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Here’s a bombshell

District-Husky said:
I would think USC, UCLA, Cal, and Stanford are a package deal.
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I think you only get Stanford and then take UW for the Seattle market. Cal doesn't bring anything by itself and if you can only get one of Cal or Stanford, you take Stanford.
 
Ports21 said:
Let's say we do get 2 super conferences with 20 teams...

Current or Future SEC:
1. Alabama
2. Auburn
3. Florida
4. Arkansas
5. Missouri
6. South Carolina
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. Vanderbilt
10. Texas A&M
11. Ole Miss
12. Miss State
13. Kentucky
14. LSU
15. Oklahoma (joining in 24)
16. Texas (joining in 24)
New Teams:
1.
2.
3.
4.


Current or Future BIG:
1. Ohio St
2. Michigan
3. Michigan State
4. Indiana
5. Penn State
6. Nebraska
7. Illinois
8. Northwestern
9. Minnesota
10. Maryland
11. Iowa
12. Wisconsin
13. Purdue
14. Rutgers
15. USC (joining in 24)
16. UCLA (joining in 24)
New Teams:
1
2
3
4



Top options to move:

Definite Appeal: Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Notre Dame

Not sure who else would be filling.

It's all football driven -- basketball will have very little to do with this.
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This begs the question of whether of not all of the current B1G and SEC schools get grandfathered in. If they are going to mega conferences, are they sticking with a Vanderbilt in the SEC, or going with a school in a different recruiting grounds like a UVA?

The bottom feeders are going to be cut off in these leagues. Especially if they overlap in regions where the league on already present.
 
Fishy said:
Not even sure they will get to the road block…what does Clemson or FSU do for the SEC in terms of media rights? Not much.

Now, adding schools in NC and VA - that’s another story.

But again, the GOR makes that academic for a long time.
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Exactly. I've been of the belief for well over a decade that the SEC wants to have a presence in Virginia and North Carolina at some point and that Va Tech and NC St fit culturally (their fan bases are more southern than UVA, UNC) better with the SEC.
 
Stanford is a huge fish for the B1G to bring in if there is interest. Incredible academics and a depth and diversity of Olympic sport championship athletics that few colleges come close to matching. We can only hope that the B1G move to the west will lead to a desire to balance out the geography of the conference and add one or two teams in the east.

UConn has a lot to offer with M and W hoops, other quality women's sports, baseball and hopefully an improving football team. The B1G question is whether UConn's M & W hockey programs (that PAC-12 schools do not offer) is attractive to the B1G. The B1G must know how they could lock down the NYC market with UConn. Say what you want of ACC and SEC school, but their media markets pale in comparison to the Hartford and NYC markets even though the ACC and SEC markets may get a higher % of viewers. If not the B1G, we want continued realignment activity as one never knows where the chips may fall.
 
I wonder if the next big shoe to drop is the two super conferences telling the NCAA “hey, it’s been a blast, but we’ve got it from here”.

As for the ACC GOR, I assume at some price a school can buy back their interest. Assuming the differential between getting in with the SEC/Big or not justifies the price.

Agree that I don’t think the SEC needs FSU or Clemson. People keep confusing markets with success on the field. NC and Virginia are the big incremental markets to grab.
 
UConnRock said:
Stanford is a huge fish for the B1G to bring in if there is interest. Incredible academics and a depth and diversity of Olympic sport championship athletics that few colleges come close to matching. We can only hope that the B1G move to the west will lead to a desire to balance out the geography of the conference and add one or two teams in the east.

UConn has a lot to offer with M and W hoops, other quality women's sports, baseball and hopefully an improving football team. The B1G question is whether UConn's M & W hockey programs (that PAC-12 schools do not offer) is attractive to the B1G. The B1G must know how they could lock down the NYC market with UConn. Say what you want of ACC and SEC school, but their media markets pale in comparison to the Hartford and NYC markets even though the ACC and SEC markets may get a higher % of viewers. If not the B1G, we want continued realignment activity as one never knows where the chips may fall.
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Uconn needs to find a way to get AAU membership. The University has been investing heavily in growth including a new STEM building. Would love to hear an update from Uconn administration on status
 
I would assume the ACC GOR could be overturned if more than half the schools voted to do away with it. When everything is getting blown up like this, I think you're going to see a lot of schools like UNC, UVA, Clemson, Florida St. wanting out. The only ones holding onto the GOR will be the likes of Wake Forest, NC State, Duke, BC.....they may not have enough to keep it in place if over 50% of the teams will get poached.
 
