of a sports team, handling criticism is part of the game (as long as that criticism is within the boundaries of “you suck at your job” and doesn’t cross any real lines).

Then again, it equally reflects poorly on our fan base that people are screaming profanities from the upper bowl at our coach. Inevitably with children in the vicinity.

…That’s what the boneyard is for!
 
8893 said:
Pun intended?
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@Kathy is one of my favorite posters. Pro-UConn and balanced/respected. No harm meant to her. Nuanced pun more about the guy referenced in the post.

Trying to throw a little post-game levity at the Yard after a tough loss. Life is too short. So yes--Intended.
 
Squeeze said:
It's pretty ridiculous to call Dan Hurley childish for yelling back at someone who screams "**** you, Hurley, you suck." Would you ignore it?

Cut the man some slack.
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are you serious man? Either the guy is a professional or he's not, but I don't want a coach doing non-professional things in public that poorly reflect on the University. This isn't the WWE dude.
 
huskyfan224 said:
Who’s fault is it choking on FT’s and missing bunnies then? I wouldn’t blame the coach for that. Those are skills that most certainly can be improved upon and fixed by the player
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Of course it's the players fault they missed shots. But complaining about that is ridiculous--it's not like RJ or anyone else isn't working their tails off.

RJ is getting beat up for 35 minutes a game. The kids is putting his all out there and clearly exhausted right now. He went from a Howard commit to one of the best guards in the big east. The idea that RJ isn't working hard is ludicrous.

It just happened. He missed shots. He doesn't have the mental make-up to hit the right ones.

Blame the coaches for not recruiting another scorer, not having this team ready to play, not putting out guys in positions to score, or being 1-8 in close games. Or trying to fight fans. Whatever.

Once again: the coach is paid millions to take criticism. Some fans are over the top on the 'yard or elsewhere, but it's his job to deal with it.
 
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tcf15 said:
some fans in the upper bowl of an emptying XL Center loudly articulated their feelings as coach Dan Hurley headed to toward the tunnel.
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i think this guy was one of said fans
kansashusky said:
Wasn’t he just on Barstool bragging that he doesn’t care what people and fans think of him?
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The troubling thing here is not as much Dan Hurley's response in the moment - though I think he needs to be able to ignore taunts from frustrated fans - but his response later in the press conference where he doubles down on going "tough guy" with the fans. Not good. Admit your emotions got the better of you in the moment and pledge to do better. There is a pretty low percentage of the time where letting your inner caveman go thermonuclear leads to a positive outcome.
 
husky429 said:
Of course it's the players fault they missed shots. But complaining about that is ridiculous--it's not like RJ or anyone else isn't working their tails off.

RJ is getting beat up for 35 minutes a game. The kids is putting his all out there and clearly exhausted right now. He went from a Howard commit to one of the best guards in the big east. The idea that RJ isn't working hard is ludicrous.

It just happened. He missed shots. He doesn't have the mental make-up to hit the right ones.

Blame the coaches for not recruiting another scorer, not having this team ready to play, not putting out guys in positions to score, or being 1-8 in close games. Or trying to fight fans. Whatever.

Once again: the coach is paid millions to take criticism. Some fans are over the top on the 'yard or elsewhere, but it's his job to deal with it.
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What we worried about all season with Cole finally happened last night. Not sure there's another player in the country who has had the burden placed on him that coach has placed on Cole. He's expected to be our dribbler, scorer, passer, creator, big shot maker, ball pressurer every single game and it finally caught up with him last night. He was spent mentally and physically that entire game.
 
Squeeze said:
It's pretty ridiculous to call Dan Hurley childish for yelling back at someone who screams "**** you, Hurley, you suck." Would you ignore it?

Cut the man some slack.
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I couldn’t agree more.
 
Overall I like Hurley. But at some point, maybe not now, it fair to criticize some elements of his tenor:
1) 3rd place in Big East currently. Not terrible but they were projected at #2 preseason and they have the most challenging part of their conference schedule upcoming playing possibly at the worst they have all season.
2) The past two games our best player has been Whalley, a player from a prior coach never recruited by Hurley
3) Out of all the players Hurley has recruited or brought in through transfer, you can only make a strong case for two players (Sanogo/Bouknight) so far that have seen significant, tangible positive development.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
Swap Martin for Cole and I'd agree with this. RJ is a pretty reliable scorer. He looked a step slow last night, everything was short or overcompensating. It is a huge problem for this team that he has to do as much as he does, night in and night out, for this team to win. It's not realistic to have him check the other team's point guard, run the offense, and be the release valve when they have nothing going, for an entire game. The fact that neither Gaffney nor Diggins can alleviate Cole's burden is a huge problem for this team going forward.

But Martin is the guy who just throws stuff at the rim and hopes its goes in. On nights when his shots are falling it's great and everyone gets excited and Hurley says he's going to play in the NBA but it is not something that can be relied on at all, and when he has nights like last night it's a killer.
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I was commenting specifically on Marquette game #1, but on the season? you are 100% correct. RJ has given us everything on both ends. He's forced into this stuff. I was stating that its not a long term winning offensive option. Martin? I just don't get it. I initially loved his perceived toughness but (and Im going into netherworld controversy here just from game attendance) Im not sure he is as tough a matchup mentally as he is physically.

