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Former UConn Basketball Asst. Makes Serious Accusations Regarding Kevin Ollie In NCAA Investigation

Didn’t Miller put together the coaching plans for the National Championship runs including the last one? I seem to remember interviews where he said they were up all night before each game to formulate those game plans.
 
jibsey said:
Didn’t Miller put together the coaching plans for the National Championship runs including the last one? I seem to remember interviews where he said they were up all night before each game to formulate those game plans.
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Shhhh! You are upsetting the narrative.
 
Paesano said:
Shhhh! You are upsetting the narrative.
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Ollie won that championship, you triggered snowflake. He’s a far better father than you are too!
 
Huskybass said:
The team was bad in Miller's final season, but even worse after he left. The coaching staff was just plain awful from top to bottom last season, not one guy who will really be missed. Miller saw how dysfunctional things were and made it known. KO was going to sink the ship, regardless of any of Miller's actions. You can make Miller out to be the scapegoat all you want, but things were not going to turn around under KO.
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Who is making Miller out to be the scapegoat. Some of us heard he was a major chemistry problem two seasons ago and contributed partially if not mainly with the loss of players after that season. If true then he bears some responsibility for this past seasons results because the coaches were left scrambling to fill those holes. And they filled them with players that were not as good as the ones who bolted.

That doesn’t eliminate the things KO contributed to this past season’s results.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Who is making Miller out to be the scapegoat. Some of us heard he was a major chemistry problem two seasons ago and contributed partially if not mainly with the loss of players after that season. If true then he bears some responsibility for this past seasons results because the coaches were left scrambling to fill those holes. And they filled them with players that were not as good as the ones who bolted.

That doesn’t eliminate the things KO contributed to this past season’s results.
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Those players saw what a dysfunctional mess everything was especially without Miller around. There was no way they were going to hamper their own development by playing for a completely underwhelming coaching staff.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
Who is making Miller out to be the scapegoat. Some of us heard he was a major chemistry problem two seasons ago and contributed partially if not mainly with the loss of players after that season. If true then he bears some responsibility for this past seasons results because the coaches were left scrambling to fill those holes. And they filled them with players that were not as good as the ones who bolted.

That doesn’t eliminate the things KO contributed to this past season’s results.
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Yep, Glen Miller is the main reason all the players transferred out. Lol.
 
fleudslipcon said:
Who is making Miller out to be the scapegoat. Some of us heard he was a major chemistry problem two seasons ago and contributed partially if not mainly with the loss of players after that season. If true then he bears some responsibility for this past seasons results because the coaches were left scrambling to fill those holes. And they filled them with players that were not as good as the ones who bolted.

That doesn’t eliminate the things KO contributed to this past season’s results.
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I thought MAL decommitted because Miller got fired? If so, blaming the other defections on Miller seems to be quite a stretch.

It seems to me those players left when they did because they thought they'd get a better chance to showcase their NBA talents (if any) someplace else. The man in charge of the program bears the ultimate responsibility for that.
 
Paesano said:
And he also had won three national championships and had coached the team for nearly 30 years. He had built up some good will. A TON, actually! Ollie built up some but how much depends on how much of that championship you attribute to him. And then he spent that good will like a drunken sailor by coaching REALLY POORLY and having kids abandon the program like it was the damn Titanic.
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We are more in agreement on this point than not.
 
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Chief00 said:
Fair point. I tried to warn people about GM.
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When you look back and think about it at the time no one could figure out what was going on with the team, K.O., the staff, K.O's relationship with Calhoun, the defections, silence from the AD among a number of other things. Clearly there was a deficit of trust and K.O. had to bring it in and close up like a recluse. he became robotic at the press conferences, aloof and lost for the right words at times. Internally it was a "Crap" show and that is what translated on the court. That is what we witnessed. There are only a couple of narratives that now make sense and actually fit.

You can now directly look back and tie them going back a number of years. The results were all lagging factors and completely exposed K.O.'s strategic mis-management of the internal politics and related power structure putting him in a more desperate position to hit a home run. UCONN continued to miss on major recruits, then the injuries, then defections (3 year set back). He shakes up the staff in year 5 and 6 but it is really too late at this point. The last gasp he had to pull a rabbit out of a hat was for a healthy Gilbert and Jalen Adams completely dominating the league taking that next step which did not happen. Too much pressure was put on a young, poorly constructed team lacking any chemistry.

