GaTech to the B1G Picking up steam on Twitter

[caw]

I have trouble believing it. Having GTU in the Big Ten does not cause people in Atlanta to pay for the Big Ten Network separately, nor does it allow the existing Big Ten names to make inroads into the market by bringing their existing midwestern stars there to play. Atlanta is and always will be SEC country unless the Big Ten adds UGA.

In Rutgers, they think they're getting TV revenues in Jersey (not NYC), but they get access to Big Ten fans and alumni in the entire NYC Metro area. Neither of those exist at GTU. The only similarity between GTU and RU is they both dilute the athletic quality of the conference.

If I had to guess, GT, which would join, is being used to try to smoke out UVA and/or UNC. But that is just a WAG.

I agree with this, though I think GT is a fallback that the B1G would take if UVA/UNC both say no, which they can because they are both also in play, somewhat, for the SEC. GT is the low hanging fruit (of the ACC) for the B1G to get, IMO. They aren't going to be pursued by the SEC and are lower on the list for the Big 12, though likely would be called on. GT is still probably higher up the list than UConn, but of the ACC pickings they shouldn't be that high.

 

[Dooley]

My guess is UConn will be in ACC before Christmas

At this point, I hope not. I'm really hoping for a B1G invite. I know, I know...I'd accept an ACC invite too if it gets out of the Big East. But I really think there is a chance at the B1G here.

 

[Adios]

I agree with this, though I think GT is a fallback that the B1G would take if UVA/UNC both say no, which they can because they are both also in play, somewhat, for the SEC. GT is the low hanging fruit (of the ACC) for the B1G to get, IMO. They aren't going to be pursued by the SEC and are lower on the list for the Big 12, though likely would be called on. GT is still probably higher up the list than UConn, but of the ACC pickings they shouldn't be that high.

UConn has a bigger market than GT. Also, no competition.

 

[businesslawyer]

I understand that all of these conference moves are based on money but is the biggest factor the TV dollars? I only ask because I live in Ridgefield and had no clue until the other day that I get the BT Network. I never asked for it so it must come with whatever sports package I've had with Comcast for umpteen years.

The Biggest factor is the TV dollars. For the Ten, the issue is not primarily how many households does the Big Ten Network penetrate as much as how much per subscriber can they get out of the cable companies for it. In Ridgefield, I guaranty you they are not getting a fraction per subscriber as what they get in cable companies in Michigan and Nebraska because they have no leverage. The more of an eastern presence in the Ten, and, in Ridgefield, the more of a UConn presence, the better their ability to demand a higher payment from the cable companies.

Does that help?

 

[jdrinboston]

^Proof that we have fans in Boston!

18 is a possibility, yes.

A Connecticut transplant keeping the flag waving in Beantown.....and for the record, in my five years living here, I have yet to see any signs of BC's relevancy in this market. I'll keep looking though!

 

[UConnDan97]

They only reason they are currently Bulldog fans is because Georgia keeps running over Georgia Tech in football. However the extra 10 million could buy a top notch coach who would bring in top notch recruits to deal with Georgia. Plus this hides the fact that Georgia Tech was once again run over by Georgia for the year... it will quickly be forgotten

It's not the only reason. Georgia is the "State U". They enjoy a lot more history and top notch performances in their past, even when the "Ramblin' Wreck" was in its prime. They really tout the "World's Largest Coctail Party" with Florida, and generally speaking, are SEC Country. Even a span of 5 consecutive wins in a row won't flip that boat in the state of Georgia, and 5 wins in a row would really be saying something! By the way, the longest streak in the rivalry belongs to Tech, with eight straight wins from 1949-1956 (and that still didn't flip the issue in the state of Georgia).

But it certainly doesn't help that Tech gets its kicked yearly by the Bulldogs, either...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean,_Old-Fashioned_Hate

 

[businesslawyer]

I agree with this, though I think GT is a fallback that the B1G would take if UVA/UNC both say no, which they can because they are both also in play, somewhat, for the SEC. GT is the low hanging fruit (of the ACC) for the B1G to get, IMO. They aren't going to be pursued by the SEC and are lower on the list for the Big 12, though likely would be called on. GT is still probably higher up the list than UConn, but of the ACC pickings they shouldn't be that high.

