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doggydaddy said:
The men didn't have a recruting violation. It was having to low an APR.

What was unfair is they went back to prior years before the guidelines were set.
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They got whacked a bit. One of the last schools to do so.
From the Los That sports blog. I imagine other sources would confirm also.

Uconn] also had its scholarships reduced, from 13 to 12, for the next three seasons, and will be limited to five official paid recruiting visits for the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years, the committee said. The committee said it based the sanctions on its findings that Calhoun failed to monitor the program and failed to create an atmosphere promoting rules compliance.
UConn has defended coach Jim Calhoun, saying the evidence doesn’t support allegations that he did not foster NCAA rules compliance.
The committee also placed a two-year show-cause penalty on former UConn assistant Beau Archibald, in addition to other penalties levied against the university.
The penalties did not include a postseason ban for the Huskies.
NCAA investigators said UConn’s staff made hundreds of improper calls and text messages to recruits, gave recruits improper benefits and improperly distributed free tickets to high school coaches and others.
The violations centered on former UConn recruit Nate Miles and his relationship with former manager-turned-agent Josh Nochimson. Miles did not play for the 2009 Huskies team that went to the Final Four, but only because he was dismissed from school after he violated a restraining order against a woman.
 
Icebear said:
I have no intention of letting this die off. I am organizing a campaign to make it go viral via Facebook. The NCAA deserves to be publicly shamed over this.
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I like the idea but since the NCAA has proven it has no shame I doubt if it will work :(
 
Let's play Inspector Columbo, shall we:
First, which coach had her team blown out in the Final 4 Championship game?
Next, which coach has had a long running p***ing contest with Geno?
Which school has an inflated ego of themselves?

With those questions answered by our crack staff of posters, it may bring us closer to our answer of the "unnamed" school.
The SEC theory is old and outdated. Really, Pat Summit is no longer part of the picture. UT has it's own problems. Maryland? Not enough history with Geno. The Pac-12? Nope, at least not in my way of thinking.

So, with all of that said, anyone else want to make a "shot in the dark" guess?

ND is Inspector Columbo's hunch.
 
Icebear said:
I have no intention of letting this die off. I am organizing a campaign to make it go viral via Facebook. The NCAA deserves to be publicly shamed over this.
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did not mean you Bear. Was just talking about the situation in general.
 
This post is meant somewhat tongue in cheek about how the NCAA thinking process operates. We are soon to know who the rat was. The NCAA is going to leak the name as they figure that the press and social media will devour the revelation thus taking the NCAA out of the spotlight. It is not paranoia if it turns out to be correct. :)
 
CTFIRERETIRED said:
Let's play Inspector Columbo, shall we:
First, which coach had her team blown out in the Final 4 Championship game?
Next, which coach has had a long running p***ing contest with Geno?
Which school has an inflated ego of themselves?

With those questions answered by our crack staff of posters, it may bring us closer to our answer of the "unnamed" school.
The SEC theory is old and outdated. Really, Pat Summit is no longer part of the picture. UT has it's own problems. Maryland? Not enough history with Geno. The Pac-12? Nope, at least not in my way of thinking.

So, with all of that said, anyone else want to make a "shot in the dark" guess?

ND is Inspector Columbo's hunch.
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I don't think it's fair to speculate. It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a school out of left field that has us all scratching our heads. Also it may not have necessarily been a WCBB coach that initiated the complaint (unless someone has confirmation of this). For all we know it could have been an overzealous athletic department employee (or athletic director) with enough working knowledge of the rules and regulations that happened to see the phone call mentioned on ESPN.
 
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HoopsFan21 said:
I don't think it's fair to speculate. It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a school out of left field that has us all scratching our heads. Also it may not have necessarily been a WCBB coach that initiated the complaint (unless someone has confirmation of this). For all we know it could have been an overzealous athletic department employee (or athletic director) with enough working knowledge of the rules and regulations that happened to see the phone call mentioned on ESPN.
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Sure sounds like it was a coach....

[Geno] "So you want to know like what’s wrong not only with some of the things that go on but with some of the people that I coach against.’’
 
CTFIRERETIRED said:
Let's play Inspector Columbo, shall we:
First, which coach had her team blown out in the Final 4 Championship game?
Next, which coach has had a long running p***ing contest with Geno?
Which school has an inflated ego of themselves?

With those questions answered by our crack staff of posters, it may bring us closer to our answer of the "unnamed" school.
The SEC theory is old and outdated. Really, Pat Summit is no longer part of the picture. UT has it's own problems. Maryland? Not enough history with Geno. The Pac-12? Nope, at least not in my way of thinking.

So, with all of that said, anyone else want to make a "shot in the dark" guess?

ND is Inspector Columbo's hunch.
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Except John A. reported a high-level source told him it wasn't ND, Duke or MD.
 
pap49cba said:
Sure sounds like it was a coach....

