GoT Season Seven

[CTMike]

'Influencing' or 'orchestrating' are better words. If you are influencing/orchestrating, as Varys and Littlefinger are doing, you are part of The Game. You don't think Tywin Lannister was a player? All you need to do is influence or control to get your name in the hat.

You are right, those are better descriptors. But have some self awareness- influencing and orchestrating are great roles without the risk of actually sitting on the Iron Throne. Being king is pretty straightforward: have the right bloodline or be the guy that kills the previous bloodline. Littlefinger and Varys are neither. But again- kudos to them for making the most of the hands they've been dealt. They just shouldn't delude themselves that they have a real shot at the Throne.

 

[Scalito]

You are right, those are better descriptors. But have some self awareness- influencing and orchestrating are great roles without the risk of actually sitting on the Iron Throne. Being king is pretty straightforward: have the right bloodline or be the guy that kills the previous bloodline. Littlefinger and Varys are neither. But again- kudos to them for making the most of the hands they've been dealt. They just shouldn't delude themselves that they have a real shot at the Throne.

In a just world Littlefinger would.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yeah, they're the winning side. There's never been any question on that. Doesn't change the fact that Danny is as worthless as a box of rocks and shoulda been killed off long ago.

You sell Dany short. She was worthless, but she's learned well. You have to give her props for burning up all the Dothraki leaders and walking out alive (and naked). She keeps getting better at this, just as Jon does.

 

[CTMike]

You sell Dany short. She was worthless, but she's learned well. You have to give her props for burning up all the Dothraki leaders and walking out alive (and naked). She keeps getting better at this, just as Jon does.

Sansa too

 

[HuskyHawk]

In a just world Littlefinger would.

Nah, he's a sniveling little whiner. Not a leader of men in any way shape or form.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Sansa too

Better...yeah, but she started so low that she's still way behind. I mean it doesn't get worse than this.

 

[August_West]

You sell Dany short. She was worthless, but she's learned well. You have to give her props for burning up all the Dothraki leaders and walking out alive (and naked). She keeps getting better at this, just as Jon does.

Sansa too

You guys bring up something that gnaws at me in regards to Dany and Sansa. I think there is an evil side to both that are emerging for us to see. That may be Martins final statement. That absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You can see Tyrion bristling at some of Dany's decisions already. He keeps mentioning her fathers insanity to her as a way of getting her to think, and so far shes been pretty compliant to Tyrions counsel but you can see her getting a taste for blood. She does have a pretty decent ruthless streak that may become more developed.

Sansa. This first episode is a hard turning point in Sansa's storyline that has been mildly at play since her escape from Ramsay. Sansa is a vindictive bitch who wants to make people suffer. She made victim noises for 5.5 seasons and has finally snapped. It was all right in front of us. Her questioning Jon. Her preferring Revenge to common sense in the case of the Umbers and Karstarks. And most of all that little bit about her talking about Cersei and saying "I learned alot from her" . Sansa is BECOMING Cersei.

And if you need anymore proof I saw this on twitter yesterday, do you think it is coincidence in that in the exact scene where Sansa talks about "I learned alot from her" that she is looking like this?

 

[CTMike]

You guys bring up something that gnaws at me in regards to Dany and Sansa. I think there is an evil side to both that are emerging for us to see. That may be Martins final statement. That absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You can see Tyrion bristling at some of Dany's decisions already. He keeps mentioning her fathers insanity to her as a way of getting her to think, and so far shes been pretty compliant to Tyrions counsel but you can see her getting a taste for blood. She does have a pretty decent ruthless streak that may become more developed.

Sansa. This first episode is a hard turning point in Sansa's storyline that has been mildly at play since her escape from Ramsay. Sansa is a vindictive bitch who wants to make people suffer. She made victim noises for 5.5 seasons and has finally snapped. It was all right in front of us. Her questioning Jon. Her preferring Revenge to common sense in the case of the Umbers and Karstarks. And most of all that little bit about her talking about Cersei and saying "I learned alot from her" . Sansa is BECOMING Cersei.

And if you need anymore proof I saw this on twitter yesterday, do you think it is coincidence in that in the exact scene where Sansa talks about "I learned alot from her" that she is looking like this?

Maybe... juuuuust maybe... there's room for Sansa to grow up to be somewhere between the naive little girl in Season 1 and Cersei.

 

[OneTrickPony]

Yup. Stupid Danny just bounces around the Far East, barely interacting with anyone in the main story, and she is going to swoop in on dragons and rule.

On dragons...the key phrase...

 

[August_West]

On dragons...the key phrase...

If was a GoT character, who would he be?

I would say Theon.

 

[John]

If was a GoT character, who would he be?

I would say Theon.

He would be the Pod to your Brienne

 

[OneTrickPony]

If was a GoT character, who would he be?

I would say Theon.

With attachments or without...?

would have a lot of Ned in him...but with a wiser wife who got him out of King's Landing and into a great old castle by the Wall just as a record summer was coming...I'm thinking she looks a bit like Rob's wife, but she attended the Citadel disguised as a boy and learned all their secrets...she's hooked up with your wife, a gypsy princess, and they sell dragonglass crystals at Minstrel shows where her husband, a pretty fair hand on the lute, sells potent herbal potions behind the tent between sets...

