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[CL82]

Plus ACC bigger presence in Northeast with BC and Syracuse.

Who?

 

[ZooCougar]

Plus ACC bigger presence in Northeast with BC and Syracuse. Much better fit for UConn with many teams from the original Big East.

Not accord to TV.

The Big 10 gets better ratings.

 

[ZooCougar]

Who?

Watching these two have a conversation is pretty funny.

 

[ZooCougar]

Where did you find the data? TIA!

There are a multitude of articles you can find.

Overall participation in sports is down.

While 11 man tackle football is down, participation in 6,8 or 9 man is up as smaller schools have decided that scale is better for them.

Younger kids are playing flag football and not playing tackle football until later on.

Any idea that to football is going extinct is crazy

 

[CJasmer]

Not accord to TV.

The Big 10 gets better ratings.

I meant regional fit. UConn has topped rated basketball. At UConn Football is third behind MBB and WBB- and that is a distance 3rd. ACC is a basketball conference especially once FSU and Clemson leave. In the Big 10 you have not great basketball but very good football.

 

[ZooCougar]

I meant regional fit. UConn has topped rated basketball. At UConn Football is third behind MBB and WBB- and that is a distance 3rd. ACC is a basketball conference especially once FSU and Clemson leave. In the Big 10 you have not great basketball but very good football.

In a world wherr USC is in the same conference as Penn State, regionality doesn’t matter.

 

[CJasmer]

In a world wherr USC is in the same conference as Penn State, regionality doesn’t matter.

Again those are football schools. UConn is a basketball school.

 

[billybud]

I think that the ACC will be transformed....

Would not surprise me to see Louisville and Pitt and Miami picked up by the Big 12.

 

[UConnJim]

There are a multitude of articles you can find.

Overall participation in sports is down.

While 11 man tackle football is down, participation in 6,8 or 9 man is up as smaller schools have decided that scale is better for them.

Younger kids are playing flag football and not playing tackle football until later on.

Any idea that to football is going extinct is crazy

This is what my nephew did. He played flag football as a youth and he did not play tackle football until high school. He is now playing football in college. And, like most good high school football schools, he played a ton of 7v7 football. The NFL says there are over 2.4 million (and growing) Americans between 4 and 17 who are playing flag football.

 

[billybud]

The NAIA offers Women's Flag Football as a varsity sport...

Odd bedfellows,,Marc Rubio, Senator from Florida, and Jeanne Shaheen from New Hampshire have issued a joint letter to the NCAA requesting that Women's Flag be added as a varsity sport.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

There are a multitude of articles you can find.

Overall participation in sports is down.

While 11 man tackle football is down, participation in 6,8 or 9 man is up as smaller schools have decided that scale is better for them.

Younger kids are playing flag football and not playing tackle football until later on.

Any idea that to football is going extinct is crazy

Flag is huge in AZ
Most HS ‘s even have girls varsity as do some of the colleges.
My grandsons girlfriend gave up soccer to play flag. which is interesting because she was very good.
i heard it’s a Demo sport in the next Olympics.

Perry HS down the street from me was lead to 3 , 5A state football championships a few years.
by two brothers . Brock Purdy led SF to the Super Bowl last year the other brother is still playing in college for Nevada .after stops at FSU and Nebraska.
Both only played flag football when they were young , as their father claims it was a better sport for QB development than Pop Warner.
In fact i believe Dan Orlovsky played flag before HS probably because of their size restriction.
.

 

[CJasmer]

Choosing a post raid ACC over the benefits and reach of The B1G is so wild a notion that I’m not sure if this is real or parody.

If this is the actual thought process of even two UConn Fans, then I’d recommend just shuttering the football program entirely and going all in with the Big East. It will save you a ton of money and a lot of heartache as a fanbase.

Yes Big 10 would be great but realistically zero chance. Best chance for UConn is Big 12 or ACC. By the way any information on the amount of new Big East contract?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

I was shocked to discover that more kids play HS football than basketball . I would have bet against that .
There are also more football scholarships between , FBS, FCS , D2 ,and even need scholarships at D3 schools than BB scholarships.
As long as the dream of scholarship exists the sport remains viable .If football ceases to exist except at a few power schools the sport dies from the bottom up.

 

[CL82]

I was shocked to discover that more kids play HS football than basketball . I would have bet against that .

Really? That would be my expectation, particularly given that you have a bit over double the number of people playing at any given time

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Yes Big 10 would be great but realistically zero chance. Best chance for UConn is Big 12 or ACC. By the way any information on the amount of new Big East contract?

I keep checking but it seems to be a well guarded secret . Since it’s multiple media outlets the usual media leakers don't even know It’s total.
The Big East having uneven NCAA distribution was a well guarded secret which surprised me.
You would think these Big East presidents were bound by the seal of confession .

I will keep digging but this is a good read and a hint of an excess of $10,000,000

The Big East's reported media rights package would be a savvy, exciting move

The Big East is reportedly on the verge of striking new TV deals with NBC and TNT, a potentially savvy and exciting move.

awfulannouncing.com

 

[ZooCougar]

Again those are football schools. UConn is a basketball school.

