How Far will Stanford Drop & Does Baylor

[UConn Sal]

Actually ND didnt play Stanford. But my point was you said ND should be ahead of Duke, and that Duke hadnt played anyone. So basically you were saying that the better teams that ND has beaten (TAMU, Purdue, and UCLA) were all better teams than California. I disagree with that assessment. Duke also beat a solid Michigan team in Ann Arbor... a team that could possibly finish ahead of Purdue in the Big 10.

You also stated that ND's victories were by total destruction. They beat Purdue pretty badly.... but there games with TAMU and UCLA were close contests.... closer than Duke's game was vs Cal.

Actually ND didnt play Stanford. But my point was you said ND should be ahead of Duke, and that Duke hadnt played anyone. So basically you were saying that the better teams that ND has beaten (TAMU, Purdue, and UCLA) were all better teams than California. I disagree with that assessment. Duke also beat a solid Michigan team in Ann Arbor... a team that could possibly finish ahead of Purdue in the Big 10.

You also stated that ND's victories were by total destruction. They beat Purdue pretty badly.... but there games with TAMU and UCLA were close contests.... closer than Duke's game was vs Cal.

Duke can't hang it's hat on 1 game also if you check out the site realtimerpi.com you will see that Duke's RPI is 2 points less than ND and Duke's SOS is 101 ND's is 27. One needs to check multiple sites to get a better picture of who is playing whom and where they stack up in RPI.

 

[triaddukefan]

Duke can't hang it's hat on 1 game also if you check out the site realtimerpi.com you will see that Duke's RPI is multiple points less than ND. One needs to check multiple sites to get a better picture of who is playing whom and where they stack up in RPI.

All of this will be straightened out in the coming months... and I think Duke will end up with a higher RPI and ranking than ND. But anyway.... If Duke beats ND in the Elite 8.... would you be willing to put Duke ahead of them in your poll ??

 

[UConn Sal]

Actually ND didnt play Stanford. But my point was you said ND should be ahead of Duke, and that Duke hadnt played anyone. So basically you were saying that the better teams that ND has beaten (TAMU, Purdue, and UCLA) were all better teams than California. I disagree with that assessment. Duke also beat a solid Michigan team in Ann Arbor... a team that could possibly finish ahead of Purdue in the Big 10.

You also stated that ND's victories were by total destruction. They beat Purdue pretty badly.... but there games with TAMU and UCLA were close contests.... closer than Duke's game was vs Cal.

Duke can't hang their hat on 1 game their RPI is lower by two than ND and their SOS is 101where as ND is 27. Check out the site realtimeRPI.com if you don't believe the numbers. So again ND stronger than Duke.

 

[UConn Sal]

All of this will be straightened out in the coming months... and I think Duke will end up with a higher RPI and ranking than ND. But anyway.... If Duke beats ND in the Elite 8.... would you be willing to put Duke ahead of them in your poll ??

Sure I hate ND I think they play a dirty game as all UConn fans can attest to but they win games because refs don't call fouls on Diggins. I would love to see Duke cremate ND plus I like duke's coach much better than "little miss Muffet

 

[Tonyc]

Sure I hate ND I think they play a dirty game as all UConn fans can attest to but they win games because refs don't call fouls on Diggins. I would love to see Duke cremate ND plus I like duke's coach much better than "little miss Muffet

I think most UConn fans dislike ND I do after the terrible calls the past 2 seasons. However Duke is not playing Stanford, ND or Baylor . Its hard to rank them above 4 when Baylor UConn ND and Stanford are playing 2-3 of those teams. I think thats fair.

 

[Replicant]

I think most UConn fans dislike ND I do after the terrible calls the past 2 seasons. However Duke is not playing Stanford, ND or Baylor . Its hard to rank them above 4 when Baylor UConn ND and Stanford are playing 2-3 of those teams. I think thats fair.

Stanford dropping to #4 was due to the magnitude of the defeat, how they were exposed as a one player team and the doubts it put into the AP writers minds. If Duke falters in the same manner as Stanford, they'll be punished accordingly.

 

[UConn Sal]

Stanford dropping to #4 was due to the magnitude of the defeat, how they were exposed as a one player team and the doubts it put into the AP writers minds. If Duke falters in the same manner as Stanford, they'll be punished accordingly.