 

[nelsonmuntz]

If was a GoT character, who would he be?

I would say Theon.

is definitely a Maester. Not Pycelle, but some other Maester, like the guy at Winterfell. Smart enough, but obedient.

You are Robert Baratheon.

This topic is worth its own thread, although it wouldn't make it three pages before getting locked and deleted.

 

[Excalibur]

Biggest question is who is Hodor?

 

[intlzncster]

You guys bring up something that gnaws at me in regards to Dany and Sansa. I think there is an evil side to both that are emerging for us to see. That may be Martins final statement. That absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You can see Tyrion bristling at some of Dany's decisions already. He keeps mentioning her fathers insanity to her as a way of getting her to think, and so far shes been pretty compliant to Tyrions counsel but you can see her getting a taste for blood. She does have a pretty decent ruthless streak that may become more developed.

Sansa. This first episode is a hard turning point in Sansa's storyline that has been mildly at play since her escape from Ramsay. Sansa is a vindictive bitch who wants to make people suffer. She made victim noises for 5.5 seasons and has finally snapped. It was all right in front of us. Her questioning Jon. Her preferring Revenge to common sense in the case of the Umbers and Karstarks. And most of all that little bit about her talking about Cersei and saying "I learned alot from her" . Sansa is BECOMING Cersei.

And if you need anymore proof I saw this on twitter yesterday, do you think it is coincidence in that in the exact scene where Sansa talks about "I learned alot from her" that she is looking like this?

Sansa naturally looks like a white walker.

 

[John]

Biggest question is who is Hodor?

Trump train rolls on...

 

[Deepster]

Who would I be? Drunken wisecracking imp Tyrian or sadistic torturer Ramsay? Prolly Ramsay.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I would like to think I am Renly, but I am probably more Stannis.

 

[Excalibur]

Who would I be? Drunken wisecracking imp Tyrian or sadistic torturer Ramsay? Prolly Ramsay.

Dontos . . .

 

[HuskyHawk]

You guys bring up something that gnaws at me in regards to Dany and Sansa. I think there is an evil side to both that are emerging for us to see. That may be Martins final statement. That absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You can see Tyrion bristling at some of Dany's decisions already. He keeps mentioning her fathers insanity to her as a way of getting her to think, and so far shes been pretty compliant to Tyrions counsel but you can see her getting a taste for blood. She does have a pretty decent ruthless streak that may become more developed.

Sansa. This first episode is a hard turning point in Sansa's storyline that has been mildly at play since her escape from Ramsay. Sansa is a vindictive bitch who wants to make people suffer. She made victim noises for 5.5 seasons and has finally snapped. It was all right in front of us. Her questioning Jon. Her preferring Revenge to common sense in the case of the Umbers and Karstarks. And most of all that little bit about her talking about Cersei and saying "I learned alot from her" . Sansa is BECOMING Cersei.

And if you need anymore proof I saw this on twitter yesterday, do you think it is coincidence in that in the exact scene where Sansa talks about "I learned alot from her" that she is looking like this?

Well Sansa was essentially sold to different men, one of whom was an insane sadist who raped her repeatedly. So yeah, she's a bit bitter and vindictive. She's been twisted and wants payback. She cares about little else I suspect. Littlefinger gave her to Ramsey. He's alive because she needs him...for now. She an Arya are both dangerous as hell right now. The Stark girls revenge tour could claim quite a body count by the end.

Dany was sold by her brother became a queen and then was taken prisoner and debased again. But being the mother of dragons, grew stronger from it. She has no tolerance for oppressors however, and so they may feel her wrath. It isn't irrational though. Or cruel. She's trying to do the right thing.

 

[Deepster]

Upon a rewatch, the scene with Arya and the young Lannister soldiers was phenomenal.

 

[Scalito]

You sell Dany short. She was worthless, but she's learned well. You have to give her props for burning up all the Dothraki leaders and walking out alive (and naked). She keeps getting better at this, just as Jon does.

Danny was only there because she blows with the wind. Her ambition since Season One has been to reclaim the Iron Throne, and all she has done since is bounce from place to place across the ocean. It was forgivable in the beginning, but how many seasons did she waste because she decided "she would do what queens do and rule" in Mereen? Why was she conquering Mereen in the first place? The character is an oaf whose only saving grace is the narrator's favor.

 

[Excalibur]

Upon a rewatch, the scene with Arya and the young Lannister soldiers was phenomenal.

The scene was fine -- possibly a realization for Arya that soldiers are just people doing the job they are hired to do and a reminder of the value of life. Adding Ed Sheeran to that was really tacky.

 

[Scalito]

Biggest question is who is Hodor?

GoUConn. Who else amongst us can bench 500 lbs?

 

[Scalito]

Upon a rewatch, the scene with Arya and the young Lannister soldiers was phenomenal.

That scene has me worried that my glorious assassin is embarking on a newer, tamer character arc. If Arya mellows, Ima gonna feel cheated. I like her bloodthirsty revenge, and it is nice to finally see a Stark fight back with competence.