Has the gag order been lifted?

[J187Money]

If the middle manager ended up being trash absolutely. Except in corporations nobody has contracts and people just get fired and that's that. But if corporations had to do it, I am absolutely sure they would.

Most people at senior levels have contracts (depends on the industry but generally). And sometimes they just want to get a guy and they manufacture a reason.

 

[Paesano]

R u?

Do you really want to find out? Do you really want that information made public if you are wrong.

 

[August_West]

Do you really want to find out? Do you really want that information made public if you are wrong.

Sure. Why not?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You have a wild imagination

So you are arguing that the university shouldn't have to pay Ollie, but they are not trying to avoid paying Ollie. Which is it?

 

[JMick]

So you are arguing that the university shouldn't have to pay Ollie, but they are not trying to avoid paying Ollie. Which is it?

There's a difference between firing someone and trying to "destroy" them

 

[Paesano]

There's a difference between firing someone and trying to "destroy" them

Drama queens...

 

[whaler11]

LOL

Attorney defends Glen Miller's role in NCAA investigation

This guy Coric is painful to watch.

In the same article he is quoted contradicting himself:

Glen was happy to answer the questions because he committed no violations.

then

Anyone who was there would tell you that Glen was a reluctant witness.

Amateur hour.

UConn liked the way he answered their questions and lo and behold the NCAA got in touch. The coincidences sure do pile up.

When do they release the transcripts from the rat’s wife?

 

[Huskyforlife]

Thought this was meant for the Cesspool...

 

[whaler11]

Thought this was meant for the Cesspool...

 

[Ewekon]

It just isn't interesting anymore and especially saying the same Damn thing across 4 different threads

 

[nelsonmuntz]

There's a difference between firing someone and trying to "destroy" them

Either UConn is trying to win, or it isn't. If UConn is going to do this, then they should leave a smoking hole in the ground where Ollie's career used to be. The worst thing they can do is go to court and lose.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Drama queens...

In this limited instance, regrettably that phrase is more true than not.

There's a lot of mass hysteria on naked display and given how grounded in unsubstantiated assertions it all is, it's not very helpful toward settlement which is the wide preference of people on differing sides of the fence.

Those who are capable of chilling out should give it some serious consideration. The surprising seeming alliances that have developed are interesting, even entertaining, to watch (and mostly understandable) but they aren't helpful and the give unhealthy encouragement to those who cannot exercise self-control.

This is just a probably futile but no less worthy attempt to reign things in on a Sunday morning.

 

[pepband99]

It just isn't interesting anymore and especially saying the same Damn thing across 4 different threads

...especially when the same damn people say the same damn thing and damn everyone who doesn't agree. Yawn.

newsflash - people don't act like saints in the presence of an 8 figure contract. Film at 11.

 

[Stinger92860]

Especially when there is more they could let slip out out about him.

More?

 

[Yardigan]

More?

That's what keeps it entertaini-, er, interesting. Not "more", but "more?"

 

[Danzz]

Either UConn is trying to win, or it isn't. If UConn is going to do this, then they should leave a smoking hole in the ground where Ollie's career used to be. The worst thing they can do is go to court and lose.

Moot. This is never getting to court. It would be the dumbest thing for either side.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

...especially when the same damn people say the same damn thing and damn everyone who doesn't agree. Yawn.

newsflash - people don't act like saints in the presence of an 8 figure contract. Film at 11.

8 figure contracts came into being because the numbers justified them. The numbers were generated by broadcast revenue derived from mass audiences. Mass audiences like intrigue and drama. Michael Jackson likes his popcorn.

Sometimes the competition (and that's what this is) is more compelling than a Ray Allen dunk mix, a walk in nature, fresh-picked strawberries, your favorite pizza/beer/bourbon/BBQ, nurturing relationships, or any number of available life pleasures.

But I'm repeating myself as well ...

 

[David 76]

More?

Allegedly, yes. But I won't repeat rumors because it only makes it worse for Ollie and UConn. But they don't seem to be NCAA things.

 

[TJT]

Either UConn is trying to win, or it isn't. If UConn is going to do this, then they should leave a smoking hole in the ground where Ollie's career used to be. The worst thing they can do is go to court and lose.

By that logic, one would think the option of KO going nuclear on UConn is there as well. One would think he has plenty of knowledge of things done by other head coaches in Storrs that the school would not want made public.

The scorched earth strategy hurts the parties more than it helps them. What good is it if both get destroyed?

 

[JMick]

By that logic, one would think the option of KO going nuclear on UConn is there as well. One would think he has plenty of knowledge of things done by other head coaches in Storrs that the school would not want made public.

The scorched earth strategy hurts the parties more than it helps them. What good is it if both get destroyed?

Yes. We shall call it the UConn Cold War.

 

[August_West]

By that logic, one would think the option of KO going nuclear on UConn is there as well. One would think he has plenty of knowledge of things done by other head coaches in Storrs that the school would not want made public.

