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visitingcock said:
No. That ideal won’t happen. But ach player is capable of double digit points against solid teams.

Every player in our team started at least one game. No player started every game. Players 6-9 ( Fulwiley, Tessa, Ashlyn and Feagan ) were all top scorers in at least one game. The first half of the season Fulwiley and Ashlynn both played significant first half minutes against quality opponents. Tessa and Feagin joined them in the second half of the season. Our comeback in the championship game was spearheaded by Fulwiley and Tessa

All nine of our rotation played significant roles. Okay, that rotation is down by one but add Edwards or Dauda and it’s right back - potentially.
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And yet as I pointed out earlier, during the reg season of your tight games Papao and Raven playing 33 and 34 minutes each. Then in NCAA's the biggest game you are threatened vs Indiana, Cardoso and Raven are playing 32 minutes each and Cardoso is scoring 22 points on 10-12 shooting.

Then in the Finals -- the same two players mentioned above play 30.5 minutes and 36 minutes 50 seconds. The same two . Per the link below you had Cardoso the superstar and as they say "You can win in different ways" but both Ogwumike and Carter highlight the significant players;--> That tremendous un-guardable post that's also a rebounding machine (Cardoso) and the major catalyst excellent guard (Raven).

Where was the bench to give Raven a break?


 
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And yet as I pointed out earlier, during the reg season of your tight games Papao and Raven playing 33 and 34 minutes each. Then in NCAA's the biggest game you are threatened vs Indiana, Cardoso and Raven are playing 32 minutes each and Cardoso is scoring 22 points on 10-12 shooting.

Then in the Finals -- the same two players mentioned above play 30.5 minutes and 36 minutes 50 seconds. The same two . Per the link below you had Cardoso the superstar and as they say "You can win in different ways" but both Ogwumike and Carter highlight the significant players;--> That tremendous un-guardable post that's also a rebounding machine (Cardoso) and the major catalyst excellent guard (Raven).




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One could argue that the closeness of the Indiana game indicates that the subs should have played more. But let's pass on that.

Let;s look at the championship gameFulwiley played 18 minutes and Tessa played 25. They outscored Raven by 28-3. Raven was "hot" on defense but was not an offensive catalyst. There are other guards who got rest. Indeed, Fulwiley and Tessa came in during the first half and were keys in us catching up after Iowa jumped out to the early lead.

"That tremendous un-guardable post that's also a rebounding machine" did not play at all in a number of games - including UConn.

IDGI "but both Ogwumike and Carter highlight the significant players;-->" . . . ????????????????? I don't have a clue what this means.
 
visitingcock said:
One could argue that the closeness of the Indiana game indicates that the subs should have played more. But let's pass on that.

Let;s look at the championship gameFulwiley played 18 minutes and Tessa played 25. They outscored Raven by 28-3. Raven was "hot" on defense but was not an offensive catalyst. There are other guards who got rest. Indeed, Fulwiley and Tessa came in during the first half and were keys in us catching up after Iowa jumped out to the early lead.

"That tremendous un-guardable post that's also a rebounding machine" did not play at all in a number of games - including UConn.

IDGI "but both Ogwumike and Carter highlight the significant players;-->" . . . ????????????????? I don't have a clue what this means.
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I responded to a poster that stated to have just a few play over 20 minutes but overall play many players so they can give 110%. I said responded by saying it would be bets to have a few stars emerge. You then replied to me saying you would take 10 non-stars that average 10 points. I took this as a counter – a somewhat disagreement to my comment. Did I misinterpret your post in which I felt you were both agreeing with the other poster to play overall about 10-12 players 17 minutes to just over 20 minutes say a few in the 20’s vs. having stars play bigger minutes in big games that are close?

Otherwise I’m not sure of your point about Fulwliey and Tess vs what I have said. My reply initially to the other poster said “a few stars emerge.” That doesn’t mean 5/6 players as stars emerge so you only play with just 5/6. SO yes play Tess and Fulwiley minutes but in big games during both reg season you saw Paopao and Raven play 34/33 on average and you saw in tight games Raven and Cardoso’s play 30+ minutes in NCAA’s. Then that doesn’t reflect what my initial reply was the subject of.

