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Game Week 2022 - UConn v. Army West Point Black Knights (Saturday 11/19/22 @ Noon on CBSSN)

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Boy, seeing the 2 deep this is a young team. Sometimes forget that. Makes getting to 6 wins even more crazy, with a chance for 7. Are Mora and the coaches that good (given at best fairly weak QB passing yardage by Division 1 standards, for non Army/Navy/AirForce schemes)? Team has won more games than not where they had a legit chance to lose, but pulled it out.

Army could very well win, but so could have BCU and Fresno State and even UMess would have been in the game late if they went for and made that 4th down. Somehow even not making the 4th down against Liberty, UConn still found a way to win. You keep doing it over and over again (winning close games) and at some point in time it ain't just luck it's good fortune that follows the prepared who play every play like it could be their last.
 
Waquoit said:
Right, what are we missing?
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Would the fact UConn is 9-2 ATS make a difference? The bookies might be expecting a lot of money on UConn and made Army a better bet.

Just guessing here…
 
HuskyNan said:
Would the fact UConn is 9-2 ATS make a difference? The bookies might be expecting a lot of money on UConn and made Army a better bet.

Just guessing here…
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If that was the case, the line would be lower. As it is, I'm about to drive to Rhode Island; something I hate to do.
 
Husky68 said:
Boy, seeing the 2 deep this is a young team. Sometimes forget that. Makes getting to 6 wins even more crazy, with a chance for 7. Are Mora and the coaches that good (given at best fairly weak QB passing yardage by Division 1 standards, for non Army/Navy/AirForce schemes)? Team has won more games than not where they had a legit chance to lose, but pulled it out.

Army could very well win, but so could have BCU and Fresno State and even UMess would have been in the game late if they went for and made that 4th down. Somehow even not making the 4th down against Liberty, UConn still found a way to win. You keep doing it over and over again (winning close games) and at some point in time it ain't just luck it's good fortune that follows the prepared who play every play like it could be their last.
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Very young. 60-70% of the 2 deep is FR/SO. They are getting some ridiculous experience, notwithstanding that said experience includes winning. Super foundation is being built right now.
 
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huskymedic said:
UConn & Army Game Notes now available and linked in OP ^^^
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Here's the problem with comparing these statistics: ours are distorted by the results from blowout losses to 3 opponents who were much better than us, and their's are distorted by how easy their three wins were against truly crappy teams that we would have also handled.

Here's the only statistic that's meaningful to me: we're 5-5 against FBS competition, they're 1-6, and their one win wasn't against an opponent anywhere near as good as three of teams we've beaten. I expect to be saying we've beaten 4 decent teams by late Saturday afternoon regardless of any cumulative statistics that are thrown out at us.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Here's the only statistic that's meaningful to me: we're 5-5 against FBS competition, they're 1-6, and their one win wasn't against an opponent anywhere near as good as three of teams we've beaten. I expect to be saying we've beaten 4 decent teams by late Saturday afternoon regardless of any culative statistics that are thrown out at us.
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Oh man, I really gotta get in the car.
 
businesslawyer said:
Here's the problem with comparing these statistics: ours are distorted by the results from blowout losses to 3 opponents who were much better than us, and their's are distorted by how easy their three wins were against truly crappy teams that we would have also handled.

Here's the only statistic that's meaningful to me: we're 5-5 against FBS competition, they're 1-6, and their one win wasn't against an opponent anywhere near as good as three of teams we've beaten. I expect to be saying we've beaten 4 decent teams by late Saturday afternoon regardless of any cumulative statistics that are thrown out at us.
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Amry has lost at 9-1 Coastal Carolina by 10, 8-2 UTSA at home by 3 in OT, 7-3 Air Force neutral site by 6, and 8-2 Troy at home by 1. They are a good team and they will present a big challenge to UConn.
 
Waquoit said:
Oh man, I really gotta get in the car.
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And wear your hiking shoes/sneakers. Depending on where you park and how you get to the stadium, there are some noticeable elevation challenges around Mitchie. At least for those of us not so well "conditioned" for them.
 