I'll let you in on my mind think. I would like Polley (or Hawkins preferably, but he just isn't ready) to start instead of .............someone? ............... just for floor balance and not being hampered offensively to start games. But when I really think about it, who are you going to pull for this? Whaley? nope. He's too important to defensive cohesion, AJ? nope he's too important as an RJ pressure release and guards pretty well. Martin? He would be the guy who could play the same minutes off the bench than he does as a starter but his floor countenance(again to me, it's just my read, I could be totally wrong) makes me think that he would be the least out of the 3 willing to accept it. Hard to get a read on this kid. He carries himself in a different way on the floor. This roster handcuffs Hurley a bit.
 
superjohn said:
What we worried about all season with Cole finally happened last night. Not sure there's another player in the country who has had the burden placed on him that coach has placed on Cole. He's expected to be our dribbler, scorer, passer, creator, big shot maker, ball pressurer every single game and it finally caught up with him last night. He was spent mentally and physically that entire game.
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Are there college teams that let guys skip practice so they're fresh for games? Because that seems like the most realistic option for Cole between now and Saturday.
 
superjohn said:
What we worried about all season with Cole finally happened last night. Not sure there's another player in the country who has had the burden placed on him that coach has placed on Cole. He's expected to be our dribbler, scorer, passer, creator, big shot maker, ball pressurer every single game and it finally caught up with him last night. He was spent mentally and physically that entire game.
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Yeah, and to make matters worse when games get tight Hurley’s bench becomes non-existent. We weren’t getting much of anything out of Martin, Polley or Ajax last night….would’ve been nice to get Akok and Hawkins some more minutes if just to change up the look for a bit. We literally had everyone except Whaley have an off night and obviously that can’t happen
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
Are there college teams that let guys skip practice so they're fresh for games? Because that seems like the most realistic option for Cole between now and Saturday.
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Yes, all the time. And we're definitely already doing that. With 3 days between games, the starters might be playing live once. Lots of shooting drills and recovery work during this stretch of the season.

Diggins, Springs, Akok, Gaffney, Hawkins and co. are probably still doing drills live in practice.
 
superjohn said:
What we worried about all season with Cole finally happened last night. Not sure there's another player in the country who has had the burden placed on him that coach has placed on Cole. He's expected to be our dribbler, scorer, passer, creator, big shot maker, ball pressurer every single game and it finally caught up with him last night. He was spent mentally and physically that entire game.
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Great points. He expends so much effort/energy at the defensive end- frequently against the opposing team's best guard- There's not a lot of gas left in the tank at the end of games. Managing his minutes without penalizing the team's performance with his replacements is one of Dan Hurley's biggest coaching challenges. He also has to do all of the offensive-oriented stuff mentioned above and stay out of foul trouble.

Opposing coaches are very cognizant of that and aren't above telling their guards to sell fouls to the refs to get him in foul trouble. Nembhard did last nite and Gillespie is a master at that as well
 
Society as a whole has become saturated with b*****s. Everyone complaining about a loss or how a coach reacted needs to put their big boy pants and realize this is only a game. Does it affect tour life that much, can you not function after a loss? If so you need mental help. Yes we would love it if they won every game but in reality it’s not going to happen. Our fans yelling at our coach who works his ass off to be better, deserve a comment back. Get off your high horses people.
 
Umami Zen said:
Great points. He expends so much effort/energy at the defensive end- frequently against the opposing team's best guard- There's not a lot of gas left in the tank at the end of games. Managing his minutes without penalizing the team's performance with his replacements is one of Dan Hurley's biggest coaching challenges. He also has to do all of the offensive-oriented stuff mentioned above and stay out of foul trouble.

Opposing coaches are very cognizant of that and aren't above telling their guards to sell fouls to the refs to get him in foul trouble. Nembhard did last nite and Gillespie is a master at that as well
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Nembhard pulled the old Kemba/Bazz "throw your head back to sell it" move last night (in the backcourt no less!) which according to the rulebook this year is a flop warning/subsequent technical. He got the call straight up.
 
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Vancat said:
Almost as bad as the OllieWhinyFace. Cartoony.
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I don’t know, kevin just looked whiny, Hurley looks like a toddler. It’s the weirdest thing. That said, I fully accept it, just like I acceptex Calhoun blasting reporters if they ask him dumb questions after a loss.
 
Hurley has issues. Just watch his press conferences if you can stomach them. His mumbling, monotone presentation is weak. He looks totally dejected. There is no confidence or bravado. I hope he's a great coach but he doesn't come across like one.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
This crew should probably skip the "micro" and go straight to the real thing.
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I mean Dan smudges the place with Sage, we are halfway there, right?
maybe we should offer the A. dept. that option next time they come for a 300k upgrade to a hallway at werth (isnt it brand new?!)
 
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