No one could figure out what was really going on behind the scenes. The picture is slowly coming together now. It's a lot deeper and complex than simply "K.O." forgot how to coach and wasn't committed. Certainly J.C. was the glue early on and once that relationship fractured K.O.s fall here at UCONN was foreseeable. It's tough to determine how much of this was paranoia by K.O. feeling undermined by GM and JC or if the fracture was secured when K.O. decided to go a different direction with G.M. A healthy environment with the political support was critically needed for any shot he had at turning things around. Neither was there and everything storm balled painfully. There wasn't enough time; the clock ran out and here we are. The last few years we were all like "What the Hell is going on!".
 
DMIL said:
When you look back and think about it at the time no one could figure out what was going on with the team, K.O., the staff, K.O's relationship with Calhoun, the defections, silence from the AD among a number of other things. Clearly there was a deficit of trust and K.O. had to bring it in and close up like a recluse. he became robotic at the press conferences, aloof and lost for the right words at times. Internally it was a "Crap" show and that is what translated on the court. That is what we witnessed. There are only a couple of narratives that now make sense and actually fit.

You can now directly look back and tie them going back a number of years. The results were all lagging factors and completely exposed K.O.'s strategic mis-management of the internal politics and related power structure putting him in a more desperate position to hit a home run. UCONN continued to miss on major recruits, then the injuries, then defections (3 year set back). He shakes up the staff in year 5 and 6 but it is really too late at this point. The last gasp he had to pull a rabbit out of a hat was for a healthy Gilbert and Jalen Adams completely dominating the league taking that next step which did not happen. Too much pressure was put on a young, poorly constructed team lacking any chemistry.

No one could figure out what was really going on behind the scenes. The picture is slowly coming together now. It's a lot deeper and complex than simply "K.O." forgot how to coach and wasn't committed. Certainly J.C. was the glue early on and once that relationship fractured K.O.s fall here at UCONN was foreseeable. It's tough to determine how much of this was paranoia by K.O. feeling undermined by GM and JC or if the fracture was secured when K.O. decided to go a different direction with G.M. A healthy environment with the political support was critically needed for any shot he had at turning things around. Neither was there and everything storm balled painfully. There wasn't enough time; the clock ran out and here we are. The last few years we were all like "What the Hell is going on!".
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Some fair points and good analysis. What really hindered KO was a lack of natural political instincts and an organized business like approach to running a major program. His disconnect from many of the players though is the hardest thing for me to understand.
I think at first he was clueless about how bitter Miller was not getting the interim job. The timing of appointing Miller associative head coach after George left was another poor political move by KO. Hobbs who as I recalled got fired late would have been the better choice but the timing was off just a little. So KO was stuck with two guys who should have been in the other’s role.

Ironically, Miller resented KO not JC who picked KO over Miller.
 
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jibsey said:
Didn’t Miller put together the coaching plans for the National Championship runs including the last one? I seem to remember interviews where he said they were up all night before each game to formulate those game plans.
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I can only speak for when Calhoun was here. Once George arrived and after Tom left and maybe even before that - when it came to a tournament game George ALWAYS did the scouting report. No disrespect to anyone else, but his analytical basketball mind was at a whole other level.
 
DMIL said:
When you look back and think about it at the time no one could figure out what was going on with the team, K.O., the staff, K.O's relationship with Calhoun, the defections, silence from the AD among a number of other things. Clearly there was a deficit of trust and K.O. had to bring it in and close up like a recluse. he became robotic at the press conferences, aloof and lost for the right words at times. Internally it was a "Crap" show and that is what translated on the court. That is what we witnessed. There are only a couple of narratives that now make sense and actually fit.

You can now directly look back and tie them going back a number of years. The results were all lagging factors and completely exposed K.O.'s strategic mis-management of the internal politics and related power structure putting him in a more desperate position to hit a home run. UCONN continued to miss on major recruits, then the injuries, then defections (3 year set back). He shakes up the staff in year 5 and 6 but it is really too late at this point. The last gasp he had to pull a rabbit out of a hat was for a healthy Gilbert and Jalen Adams completely dominating the league taking that next step which did not happen. Too much pressure was put on a young, poorly constructed team lacking any chemistry.

