Here’s a bombshell

[UConnRock]

But can we not pretend that DC, NY metro, and Boston (driving the economy in the region) are college football hotbeds.

We also cannot pretend that DC, NY metro, and Boston are not some of the prime locations for careers for alums of numerous B1G schools

 

[Chin Diesel]

Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado and Cal should be offered B10 entry. Ton of natural rivalry games.

It will be more than 20 schools IMO.

Utah and Colorado would be interesting to bridge the gap between current schools and the new LA schools. But, I think they go Big 12.

 

[Fishy]

Where it gets interesting as the gap between the SEC/B1G and ACC gets astronomical and Clemson/FSU/etc cannot survive waiting until the GOR expires....is how many ACC schools would be required to vote to dissolve the conference and eliminate the conference and GOR entirely? Is it 60% of the schools? 75% of the schools?

Maybe there is a coordinated killing of the ACC to get enough schools involved to just dissolve the conference entirely. Something like:

B1G
Virginia
UNC
Georgia Tech
Miami
Notre Dame
Duke

SEC
Virginia Tech
NC State
Florida State
Clemson
Pittsburgh


That would be 11 of the 14 ACC schools (more than 75%) voting to dissolve the conference (and the GOR). Is that a possibility?

Realistically, about three or four ACC schools in addition to Notre Dame would have appeal to the Big 10/SEC….

UNC, UVa and Georgia Tech for the Big Ten and UNC, UVa and maybe if you squint and UNC is off the board, NC State for the SEC. Notre Dame has universal appeal.

The rest would no doubt vote to keep the conference intact. And plus, there is a GOR encumbering all, so the conference is not going to dissolve in any event.

 

[UConnRock]

I think you only get Stanford and then take UW for the Seattle market. Cal doesn't bring anything by itself and if you can only get one of Cal or Stanford, you take Stanford.

Agree that UW makes much more sense than Cal. B1G would get LA, San Fran, and Seattle.

 

[aburks41]

When the ACC gets poached, I cannot wait for BC to come crawling back to the Big East only for UConn to tell them to go f themselves.

 

[Fishy]

Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado and Cal should be offered B10 entry. Ton of natural rivalry games.

It will be more than 20 schools IMO.

You are thinking like a fan which means you’re on the wrong path.

 

[Ha Who]

Crazy talk now for your amusement

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Chin Diesel]

Crazy talk now for your amusement

Drugs are incredible nowadays.

 

[Ha Who]

The move would include all athletic teams except for beach volleyball, according to the Los Angeles Times.

 

[bendm]

if Big10 isnt done then it's UW and Oregon next. if they want to go to 20 then it's Stanford and Colorado after that. those are the 4 biggest football programs and/or markets remaining.

the 6 leftover PAC teams are all big state schools with big enough alumi bases to merge with the big12 creating an 18 team conference. the thought of Cal flying to orlando to play UCF makes me want to vomit.

 

[McLovin]

if Big10 isnt done then it's UW and Oregon next. if they want to go to 20 then it's Stanford and Colorado after that. those are the 4 biggest football programs and/or markets remaining.

the 6 leftover PAC teams have enough geographical appeal to merge with the big12 creating an 18 team conference. the thought of Cal flying to orlando to play UCF makes me want to vomit.

How about that juicy Oregon State vs Cincinnati match-up? Every fans dream!

 

[UConnJim]

You have to assume more Pac 12 schools will be going. The news of USC and UCLA to the Big 10 will push other Pac 12 schools to beg to join. I would assume Stanford/Cal/Oregon/Washington/Arizona/Colorado/Utah are begging to join. Washington St./Oregon St./Arizona St. have no change of getting an invite. Does this put the pressure on ND and the ACC GORs?

 

[gtcam]

Crazy talk now for your amusement

I know cannabis is a lot stronger than it was 30 years ago and is now legal in lots of places but talk like this makes one long for the good old days

 

[How Sway?!]

The move would include all athletic teams except for beach volleyball, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Guess we will never know if USC beach volleyball could do it on a cold rainy Tuesday night at Lansing Michigan

 

[Waquoit]

Crazy talk now for your amusement

 

[Storrs South]

At this point, I am rooting for FSU & Clemson to find a way out of that GOR and accelerate the poaching of the ACC.

Otherwise it's gonna be awhile before anyone leaves that conference.

 

[tzznandrew]

if Big10 isnt done then it's UW and Oregon next. if they want to go to 20 then it's Stanford and Colorado after that. those are the 4 biggest football programs and/or markets remaining.

the 6 leftover PAC teams are all big state schools with big enough alumi bases to merge with the big12 creating an 18 team conference. the thought of Cal flying to orlando to play UCF makes me want to vomit.