USA Coach's poll has Stanford 3 Duke 4 and I trust the coaches more than the writers, don't you?

 

[Vowelguy]

USA Coach's poll has Stanford 3 Duke 4 and I trust the coaches more than the writers, don't you?

No. The coaches' poll is a joke.

 

[Vowelguy]

I think most UConn fans dislike ND I do after the terrible calls the past 2 seasons.

So, if there was bad officiating, that was ND's fault?

 

[triaddukefan]

USA Coach's poll has Stanford 3 Duke 4 and I trust the coaches more than the writers, don't you?

No, I dont.

 

[easttexastrash]

All this talk about Sims getting hurt and "IF" she couldve played Baylor wouldve won. There are alot of "ifs' in sports and "what ifs" Nobody made any excuses for UConns wins over MD Penn St and Stanford because of their injuries and viruses. Note( Hartley comingback from her injury, Tuck injured Stokes Injured MOJeff with a virus and KML with a injury and virus) UConn still won and it really wasnt that close. Injuries are part of the game and you need to be deep enough to overcome that. When you have Griner and Chiney goes off on her the problem is not Sims its how can Dolsen and UCOnn stop Chiney and Baylor with 6'8 Griner didnt?????? IMO if Baylor is truly number 1 they should not allowed Chiney to go off on them, with the POY guarding her. That tells me theyre not number 1 and perhaps Griner is not POY????

We must have different definitions of "going off." I don't consider 18 points as going off but maybe some do. I guess she "went off" on Baylor and UCONN since she had 18 in both games. Baylor did, however, limit her to 8 rebounds, whereas UCONN allowed her to grab 13 rebounds.

 

[Replicant]

USA Coach's poll has Stanford 3 Duke 4 and I trust the coaches more than the writers, don't you?

It's all subjective and personal opinion until the final game in April.

For now, I'll trust my own eyes and instincts more than any writer or coach who has their own unique biases, to wit...who are the three writers that continue to think Baylor is better than UConn after witnessing the "Massacre at Maples"?!

 

[magical2]

It's all subjective and personal opinion until the final game in April.

For now, I'll trust my own eyes and instincts more than any writer or coach who has their own unique biases, to wit...who are the three writers that continue to think Baylor is better than UConn after witnessing the "Massacre at Maples"?!

I agree with you! I know one of the writers was from Waco Not sure who the others are?
Ira
I do think that we are 1 and 2. If Baylor had not lost they would have deserved to remain as #1,but
they did lose even though by 2 with Sims only playing 4 mins. I thought the loss should have made us #1,but obviousely the voters thought otherwise. I remember the thread discussing this after the game.
I feel the way I did prior to the season. Baylor and US are 1 and 2 and will battle for the top spot on Feb 18th The 2 teams are seperrated by a gap from 3 and 4.

 

[UConn Sal]

No. The coaches' poll is a joke.

I think you are wrong the writers have their favorites, for example Voepel never writes anything good about UConn or Geno and most writers have their favorites due to the media market they write for. It is my understanding that the coaches can't vote for their own team.So again I think you are wrong.

 

[cardfan]

I think you are wrong the writers have their favorites, for example Voepel never writes anything good about UConn or Geno and most writers have their favorites due to the media market they write for. It is my understanding that the coaches can't vote for their own team.So again I think you are wrong.

You can easily search Mechelle's archived columns on ESPN using UConn and/or Geno. I found over 100 columns overs the years. Some great stuff.

Coaches often ask their assistants for feedback regarding voting given they see opposing teams more, especially for scouting purposes.

 

[Vowelguy]

I think you are wrong the writers have their favorites, for example Voepel never writes anything good about UConn or Geno and most writers have their favorites due to the media market they write for. It is my understanding that the coaches can't vote for their own team.So again I think you are wrong.

The coaches poll sticks to a narrow "win=move up; lose=move down" philosophy, regardless of quality of win/loss. There are also numerous reports of the rankings being done by assistants or the AD. Not to mention that coaches are usually too busy to watch many games.
The coaches poll is undoubtedly worse than the writers poll in all sports.