Same principle applies genius.

 

[ZooCougar]

This is what my nephew did. He played flag football as a youth and he did not play tackle football until high school. He is now playing football in college. And, like most good high school football schools, he played a ton of 7v7 football. The NFL says there are over 2.4 million (and growing) Americans between 4 and 17 who are playing flag football.

Flag football camps are everywhere.

7 on 7 is an efficient way to develop skill position players. Like doing small sided drills in soccer to get more touches.

 

[dayooper]

I keep checking but it seems to be a well guarded secret . Since it’s multiple media outlets the usual media leakers don't even know It’s total.
The Big East having uneven NCAA distribution was a well guarded secret which surprised me.
You would think these Big East presidents were bound by the seal of confession .

I will keep digging but this is
a good read and a hint of an excess of $10,000,000

The Big East's reported media rights package would be a savvy, exciting move

The Big East is reportedly on the verge of striking new TV deals with NBC and TNT, a potentially savvy and exciting move.

awfulannouncing.com

TNT losing out on the NBA just might be a boon for college conferences, especially the Big East. They gave money to spend and sports programming to fill. I can see them signing a piece of the Big East to a nice amount. If the Big10 does increase their membership, I can see them selling more content and TNT taking a bite.

 

[dayooper]

Flag football camps are everywhere.

7 on 7 is an efficient way to develop skill position players. Like doing small sided drills in soccer to get more touches.

Many Michigan high schools are now offering girls flag football as a varsity sport (and boys volleyball).

NAIA Sienna Heights (Ann Arbor) has a varsity women’s flag football program. One of my former athletes (she was a starting MLB in 7th grade and a very good tackler) is signed on to play there next year.

 

[CJasmer]

Same principle applies genius.

Sure keep believing that when P2 money is tied 80% to football.

 

[ZooCougar]

Sure keep believing that when P2 money is tied 80% to football.

Since we’re going for the most money and a football home then it’s still irrelevant. Unless you think it’s a good idea to make less and tie our fate to a bunch of tiny dying catholic schools.

 

[UConnJim]

Seems notable that the Hurley contract and the Big East media deal are still not finalized. Wondering if there's an explanation or connection or something else afoot.

There are still negotiating with CBS for a part of the package. The media deal won't be announced until that is completed but I'm sure UConn knows the general numbers already.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

You have three options in football
1. continue what we are doing and try to minimize costs keepimg loses down and just pretemd we’re a player
2. Drop the sport completely and actually join the Big East
3. Make a serious investment in the sport for 5 years , through fundraising and losses and see if we can get in the game
Going FCS Is a bad idea because savings gains are pretty much offset by revenue losses.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You have three options in football
1. continue what we are doing and try to minimize costs keepimg loses down and just pretemd we’re a player
2. Drop the sport completely and actually join the Big East
3. Make a serious investment in the sport for 5 years , through fundraising and losses and see if we can get in the game
Going FCS Is a bad idea because savings gains are pretty much offset by revenue losses.

There are so many moving parts in college athletics that this is not really the choice any school is making.

 

[Bonamassa]

You have three options in football
1. continue what we are doing and try to minimize costs keepimg loses down and just pretemd we’re a player
2. Drop the sport completely and actually join the Big East
3. Make a serious investment in the sport for 5 years , through fundraising and losses and see if we can get in the game
Going FCS Is a bad idea because savings gains are pretty much offset by revenue losses.

#3

 

[AllHusky]

You have three options in football
1. continue what we are doing and try to minimize costs keepimg loses down and just pretemd we’re a player
2. Drop the sport completely and actually join the Big East
3. Make a serious investment in the sport for 5 years , through fundraising and losses and see if we can get in the game
Going FCS Is a bad idea because savings gains are pretty much offset by revenue losses.

Don't see any option but 3. 1 or 2 will hasten our demise, which at some point may happen anyway. If you've read my posts, I am a cheerleader for #3, but over a 10 year life(I assume we are starting year 2.)

 

[billybud]

"We don't have a revenue problem in college sports, we have a spending problem"...Trev Alberts 2024

 

[Zissou]

You have three options in football
1. continue what we are doing and try to minimize costs keepimg loses down and just pretemd we’re a player
2. Drop the sport completely and actually join the Big East
3. Make a serious investment in the sport for 5 years , through fundraising and losses and see if we can get in the game
Going FCS Is a bad idea because savings gains are pretty much offset by revenue losses.

1 or 3 or somewhere in between (not 2). See what happens and keep options open.

 

[billybud]

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[nelsonmuntz]

You have three options in football
1. continue what we are doing and try to minimize costs keepimg loses down and just pretemd we’re a player
2. Drop the sport completely and actually join the Big East
3. Make a serious investment in the sport for 5 years , through fundraising and losses and see if we can get in the game
Going FCS Is a bad idea because savings gains are pretty much offset by revenue losses.

The decline of the linear cable model means every league is looking at a completely new revenue model within 5 years. Together with the House decision making football much more expensive, I don't know how anyone makes any decisions on football in this environment.