The scorched earth strategy hurts the parties more than it helps them. What good is it if both get destroyed?

Gee who could've predicted that? It's almost like trying to weasel out of a buyout could possibly cause some bigger issues?

UConn path of least resistance was to get rid of Ollie pay the buyout and hire Hurley.

They chose a different strategy. One that may introduce some unsavory stuff.

" Threading the needle" ( was that chiefs originally?) Is really the most apt description of this. They may pull it off yet. We'll see. If that needle isn't threaded it's going to be fugly.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

By that logic, one would think the option of KO going nuclear on UConn is there as well. One would think he has plenty of knowledge of things done by other head coaches in Storrs that the school would not want made public.

The scorched earth strategy hurts the parties more than it helps them. What good is it if both get destroyed?

Accusing Ollie of cheating is scorched Earth. What's left? Accusing him of harrassing female employees? Might as well throw that out there too at this point, even if it is not true.

That is about all the leverage the school has left. They can't threaten to slam Ollie in the press since they have already slammed Ollie in the press.

 

[superjohn]

Accusing Ollie of cheating is scorched Earth. What's left? Accusing him of harrassing female employees? Might as well throw that out there too at this point, even if it is not true.

That is about all the leverage the school has left. They can't threaten to slam Ollie in the press since they have already slammed Ollie in the press.

These are rules he's broken which breached his contract, Ollie hasn't denied breaking these rules. They haven't at all gone scorched earth on him.

 

[August_West]

These are rules he's broken which breached his contract, Ollie hasn't denied breaking these rules. They haven't at all gone scorched earth on him.

Yes they did.

 

[intlzncster]

By that logic, one would think the option of KO going nuclear on UConn is there as well. One would think he has plenty of knowledge of things done by other head coaches in Storrs that the school would not want made public.

The scorched earth strategy hurts the parties more than it helps them. What good is it if both get destroyed?

If he ever, ever wanted any sort of job in basketball again, he would be wise to not go that route. See Miller, Glen, who's only employed at a lowest level 1st year DIII program because of an extraordinarily loyal old friend, who happens to have unlimited cache.

While not a good look, it's just not the same for a school as it is for a coach.

 

[Chief00]

Gee who could've predicted that? It's almost like trying to weasel out of a buyout could possibly cause some bigger issues?

UConn path of least resistance was to get rid of Ollie pay the buyout and hire Hurley.

They chose a different strategy. One that may introduce some unsavory stuff.

" Threading the needle" ( was that chiefs originally?) Is really the most apt description of this. They may pull it off yet. We'll see. If that needle isn't threaded it's going to be fugly.

Yeah, “threading the needle” were my words and perhaps others used them as well.

I have no idea what Miller was trying to accomplish in his testimony?

He has NCAA immunity but who will hire him, leaving that D3 situation aside, so what good is the immunity?

Between KO’s and GM’s bizarre post season off court moves - it makes it clearer why we didn’t win many games the last two years. These guys react emotionally and have no plan.

 

[CL82]

If he ever, ever wanted any sort of job in basketball again, he would be wise to not go that route. See Miller, Glen, who's only employed at a lowest level 1st year DIII program because of an extraordinarily loyal old friend, who happens to have unlimited cache.

While not a good look, it's just not the same for a school as it is for a coach.

The smart play would have been to negotiate an acceptable settlement number right from the get go. Then UConn and Ollie could have "threaded the needle" in a manner that worked for both of them. Not sure why that didn't happen when it is the obvious optimized solution.

That said, that ship has sailed. There is a narrow optimal window for a negotiated solution before arbitration or litigation. Unless this is being badly mismanaged or the parties have vastly differing viewpoints as to value, we will have a resolution soon.

 

[Yardigan]

The smart play would have been to negotiate an acceptable settlement number right from the get go. Then UConn and Ollie could have "threaded the needle" in a manner that worked for both of them. Not sure why that didn't happen when it is the obvious optimized solution.

That said, that ship has sailed. There is a narrow optimal window for a negotiated solution before arbitration or litigation.
Unless this is
a) being badly mismanaged or
b) the parties have vastly differing viewpoints as to value,

we will have a resolution soon.

"b)" looks like the leader in the clubhpuse....

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

The scorched earth strategy hurts the parties more than it helps them. What good is it if both get destroyed?

Temporary spike in ratings.
Now, why we here would want that is a better question.

 

[Jim]

The smart play would have been to negotiate an acceptable settlement number right from the get go. Then UConn and Ollie could have "threaded the needle" in a manner that worked for both of them. Not sure why that didn't happen when it is the obvious optimized solution.

Any early settlement where UCONN doesn't just roll over and give Ollie the stated contractual amount would get scrutinized and be open to a FOIA request. The alleged violations would have become public and the crapfest we now find ourselves would have still occurred. The best that can be hoped for at this point is for neither party to go nuclear so as to leave nothing left to salvage.