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Luna said:
We wouldn’t be able to recruit the players to win a ncca championship in the aac
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UConn did win an ncaa championship in the AAC with Kevin Ollie. The last women's championship was also in the AAC.
 
Luna said:
We wouldn’t be able to recruit the players to win a ncca championship in the aac
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Recruiting was fine when UConn first started playing in the AAC. There were players like Daniel Hamilton, Jalen Adams, Steven Enoch, Amidah Brimah, 2016 was a top 10 recruiting class. Then, Ollie fell off a cliff and UConn suffered. That said, when Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF left the AAC, UConn basketball would have suffered and going back to the BE was the right move.
 
In someways the bigger news is that three of the top 10 most washed basketball games were women's games, and more specifically women's games that had Caitlyn Clark in them. That's impressive.
 
Luna said:
We wouldn’t be able to recruit the players to win a ncca championship in the aac
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Maybe. But remember, Ollie actually had a top 10 recruiting class in 2016. And Hurley pulled in a top 20 class, with Booknight & Akok, the year before the announced move to the BE.
 
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noeynox said:
Hurley disagrees with you.
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Hurley doesn’t express self doubt. The AAC would be killing us. It’s ok to just accept that the Big East is a great basketball conference and is where we belong if we aren’t in a P4. The AAC was a huge downgrade for our program and that negative energy surrounded us. It limited recruiting and deflated our fan base. Empty seats don’t sell well to recruits.
 
Hoophound said:
Hurley doesn’t express self doubt. The AAC would be killing us. It’s ok to just accept that the Big East is a great basketball conference and is where we belong if we aren’t in a P4. The AAC was a huge downgrade for our program and that negative energy surrounded us. It limited recruiting and deflated our fan base. Empty seats don’t sell well to recruits.
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Two things could be true. The big east has been great and Hurley has stated that they would have had the same success regardless of returning to the Big East. I trust Hurley on this matter over any poster or the twitterati.
 
JMick said:
I had a dream we got invited to the B1G so don't worry guys, no need to fret over the big east media deal or worry about a hypothetical AAC UConn team
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If we were in the B1G, the B1G would finally have meaningful basketball wins.....and a better baseball program. And rounded out their map with the flagship state school of New England and arguably of NE and NY. You know all that, just saying....
 
Exit 4 said:
If we were in the B1G, the B1G would finally have meaningful basketball wins.....and a better baseball program. And rounded out their map with the flagship state school of New England and arguably of NE and NY. You know all that, just saying....
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it's honestly shocking to me that no big conference will pick us up with a reduced media payout (if it hasn't already been tried). Are we really not worth an extra 5 million or whatever the BE media deal is to the B1G but SMU is to the ACC?
 
JMick said:
I had a dream we got invited to the B1G so don't worry guys, no need to fret over the big east media deal or worry about a hypothetical AAC UConn team
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That is better than the dream i had. I dreamt the Big East and Moutain West merged and got BCS status.
 
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cellocgg said:
it's honestly shocking to me that no big conference will pick us up with a reduced media payout (if it hasn't already been tried). Are we really not worth an extra 5 million or whatever the BE media deal is to the B1G but SMU is to the ACC?
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Of course UConn is worth that. But so far with reduced shares, there is a timeframe that passes where the schools eventually earn a full share. Is UConn worth an eventual full-share payout to the B1G? That is the better question.
 
Rufus said:
Of course UConn is worth that. But so far with reduced shares, there is a timeframe that passes where the schools eventually earn a full share. Is UConn worth an eventual full-share payout to the B1G? That is the better question.
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We've been on a BE share this whole time, I'd be happy with even a quarter of the B1G for life
 
Luna said:
Why?… when was the last time a Big 10 team won a ncaa championship ?
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We have to go as far back as 5 months ago when Michigan won the College Football Playoff. Which is the most important one unfortunately.

I'm not trying to be negative and I would UConn in the B1G more than anything but I just don't see that ever happening in our lifetime when we cant even get into the lesser conferences of ACC and Big 12.
 
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Rufus said:
Of course UConn is worth that. But so far with reduced shares, there is a timeframe that passes where the schools eventually earn a full share. Is UConn worth an eventual full-share payout to the B1G? That is the better question.
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I think anything can be negotiated. The issue, of course, is no one wants our football program. So we would have to be creative in our negotiations. I still think, when push comes to shove, a power conference would take us for our basketball but we have to keep winning. If we turn into Villanova in the near future...well, it's over.
 
cellocgg said:
it's honestly shocking to me that no big conference will pick us up with a reduced media payout (if it hasn't already been tried). Are we really not worth an extra 5 million or whatever the BE media deal is to the B1G but SMU is to the ACC?
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I have a strong suspicion that if a decade ago we gave the ACC the same offer that SMU recently gave them we would have been in the ACC a decade ago.

