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There were several phantom fouls called on UConn in the last six minutes

Donny thinks the Hoyas were on the short end. Did he ever take that back? Did he ever talk about the foul and free throw advantage for the Hoyas?

I'm watching from shaky wi-fi while cruising and stopped paying attention at 64-41

He was a bonehead to start the game
 
Hurley has always done this. Nothing to see here
Maybe but this teams's floor is lower than the last 2 seasons and when they let of the gas they make too many mistakes that let teams back into games.
 
Just got home myself and it was a great crowd - 17k+. The student section had a few very loud “ duck Dan Hurley” chants going. Not sure if that was heard on TV. However, the Hoya crowd energy was lost after we went on that tear after halftime. They started to filter out right before we went into the funk.
I was hoping to see Abraham get some garbage minutes but that went away when we gave up the big lead. He probably had a lot of family and friends in attendance.

Another promising sight was seeing McNeeley walking around w/o the boot on. He was getting around pretty well considering the injury. Hopefully, he continues to stay on schedule for his return at the end of the month.

As others have said, they played really well until they went to the stall mode.
Kept looking over at Dan Hurley to see if he would take the bait from the G-Town crowd. He barely reacted. Also relatively calm with the refs despite that glaring foul imbalance in the first half. A lot of pushing off by the GT guards on offense with none of it called.
 
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Speaking of a good UConn showing in the men’s game there was an even larger UConn contingent at the women’s game. Looked like a packed house at that venue.

UConn nation showing up.
 
I think you're selling Diarra short. "In a perfect world" was last season where we had NBA talent at every position in the starting line-up. That's exceedingly rare.

He has shown that he is more than capable of being an elite pass-first PG that can run a high-octane offense. It's January and he's 9th in America in APG and first in the Big East. He also has elite defensive skills, with the only drawback being that he's a bit undersized. And, with the exception of today's game, he takes care of the ball beautifully.
He is doing a good job running the offense. Clearly the best of the bunch. Though you don't think RJ Cole would have a better assist ratio in this offense? Diarra is maximiizing his talent but he is limited due to lack of shot. I love his D, hustle and running the offense but when things break down he isn't very good.
 
Playing like that for the last eight minutes will lose the game against a better team than Georgetown

This is such a weird but predictable take. It’s like saying “if there were more time on the clock it would have come down to the wire.” You can dislike it all you want but it seems pretty clear the staff knew the time and score and knew there wasn’t enough time for Georgetown to trade possessions and win. Saying “if the other team was better” is a completely useless observation. They were coaching against this Georgetown team in this situation. I know people are going to hate that but trying to hypothesize about a different opponent in a different situation is completely useless.
 
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Well our "prevent defense" was a -16 in the last 8 min. Kind of took the shine off this one.

I am grateful that AN put some things on tape and we tried almost every lineup in the book.

Samson was mostly a plus, solid defense and really good rebounding. He had more that he kept alive. Win, get better, and move on.
Does it really matter? Like, I never get concerned with garbage time
 
He had 9 points in the first half and 6 in the second half. So which half didn't you like? His last basket was with 11 minutes left. Is that what you're talking about? Although besides Karaban nobody on the team scored much in the last 11 minutes so he wasn't the only one.
Solo couldn’t take a shot for last 8 minutes of the game, because Hurley had Diara dribble ball in corner for 28 seconds and then Throw up an air ball on a contested 3 for every possession of last 8 minutes.
 
Does it really matter? Like, I never get concerned with garbage time
Some game they will be up less and need to milk clock and then get a good look. They had a huge lead and couldn’t lose, but they looked so bad over the last 8 minutes. Diarra has been great this year, but today was a pretty rough game for him, and he really ran the milk the clock offense poorly. He did for the most part, break the press, and not turn the ball over, so I will give him credit for that.
 
When we were in super stall mode, we delayed picking up the ball after made GU baskets in order to let the clock run. Did anyone notice that the ref started the 5-second inbound count before AK actually grabbed the ball? And that forced AK to rush to grab the ball and make a quick pass, which resulted in a turnover (Hassan stole it right back).

The basket was made with 4:42 remaining in the 2nd half. The ref started his count at 4:36.

Can he start a count before the inbounder has possession of the ball? If anything, I feel like it warranted a delay of game warning.
 
I love Diarra but in a perfect world he is a sixth man. Cole was Big East first teamer and a lot better shooter. Plus this all started about who was a better player at end of clock/end of game situations. Clearly RJ Cole was better at that than Diarra has been.
Sometimes life isn’t perfect, and in that imperfect world Hassan is a hell of a leader and a PG. It won’t be 2023-24 every year.
 
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I watched the game on replay knowing the final score. That last 8+ minutes was an embarrassment. The last 2 UConn teams would have watched G'town walk to the locker room totally demoralized and the rest of the Big East quaking in their boots. I'm not sure this team is ready for prime time.
 
I'm basing this off what I have seen from Nowell so far in limited minutes. Maybe it is more hope as Diarra and Mahaney don't really instill confidence attacking the basket.
The only drive to the basket he had today was a wide open path. Mahaney, that's actually one of the things we know he's good at, it's the PG play and decision making that's his issue. And Diarra is actually pretty good at driving to.the basket. I want Nowell to be good as much as anyone, and I think he's going to be great for us over the next few years, but he's not going to come close to replacing Diarra this year.
 
I’d like to see guys like Abraham and Nowell get more run in situations like that where we feel that comfortable with the lead that we don’t feel it’s imperative to score in bunches there.
With the pesky defense and tenacity GTown played with all the way to the end, putting in two freshmen would not have been a smart move.
 