If they're going West, they'd be foolish not to take all of Cali (USC-Stanford-UCLA-Cal) plus Washington and Oregon. It locks down the West Coast and allows for those teams to have rivalries and not horrible travel.

 

[CL82]

You can no longer say that with any degree of certainty.

 

[superjohn]

If they're going West, they'd be foolish not to take all of Cali (USC-Stanford-UCLA-Cal) plus Washington and Oregon. It locks down the West Coast and allows for those teams to have rivalries and not horrible travel.

They've shown over and over throughout realignment they don't care about rivalries and travel.

 

[SoFla Steve]

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work.

The Big 10 and SEC cannot take any ACC schools as they have pledged their rights to the conference until 2037.

Why are Oklahoma and Texas waiting until 2025 to move to the SEC? That’s when their GOR expires. Why would UCLA and USC be leaving in 2024? That is when their GOR expires.

The ACC is where it will be. They can add, but they won’t see subtraction.

I remember reading that if enough teams leave the ACC, the GoR becomes invalid, however, I confess that I don't know how many teams it takes to invalidate the agreement since the conference won't release it to the public. I think all the major conference moves will occur well before this decade is done.

 

[CL82]

I think this could be a trap for UConn. The ACC will not survive, but may try to make a preemptive move to "protect" their league in the short term. Would have to assume UConn would be an ideal candidate to add / backfill.

Have to be careful accepting any invite extended our way that isn't the SEC (never happening) or BIG (unlikely) that doesn't have some sort of protection for the basketball team when the ACC implodes.

Are they gonna trap us by paying us nine times our current media rights? Because that’s the kind of trap I think I can live with.

 

[Palatine]

No matter what happens...it's a safe bet it isn't good for UConn.

 

[UCFBfan]

I know ND is not a full ACC member in football and they only play 5(?) ACC games a year. However, they were the only team not to have a set three teams to play each season now that divisions are gone. It's likely so everyone can play them at some point. However, maybe it's because the ACC knew they were leaving for the B1G....hmmm....lol! Let the insane theories roll

 

[UConnRock]

Big 12 would be crazy not to add Utah, Colorado, Arizona and AZ State. Conference would stretch from WV and UCF to Arizona. Adding Arizona would keep Kansas happy with a quality basketball team added.

 

[JeepCSC]

Exactly. I've been of the belief for well over a decade that the SEC wants to have a presence in Virginia and North Carolina at some point and that Va Tech and NC St fit culturally (their fan bases are more southern than UVA, UNC) better with the SEC.

UNC and UVA have very Southern fanbases. Just more Ashley Wilkes than Jed Clampett.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I put this in the Key Tweets thread on the Realignment board last week....

FOX and ESPN split up the major conferences, each taking half and creating a B1G brand and an SEC brand. Everyone else falls under their umbrella.

If the B1G and BTN, along with FOX, took an umbrella approach and had the P12 and BE under their umbrella, it would create a national TV audience. B1G and P12 for football with hopefully a UConn game or two mixed in, and then a full basketball reach. Very strong in Northeast, upper midwest and west coast, not as strong in south, southeast and Texas.

Then, Disney takes the ACC, SEC and Big12 and creates a parallel network, stronger in the southeast, Texas and Mid-Atlantic and weaker in Northeast east upper Midwest and west coast.

It would almost be like NFL with an AFC package and an NFC package.

 

[JeepCSC]

I know ND is not a full ACC member in football and they only play 5(?) ACC games a year. However, they were the only team not to have a set three teams to play each season now that divisions are gone. It's likely so everyone can play them at some point. However, maybe it's because the ACC knew they were leaving for the B1G....hmmm....lol! Let the insane theories roll

They’d have to break the GOR. Speaking of which, did the PAC not have one or was it in a reset mode for a new contract?

 

[UConnRock]

No matter what happens...it's a safe bet it isn't good for UConn.

The best hope for UConn is the ACC which is the most stable with its GOR. And the BIG which has yet to show any interest to add another eastern team. Seems like UConn may be left out again.

 

[aburks41]

At this point, I am rooting for FSU & Clemson to find a way out of that GOR and accelerate the poaching of the ACC.

Otherwise it's gonna be awhile before anyone leaves that conference.

If you are Clemson, UNC, ND, FSU how are you not doing everything in your power right now to break that GOR? They see the writing on the wall, and they don't want to be the odd man out. The clear pecking order will be SEC/B1G, Big 12 (once they poach the remaining PAC teams) and then the ACC. Those schools are not going to be cool with making $20M/yr while the SEC/B1G are making $50M+. That GOR will be broken, and it's gonna happen soon.