What do they do with GTU if UNC and UVA end up in the SEC. That would devastate GTU athletics in the long run, just like the geographic isolation has harmed BCU, and do no one any good.

 

[Adios]

The Biggest factor is the TV dollars. For the Ten, the issue is not primarily how many households does the Big Ten Network penetrate as much as how much per subscriber can they get out of the cable companies for it. In Ridgefield, I guaranty you they are not getting a fraction per subscriber as what they get in cable companies in Michigan and Nebraska because they have no leverage. The more of an eastern presence in the Ten, and, in Ridgefield, the more of a UConn presence, the better their ability to demand a higher payment from the cable companies.

Does that help?

You got any big-time corporate friends you can lobby?

 

[Point6]

I've been thinking the exact same thing. And ironically the ACC presidents will be meeting face to face over the next 36 hours because of their championship game tomorrow.

It would not shock me if both UConn and Cincy took the field tomorrow - on ABC no less - with ACC invites in hand. Not saying I'm holding my breath, I just wouldn't be shocked.

Despite earlier predictions, the carousel has not stopped yet, and the Swofford knows it.

I think we need to insist on a special revenue treatment before accepting an ACC invite at this stage. If they want us now, it can't be for a mere "equal slice" of the pie. We will also need to upgrade the mascot uniform if this happens - or at least get it cleaned.

 

[caw]

UConn has a bigger market than GT. Also, no competition.

Yes but the AAU factor may play a role, who knows it's all such a crapshoot and spin. The conferences are doing a better job of spinning things than most politicians.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

Could the BiG actually be ambling for 18 teams?

Not com

Could the BiG actually be ambling for 18 teams?

Not likely, but not completely out of the realm of possibility. Although if the B1G added Virginia, UNC, GT, and UConn...the media contract they would get would dwarf some countries GDP around the world. Plus it would completely kill off the ACC.

 

[Rumrunner]

UGA is the big dog of Georgia football. GTech is a nerdy, somewhat elitist institution that happens to be in Atlanta. I don't think Delaney will select such a school that is significantly out of the B10's geography. He isn't Marinatto and that doesn't accord with the BTN business model.

Atlanta's DMA of 2.4 m households is appealing, but to think the BTN can force carry the providers of all things yellowjackets would be a stretch.

 

[Adios]

Georgia Tech might have more national titles and John Heisman as a head coach in it's past, but the first collegiate football game in the south was UGA vs Auburn in 1892, if I am correct.

 

[formerlurker]

The Biggest factor is the TV dollars. For the Ten, the issue is not primarily how many households does the Big Ten Network penetrate as much as how much per subscriber can they get out of the cable companies for it. In Ridgefield, I guaranty you they are not getting a fraction per subscriber as what they get in cable companies in Michigan and Nebraska because they have no leverage. The more of an eastern presence in the Ten, and, in Ridgefield, the more of a UConn presence, the better their ability to demand a higher payment from the cable companies.

Does that help?

Yes, thank you.

 

[Adios]

Yes but the AAU factor may play a role, who knows it's all such a crapshoot and spin. The conferences are doing a better job of spinning things than most politicians.

We'll see how that works out. We can get into the B1G and THEN get accepted into the AAU. I am going to talk to my UM doctor about this and tell him to get his UM buddies on the UConn bandwagon. He's all for UConn in the B1G. UM is one of the biggest influences in the B1G.

 

[husky210]

For the 800th time on this board, there is no rule. They could take Alaska Anchorage if they want.

True, but Delany and the B1G don't strike me as taking an outlier straight on tv #. They are very deliberate and calculated in their movements. They're going to take teams that make sense regionally academically and athletically. UVA fits the bill. Uconn is close, but we don't have aau. I would think UVA and unc over GT plus one any day.

 

[SubbaBub]

Don't understand the appeal of Gtech. They're not a great program, second fiddle in their state. Sounds like someone the ACC would go after.