UConnJim said:
Amry has lost at 9-1 Coastal Carolina by 10, 8-2 UTSA at home by 3 in OT, 7-3 Air Force neutral site by 6, and 8-2 Troy at home by 1. They are a good team and they will present a big challenge to UConn.
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So they've lost to teams that are good in the Sunbelt and CUSA by reasonable margins. The key word in that sentence remains lost. We've beaten teams that play on much bigger and better stages. And they've beaten no one.

I have the utmost respect for Army's student athletes, and I don't think so highly of UConn that we couldn't lose to anybody. But I still don't understand why everyone wouldn't expect UConn to be in a competitive, close game. By the way -- Air Force lost to Utah State and is 3-3 in MWC, behind both Fresno State and Utah State in the standings.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Here's the only statistic that's meaningful to me: we're 5-5 against FBS competition, they're 1-6, and their one win wasn't against an opponent anywhere near as good as three of teams we've beaten. I expect to be saying we've beaten 4 decent teams by late Saturday afternoon regardless of any cumulative statistics that are thrown out at us.
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I like this and agree but...................................... I think you should have added..... wait.
I rest my case. ;)
 
cttxus said:
And wear your hiking shoes/sneakers. Depending on where you park and how you get to the stadium, there are some noticeable elevation challenges around Mitchie. At least for those of us not so well "conditioned" for them.
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Sorry for any confusion. I'm getting in the car to drive to Rhode Island to bet on UConn. With a stop at Tree House on the way home.
 
This team is more than capable of beating Army. The determining factor will be whether they can come out with with intensity and sustain it. They have spent a lot of emotional energy in the last few weeks between BC and Liberty. If the keep their eye on the prize (the first winning season in 12 years), they will be ready.
 
Waquoit said:
Sorry for any confusion. I'm getting in the car to drive to Rhode Island to bet on UConn. With a stop at Tree House on the way home.
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Well, wear you Depends then.
 
gopher2 said:
We cannot let Army set the tone on its first possession with a 15 play, 80-yard TD drive that uses about eight minutes of the first quarter. We will need some quick stops early.
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HCJM says he has to keep the offense on the field... Could lead to some more aggressive play calling than we are used to.
 
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RedStickHusky said:
HCJM says he has to keep the offense on the field... Could lead to some more aggressive play calling than we are used to.
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I hope to see Charlton second half play calling. We used up the clock pretty well and kept Liberty offense off the field
 
Guru13 said:
I hope to see Charlton second half play calling. We used up the clock pretty well and kept Liberty offense off the field
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Yeh, I like the idea that he's at least thinking of trying to protect the defense rather than just riding them into the ground. I'm starting to think he knows a thing or two... ;)
 
I'm picking the Huskies but one of the reasons for the 10 point spread is that (according to a Vegas Insider) Mora will never have faced the triple option before this Saturday's game.
 
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Waquoit said:
Sorry for any confusion. I'm getting in the car to drive to Rhode Island to bet on UConn. With a stop at Tree House on the way home.
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Doesn't CT have sports gambling now?
 
Nostical said:
I'm picking the Huskies but one of the reasons for the 10 point spread is that (according to a Vegas Insider) Mora will never have faced the triple option before this Saturday's game.
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Do you think all the sports books who have UConn as a 10 point underdog get that deep in their analysis? I honestly didn't think they would put that much weight on one element of the match up.

Mora has been around a long time....the guy knows defense...I am not worried at all he will figure out how to defend the triple option.

But...maybe that does explain the spread....along with Army playing tough in their losses.
 
huskyjawz said:
Doesn't CT have sports gambling now?
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Can't bet on CT sports teams from inside the state boundaries. Nearly all states with legal sports gambling have similar provisions.

One theory is that it is a half hearted attempt to prevent point-shaving.
 
Husky25 said:
Can't bet on CT sports teams from inside the state boundaries. Nearly all states with legal sports gambling have similar provisions.

One theory is that it is a half hearted attempt to prevent point-shaving.
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I see; thanks.
 
Nostical said:
I'm picking the Huskies but one of the reasons for the 10 point spread is that (according to a Vegas Insider) Mora will never have faced the triple option before this Saturday's game.
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Yes, but Mora has mentioned that he has assistants that have both coached it and coached against it. I had heard enough.
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