[Geno] "So you want to know like what’s wrong not only with some of the things that go on but with some of the people that I coach against.’’
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You think Geno knows or is just guessing like us? Does the NCAA disclose that information amongst the schools involved on the condition of confidentiality? I took that quote from Geno as a generality. Wonder if Mo'ne will get asked about this whole thing tonight.
 
According to today's Courant UConn knows it wasn't a team from the AAC or ACC.

If so, it's gotta' be Tenn.
 
We have long been aware of the ineptitude of the NCAA. As sure as the Lord makes little green apples, the name of the complainer (school, AD, or coach) will be leaked, either inadvertantly or deliberately. Until that happens:
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Most secondary violations come with zero penalty and I expect that will be the case here. As for the NCAA ruling on this so quickly - it is not surprising because there are no issues regarding 'facts' and it is such a minor issue and results in a 'secondary violation' that there was no reason not to rule immediately. I am pretty sure that is why the AD just said we disagree but are just letting this stand. Pretty sure the NCAA said there would be no 'sanctions' involved when they made the ruling or Uconn and the AD would have pursued this further.
As for what school filed the complaint ... reportedly not ACC or AAC so in the NE that leaves B1G or one of the mid-majors. If it had no local connection I supposed it could be B12 or Pac10 or SEC but it does just seem really petty.
 
Kibitzer said:
ahem.

Someone may have turned Geno in to the NCAA but it is humanly impossible to turn Geno into the NCAA.
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Yes, of course, as is often the case, you're right that until science progresses far beyond it's current abilities, it is currently impossible to turn Geno into the NCAA but....

we've witnessed one small but significant achievement in that at least one person at one university and one member of the NCAA provided us with the proof that human beings can indeed turn into a jackass.

Boo
 
I would challenge the ruling of the NCAA on the basis of 13.1.3.1.4. Geno did not make a phone call to either Mo'ne nor her parents nor her representatives. He made it to LL and to ESPN. It was their folks who noted that she was standing there and then handed the phone to her asking him if he wanted to wish her his best directly.
 
Mike & Mike on ESPN having a field day about this complaint and what's wrong with college athletics.
 
Okay, going way out on the limb of the giant conspiracy theory tree. Can a complaint be filled by a booster of another program? One that is known to have such hatred for all things UConn and Geno in particular? One that bleeds orange and was a key contributor to the prior complaint that dragged several Boneyarders into the fray? One whose first or last name starts with an M or a C.

You know.... could it be.......SATAN? <doing my best Church Lady impression>
 
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geneticrex said:
Since this is a family forum, I'll refrain from commenting.
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meh- just use an assortment of asterisks and dashes.
 
There is a thread about this on The Summitt. Anyone have access to that who can provide the general gist of the comments?
 
Whoever it was ..... guilty of being blithering idiots..... You would figure after the well publicized assault by the Lady Vols which didn't result in anything, essentially, and the fallout from that, you would figure that peeps would have to have the goods to bring to the table..... It obviously is not a violation......

I think this must have come from a lesser program..... not TN ND MD etc..... because the intelligence quotient had to be low
 
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RadyLady said:
My dad used to have a saying in situations such as this and I'm sure it wasn't his originally: it takes a bigger man to admit he's wrong.

I find it odd that the NCAA ruled this as a secondary violation using this girl's celebrity as basis for their decision.

I doubt they will backtrack at this point especially given all the attention.

And I believe the finger pointing and speculation is harmful because it's based on no evidence whatsoever, only conjecture. Sure as loyal fans we are upset and angry, but in responding in this manner, It kind of makes us look petty IMHO.

That said I do hope we find out who complained....
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It's clear to everyone but some diehard UConn haters that the complaint is petty. The biggest issue I have with the complaint is that Geno's phone call was a very public event. If he was attempting something shady, why do it in front of everyone? The fact that Geno checked with UConn compliance first covers Geno's butt, but not UConn's, as the compliance office apparently gave Geno somewhat bad advice.

But the reaction of some posters on this thread is not very collegial, as pointed out by RadyLady. It's one thing to accuse certain coaches of being small-minded and petty by suggesting that they are responsible for the complaint, but after at least 4 people have posted information released by UConn press sources indicating that the neither Notre Dame nor any ACC teams made the accusation, it is at least irresponsible to continue to suggest that the complaint originated in South Bend. And for that matter, any suggestions of the source of the complaint seem mean-spirited. It's only a matter of time before the identity of the complainant is revealed, but until that time, accusing suspects seems reminiscent of a witch hunt.
 
I'm confused about something. Perhaps someone (The NCAA?) can explain it to me. Every year many (If not most), popular Div. I women's (& men's) Basketball coaches hold Basketball "Camps" for young people (ages 6-18). Why is something like this not viewed as an illegal (Or at least unfair advantage) contact with a potential recruit as they are frequently affiliated with the Universities? Is it because it is a "paid" enterprise?
 
maybe i spoke too soon.... i read the rule seemed OK to me.... now someone in NCAA is saying it is an inadvertant violation.... this true?
 
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