Yes, I get Atlanta but, is that the only reason?

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[husky91]

Yes, but who knows if ACC skips us again 4 USF, Cincy. Why would we suddenly be attractive?

This is likely followed by a full implosion so there will be many seats at the table.

I think this gets done fast

 

[caw]

What do they do with GTU if UNC and UVA end up in the SEC. That would devastate GTU athletics in the long run, just like the geographic isolation has harmed BCU, and do no one any good.

Like I said, I think GT is a fallback.

I am assuming two big things, the B1G is going after at least 1 ACC school and they want to get to 16 at least.

If UNC and UVA are out of play, who else is worthy of being added from the ACC?

1. UNC - Out of play (assumption)
2. UVA - Out of play (assumption)
3. GT - AAU, big market, major transportation hub for easy access, downside is that they are trumped by UG.
4. Cuse - possible (honestly next best fit, IMO), NYC already partially covered is the main downside
5. BC - doesn't fit and athletically inept. They have shown zero interest in being decent in anything besides hockey
6. FSU - isolated, but perhaps because of football
7. Duke - I guess maybe, though I'm not sure Duke football is what you want to hang your hat on, also probably #2 in state at best
8. Pitt - ground already covered
9. VT - Not an academic fit at all
10. WF - not a leader in the state
11. UL - again academics
12. Miami - I don't think they fit
13. NCST - academics are the biggest hangup followed by them being #3 in the state
14. ND - huge wildcard
15. Clemson - not the leader in their state as isolated as GT, but without the major city of Atlanta

Cuse and GT would be my first choices from the ACC after UNC and UVA. I would take GT over Cuse because they add a large city with no overlap in coverage.

 

[caw]

We'll see how that works out. We can get into the B1G and THEN get accepted into the AAU. I am going to talk to my UM doctor about this and tell him to get his UM buddies on the UConn bandwagon. He's all for UConn in the B1G. UM is one of the biggest influences in the B1G.

I would hope Manuel would be able to work his UM connections.

 

[husky91]

ATL is the capital and gateway to SE, GT is a premiere institution. B1G doesn't take eyesores like Ville.

Don't understand the appeal of Gtech. They're not a great program, second fiddle in their state. Sounds like someone the ACC would go after.

Yes, I get Atlanta but, is that the only reason?

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[Adios]

I would hope Manuel would be able to work his UM connections.

Part of his job description should be doing exactly that. Without saying.

 

[uc1974]

GT, an ex-SEC team, does not have a boatload of fans in Georgia or anywhere else. They are a real second fiddle in Ga. and don't bring anything to the table. That being said, they're probably up next.

 

[Adios]

Cuse and GT would be my first choices from the ACC after UNC and UVA. I would take GT over Cuse because they add a large city with no overlap in coverage.

Going by the schools you listed here, I would assume the SEC wants UNC. That would leave UVA, Syracuse and us. We're in a very good position.

 

[caw]

True, but Delany and the B1G don't strike me as taking an outlier straight on tv #. They are very deliberate and calculated in their movements. They're going to take teams that make sense regionally academically and athletically. UVA fits the bill. Uconn is close, but we don't have aau. I would think UVA and unc over GT plus one any day.

The B1G seems to be the only conference with their ish together.

 

[Adios]

The B1G seems to be the only conference with their ish together.

As well as the SEC and Pac-12. Those three conferences are never going to go as long as this civilization continues.

 

[husky210]

Cuse is a private school. How many private schools are in the B1G?

 

[Adios]

Cuse is a private school. How many private schools are in the B1G?

You seriously asking? Just Northwestern. The University of Chicago used to be involved in athletics but now are just involved academically. Two, from an academic standpoint.

 

[husky210]

You seriously asking? Just Northwestern. The University of Chicago used to be involved in athletics but now are just involved academically. Two, from an academic standpoint.

I already knew the answer. Nw is the only one

 

[Adios]

On a side note, just e-mailed my doctor who went to UM, asking him to lobby for us amongst his fellow UM alumni. He responded in 4 minutes, saying, "Will do!"