Wen you said the following –

“I'll take ten supporting non-stars who average ten points apiece (and play tough defense).”

- if you are playing a few over 30 minutes in some NCAA games (as I suggested/implied when I stated have a few stars emerge), how is it that they aren’t interpreted as “stars?” Unless you are suggesting that for example Dawn made a mistake by playing Raven near 37 and should have had Fuilwiley play more? Also that Dawn made a mistake by playing Cardoso too much and should have the combo of Feagin and Watkins play more? I just don't see how your comment in bold or the comment I replide to by the other poster of 17 minutes for 12 players (with a few over 20) comes close to matching what Dawn has done vs Iowa and other close games I've referenced.

Unless you are not referncing close, tight, big games? Its just that in tight, bg games its best to have your stars that have emerged play ,more rather than "share the wealth" in order to give 110%.
 
South Carolina doesn't need to play anyone big minutes to blow 90% of the teams it faces out. When it is challenged it somewhat is more likely to play the starters more.

That's not a secret weakness.

Also the minutes distribution doesn't really support the argument much. Different players had big games in the tight ones and it wasn't unusual for it to be a reserve.

The National Championship sort of turned on the play of reserves Fulwiley and Tessa in the first half.
 
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Ain't that some crap. I was looking forward to being in Columbia to witness some Chicken getting fried on a Sunday..... A Thursday evening makes it really hard for Duke fans to be in attendance.
 
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WNBA: Anybody know why Curt Miller has Zia in the doghouse? Most games she does not play and when she does- its only a few minutes in the 2nd qtr.
 
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Creature said:
WNBA: Anybody know why Curt Miller has Zia in the doghouse? Most games she does not play and when she does- its only a few minutes in the 2nd qtr.
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From what I've seen of Zia's play in the limited minutes she gets, she doesn't make the most of her wide-open shots (thus the efficiency comment...) and she sometimes forces shots to compound the issue. I think for Zia it is the mental aspect of the game that she needs to improve on. She has a tendency to go through shooting slumps and I think she emotionally beats herself up when she doesn't live up to her standards, thus one bad game turns into a string of bad games.
 
I think Zia tended to be underrated in Columbia, but reserve as a pro seems about right.
 
Gamecockfan77 said:
I have rewatched the tournament here and there over last few months and what really stands out is how well Tessa Johnson first and Feagin and Fulwiley played off bench.
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Tessa Johnson/Fulwiley starting would be a top 5 backcourt next year and both are likely coming off of the bench.
 
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Fulwiley is a hard worker. I'm excited to see the new moves she adds to her bag this off-season. I think her 3-point shot is a testament to this. She went from being an unreliable to a reliable 3-point shooter during the course of the season. I've never seen anyone improve their technique like that while a season was underway. I can't wait to see what she improves in her downtime.
 
bballnut90 said:
Tessa Johnson/Fulwiley starting would be a top 5 backcourt next year and both are likely coming off of the bench.
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Let’s not forget that Chloe was a part of that same recruiting class of 24. Class of only 3 players and no top 10 ranked ( by Hooogurlz). All of these youngsters had major contributions to the unbeaten season.

The freshies have the school records for wins, but the 21 class could surpass them this year. And the 24s . . .
 
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visitingcock said:
Let’s not forget that Chloe was a part of that same recruiting class of 24. Class of only 3 players and no top 10 ranked ( by Hooogurlz). All of these youngsters had major contributions to the unbeaten season.

The freshies have the school records for wins, but the 21 class could surpass them this year. And the 24s . . .
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I am sure this has as much to do with player development than an underestimation of their talent. Dawn gets players that buy in from day one. She wins with players who stay and loses very few to the transfer portal. Her players get better each year and that's why they are willing to all be role players from time to time. She had 5 players get drafted and they were not all starters. Playing off the bench at South Carolina is more impressive than starting at most schools.
 
SCGamecock said:
Joyce Edwards goes on a tear in the U18 championship game, helps bring home the gold medal and wins MVP.

vs. Canada
16 PTS
13 REBS
1 AST
5 STL
6/11 (54%) FG
2/2 (100%) 3PT
36:49 MINS

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I didn’t realize she had that much range; that’ll be a welcome addition next year given the logjam in the paint.
 
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