I don't know of any state funded universities that could get away with offering their sports to a conference for zero media revenues as the state governments would veto it in a heartbeat. I imagine that there are very few private universities with the financial means (boosters) to pull this off.

SMU changed the landscape dramatically and most schools that still have aspirations of landing in a P4 conference will end up doing so with extremely discounted revenues.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I have a strong suspicion that if a decade ago we gave the ACC the same offer that SMU recently gave them we would have been in the ACC a decade ago.

I don't know of any state funded universities that could get away with offering their sports to a conference for zero media revenues as the state governments would veto it in a heartbeat. I imagine that there are very few private universities with the financial means (boosters) to pull this off.

SMU changed the landscape dramatically and most schools that still have aspirations of landing in a P4 conference will end up doing so with extremely discounted revenues.
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"Hello Tony Petitti, we would like to bring our back-to-back six time national champion MBB and 11-time national champion WBB Blue-Blood basketball programs to the B1G, a conference lacking in basketball, and we only need $10M annually to do it. We can disband our Football program"

"An extra $10M would be a drop in the bucket for Fox, welcome to the B1G"
 
noeynox said:
Two things could be true. The big east has been great and Hurley has stated that they would have had the same success regardless of returning to the Big East. I trust Hurley on this matter over any poster or the twitterati.
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He’s lying to you because it’s the right thing to do. It shows confidence and puts the focus on the program and not the conference. He knows damn well he wouldn’t be doing this in the AAC, but why in hell would he admit it?
 
Hoophound said:
He’s lying to you because it’s the right thing to do. It shows confidence and puts the focus on the program and not the conference. He knows damn well he wouldn’t be doing this in the AAC, but why in hell would he admit it?
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Nah. That's a you problem if you think he's lying. He said that before his success here took off. I take him at his word, you call him a liar. Ollie won a title in the AAC. Hurley landed a top 20 class that included Bouknight in that conference as well. Again 2 things could be true.
 
noeynox said:
Nah. That's a you problem if you think he's lying. He said that before his success here took off. I take him at his word, you call him a liar. Ollie won a title in the AAC. Hurley landed a top 20 class that included Bouknight in that conference as well. Again 2 things could be true.
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This is just silly. If we were rubbing elbows with North Texas and UTSA, we’d be in real trouble.
 
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Hoophound said:
This is just silly. If we were rubbing elbows with North Texas and UTSA, we’d be in real trouble.
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Well that's what it became after we left, not what it was when he was there, which was at the time he was asked and answered the question.
 
cellocgg said:
"Hello Tony Petitti, we would like to bring our back-to-back six time national champion MBB and 11-time national champion WBB Blue-Blood basketball programs to the B1G, a conference lacking in basketball, and we only need $10M annually to do it. We can disband our Football program"

"An extra $10M would be a drop in the bucket for Fox, welcome to the B1G"
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Hmmm. Disband football to get in the Big Ten for non-p4 money? Dream bigger
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I have a strong suspicion that if a decade ago we gave the ACC the same offer that SMU recently gave them we would have been in the ACC a decade ago.

I don't know of any state funded universities that could get away with offering their sports to a conference for zero media revenues as the state governments would veto it in a heartbeat. I imagine that there are very few private universities with the financial means (boosters) to pull this off.

SMU changed the landscape dramatically and most schools that still have aspirations of landing in a P4 conference will end up doing so with extremely discounted revenues.
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It is really foolish to pay a conference member a reduced payout. Why? Don't you want that school to be competitive? Even with the donations to SMU's AD, are they enough to allow SMU to win? Personally, even though SMU has received large donations, I don't think they will have the revenues and fan support to compete in the ACC.
 
cellocgg said:
Dream bigger? Is the Big East with Independent Football big enough for you?
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Bigger than disbanding football with Big Ten basketball for Big East money.

If UConn makes a move it should be for improvement.
 
Zissou said:
Bigger than disbanding football with Big Ten basketball for Big East money.

If UConn makes a move it should be for improvement.
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Without Football to support that's all we would realistically need, maybe 20 - 25M tops, for our other programs and could drastically cut back on the state subsidy

But it's not really about the money, it's about our entire athletic department having the security it needs. Would you rather ensure your athletic department will still be thriving 20 years down the road or not? That's a massive improvement to me
 
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