No RJ Cole is clearly a better player and scorer. First Team all Big East. Diarra is just a complentary piece on a good team. I love his defense but he is just an adequate Point Guard. Wow some peope really don't appreciate what RJ Cole brought when he was here.
What is your issue with Diarra? Did he steal your girlfriend or something?

I agree RJ Cole is underappreciated, but he did play on a weaker team that what we've had the last couple years, including this year, and I dont think he's necessarily better than Diarra.

But I also think that Diarra is very underappreciated. A complimentary piece and "adequate" point guard? Most teams would kill to have such an adequate, experienced, and dawg of a PG who is 9th in the country in assists and solid ast/to ratio.
 
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We were? I thought UConn was favored between 3.5 and 5. With that kind of spread it would be very strange if Kenpom had Georgetown favored. Can you show me the Kenpom predictor? I'm curious to see how that could be.
Consider the source
 
What is your issue with Diarra? Did he steal your girlfriend or something?

I agree RJ Cole is underappreciated, but he did play on a weaker team that what we've had the last couple years, including this year, and I dont think he's necessarily better than Diarra.

But I also think that Diarra is very underappreciated. A complimentary piece and "adequate" point guard? Most teams would kill to have such an adequate, experienced, and dawg of a PG who is 9th in the country in assists and solid ast/to ratio.
I have no issue with Diarra except he is way down the list of great UConn PGs. He does what he does fine. Brings the ball up, runs the offense, plays great D, hits and occasional shot and hits FTs. It is just that his offensive game regarding scoring has a lot to be desired and especially at the end of the shot clock. I would rather have a big better scorer from the PG position but he is our best option right now. He has a very suspect jump shot too which dosn't help him when he can't drive to score.
 
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You mean the one where Nowell didn’t fight through a weak screen and let Epps get wide open for a corner 3?

Pay attention instead of just blindly trying to hate on players you don’t like for some reason. Embarrassing.
No I mean the one he took from the corner with 15 seconds to go in the half instead of waiting for the last shot. Maybe you should do a better job of understanding what people say instead of looking for a fight. And I happen to like J Ross. With more experience I think he will a player. It was said his only mistake was pulling up for a jumper when he had a clear lane to the hoop. I was only pointing out another one which led to a made 3 pointer by Georgetown to close the half.
 
I love Hassan. He's playing great at PG, averages 6.7 APG with a tremendous assist to turnover ratio. He's also a
defensive lock down

I'm thankful for the man, always have been. Was universally mocked on this board when I said he would average 15 MPG before the 23/24 season. He's better than RJ, who I also love.
 
Kept looking over at Dan Hurley to see if he would take the bait from the G-Town crowd. He barely reacted. Also relatively calm with the refs despite that glaring foul imbalance in the first half. A lot of pushing off by the GT guards on offense with none of it called.

It’s been happening a ton, somehow allowed by the refs vs PC, Nova and GTown. The most obvious is fighting through screens they are holding and bodying to stop any advantage coming off the screen for our guys. It’s been happening so consistently and allowed I’m now immune to screaming at the TV:D
 
I love Hassan. He's playing great at PG, averages 6.7 APG with a tremendous assist to turnover ratio. He's also a
defensive lock down

I'm thankful for the man, always have been. Was universally mocked on this board when I said he would average 15 MPG before the 23/24 season. He's better than RJ, who I also love.

He’s a good player and a very good defender, lock down no. That’s Ricky Moore and Castle not quite Diarra. He’s a 6th man, real damn good one, who has been forced to be the #1. He’s been doing an adequate job no doubt but we’d be better if his minutes were limited more to a 6th man. With this team though it is what it is, and we have to be happy with him. He’s not good with the ball late in the shot clock, actually the exact opposite but I blame that on Dan Hurley because it continuously comes to that. Yesterday was the worst and again on Dan Hurley. He will benefit more to getting Liam back as he’s the only other player who can create offense off the dribble in a consistent manner. We also need him to have better 1st halves he seems to be a bit tentative early on, maybe also due to nor having Liam now in the lineup.

Hey this kid is a monster piece of our NCs his improvement was dramatic last year, leading to his BE award. What’s not to like overall?
 
When we were in super stall mode, we delayed picking up the ball after made GU baskets in order to let the clock run. Did anyone notice that the ref started the 5-second inbound count before AK actually grabbed the ball? And that forced AK to rush to grab the ball and make a quick pass, which resulted in a turnover (Hassan stole it right back).

The basket was made with 4:42 remaining in the 2nd half. The ref started his count at 4:36.

Can he start a count before the inbounder has possession of the ball? If anything, I feel like it warranted a delay of game warning.
I’m not sure of the exact rule, but I bet refs and opposing coaches have been tired of UConn doing that since last year. And honestly I agree with them. Strategically it’s a good move from Hurley, but it makes for annoying viewing. I’d much rather just inbound the ball 5 seconds earlier and actually score

Chipping in on the RJ Cole debate as well - all I’m going to say is that the only similarity is that RJ also wasn’t supposed to be the “get the ball and go get a bucket” role, and look what he turned it into..our fanbase really doesn’t give him the respect he deserves
 
We can agree to disagree. Cole was a nice player on a much lesser team. I appreciate diarras skill set more. There is no right answer, we just disagree. Neither was great late shot clock.
You're just wrong. Cole was the best player on our team for 2 years. One of those teams was about as good as this team. And he's a pro player. Don't see Diarra as a pro anywhere. Cole also never had as poor a game as Diarra yesterday, 2-8 fg, 4 turnovers, 3 blocked shots and just bad decisions. When Diarra is good he's a top 4 player on the team but he was really bad yesterday.
 
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