The interesting prospect is that if the B1G can also get Stanford it would be adding two teams (USC and Stanford) that are traditional rivals on Notre Dame's independent schedule. ND also played Purdue every year until 2014 and Michigan St. until 2013.
 
Hurleyman216 said:
I would assume the ACC GOR could be overturned if more than half the schools voted to do away with it. When everything is getting blown up like this, I think you're going to see a lot of schools like UNC, UVA, Clemson, Florida St. wanting out. The only ones holding onto the GOR will be the likes of Wake Forest, NC State, Duke, BC.....they may not have enough to keep it in place if over 50% of the teams will get poached.
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This is kind of a "prisoner's dilemma" in reverse.

The thing is it doesn't appear that there are enough schools that would believe they would absolutely be on the winning end of a GOR breakup to accomplish this.
 
Fishy said:
But again, the GOR makes that academic for a long time.
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Where it gets interesting as the gap between the SEC/B1G and ACC gets astronomical and Clemson/FSU/etc cannot survive waiting until the GOR expires....is how many ACC schools would be required to vote to dissolve the conference and eliminate the conference and GOR entirely? Is it 60% of the schools? 75% of the schools?

Maybe there is a coordinated killing of the ACC to get enough schools involved to just dissolve the conference entirely. Something like:

B1G
Virginia
UNC
Georgia Tech
Miami
Notre Dame
Duke

SEC
Virginia Tech
NC State
Florida State
Clemson
Pittsburgh


That would be 11 of the 14 ACC schools (more than 75%) voting to dissolve the conference (and the GOR). Is that a possibility?
 
Ports21 said:
Let's say we do get 2 super conferences with 20 teams...

Current or Future SEC:
1. Alabama
2. Auburn
3. Florida
4. Arkansas
5. Missouri
6. South Carolina
7. Georgia
8. Tennessee
9. Vanderbilt
10. Texas A&M
11. Ole Miss
12. Miss State
13. Kentucky
14. LSU
15. Oklahoma (joining in 24)
16. Texas (joining in 24)
New Teams:
1.
2.
3.
4.


Current or Future BIG:
1. Ohio St
2. Michigan
3. Michigan State
4. Indiana
5. Penn State
6. Nebraska
7. Illinois
8. Northwestern
9. Minnesota
10. Maryland
11. Iowa
12. Wisconsin
13. Purdue
14. Rutgers
15. USC (joining in 24)
16. UCLA (joining in 24)
New Teams:
1
2
3
4



Top options to move:

Definite Appeal: Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Notre Dame

Not sure who else would be filling.

It's all football driven -- basketball will have very little to do with this.
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Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado and Cal should be offered B10 entry. Ton of natural rivalry games.

It will be more than 20 schools IMO.
 
WingU-Conn said:
But can we not pretend that DC, NY metro, and Boston (driving the economy in the region) are college football hotbeds.
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We also cannot pretend that DC, NY metro, and Boston are not some of the prime locations for careers for alums of numerous B1G schools
 
Rich said:
Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Utah, Colorado and Cal should be offered B10 entry. Ton of natural rivalry games.

It will be more than 20 schools IMO.
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Utah and Colorado would be interesting to bridge the gap between current schools and the new LA schools. But, I think they go Big 12.
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
Where it gets interesting as the gap between the SEC/B1G and ACC gets astronomical and Clemson/FSU/etc cannot survive waiting until the GOR expires....is how many ACC schools would be required to vote to dissolve the conference and eliminate the conference and GOR entirely? Is it 60% of the schools? 75% of the schools?

Maybe there is a coordinated killing of the ACC to get enough schools involved to just dissolve the conference entirely. Something like:

B1G
Virginia
UNC
Georgia Tech
Miami
Notre Dame
Duke

SEC
Virginia Tech
NC State
Florida State
Clemson
Pittsburgh


That would be 11 of the 14 ACC schools (more than 75%) voting to dissolve the conference (and the GOR). Is that a possibility?
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Realistically, about three or four ACC schools in addition to Notre Dame would have appeal to the Big 10/SEC….

UNC, UVa and Georgia Tech for the Big Ten and UNC, UVa and maybe if you squint and UNC is off the board, NC State for the SEC. Notre Dame has universal appeal.

The rest would no doubt vote to keep the conference intact. And plus, there is a GOR encumbering all, so the conference is not going to dissolve in any event.
 

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