No one could figure out what was really going on behind the scenes. The picture is slowly coming together now. It's a lot deeper and complex than simply "K.O." forgot how to coach and wasn't committed. Certainly J.C. was the glue early on and once that relationship fractured K.O.s fall here at UCONN was foreseeable. It's tough to determine how much of this was paranoia by K.O. feeling undermined by GM and JC or if the fracture was secured when K.O. decided to go a different direction with G.M. A healthy environment with the political support was critically needed for any shot he had at turning things around. Neither was there and everything storm balled painfully. There wasn't enough time; the clock ran out and here we are. The last few years we were all like "What the Hell is going on!".
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This is pretty much my take as well. Very well stated.

He also lost Zach Brown and had horrible luck with injuries.
 
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UConnNick said:
I believe it has been established here that at least Calhoun's last contract contained virtually the same language about compliance with rules as Ollie's contract does.
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A couple questions that will clarify why I raised the issue.
What was the date Calhoun's last contract was signed?
Were any of Calhoun's violations for which the NCAA imposed penalties committed after the date that contract was signed?
If not, then Ollie's lawyer shouldn't be able to use violations by Calhoun as a defense or mitigating factor for penalties for Ollie.
 
Chief00 said:
Some fair points and good analysis. What really hindered KO was a lack of natural political instincts and an organized business like approach to running a major program. His disconnect from many of the players though is the hardest thing for me to understand.
I think at first he was clueless about how bitter Miller was not getting the interim job. The timing of appointing Miller associative head coach after George left was another poor political move by KO. Hobbs who as I recalled got fired late would have been the better choice but the timing was off just a little. So KO was stuck with two guys who should have been in the other’s role.

Ironically, Miller resented KO not JC who picked KO over Miller.
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Glen Miller was never getting the job, everyone knew that including Glen Miller.
 
Chief00 said:
Some fair points and good analysis. What really hindered KO was a lack of natural political instincts and an organized business like approach to running a major program. His disconnect from many of the players though is the hardest thing for me to understand.
I think at first he was clueless about how bitter Miller was not getting the interim job. The timing of appointing Miller associative head coach after George left was another poor political move by KO. Hobbs who as I recalled got fired late would have been the better choice but the timing was off just a little. So KO was stuck with two guys who should have been in the other’s role.

Ironically, Miller resented KO not JC who picked KO over Miller.
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This whole thing is like a giant soap opera. I will be so happy when it's settled and fades into the past. We have so much to look forward to. Spinning our wheels over this is getting really stale.
 
superjohn said:
Glen Miller was never getting the job, everyone knew that including Glen Miller.
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I agree most thought that. Of course, that begs the question, why? Miller had more coaching experience blah, blah.

Regardless of what Miller thought would happen, I think it’s fair to say there were indications that Miller became resentful, and it surfaced more after KO met with some failure as coach. My sense is then GM thought he might have a more receptive audience. Simply, he thought he could do a better job and then he started undermining KO. I am not excusing KO’s performance or blaming anyone but KO for that. Just that there was some undermining going on. Never a good thing.
 
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Chief00 said:
Some fair points and good analysis. What really hindered KO was a lack of natural political instincts and an organized business like approach to running a major program. His disconnect from many of the players though is the hardest thing for me to understand.
I think at first he was clueless about how bitter Miller was not getting the interim job. The timing of appointing Miller associative head coach after George left was another poor political move by KO. Hobbs who as I recalled got fired late would have been the better choice but the timing was off just a little. So KO was stuck with two guys who should have been in the other’s role.

Ironically, Miller resented KO not JC who picked KO over Miller.
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You just made that up and obviously don't know Miller. The scenario is why would someone who became coach turn on those that helped him so much. It maybe the divorce or it maybe the others he hired. But it was bad judgment and unfortunately we are where we are. I believe almost everyone on this board wanted Ollie to be huge success and this result was the last thing fans wanted or expected.
 
SECONN said:
You just made that up and obviously don't know Miller. The scenario is why would someone who became coach turn on those that helped him so much. It maybe the divorce or it maybe the others he hired. But it was bad judgment and unfortunately we are where we are. I believe almost everyone on this board wanted Ollie to be huge success and this result was the last thing fans wanted or expected.
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Just because a guy is from your part of the state geographically - doesn’t mandate that you defend him. As for KO, if you read my many posts - I have been very critical. But, GM introducing heresy to smear a guy in his profession is something you can never put enough lipstick on for me. He is effectively bared from D1 coaching now and this was after no one would hire him anyways.
 
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Scrutiner said:
Were any of Calhoun's violations for which the NCAA imposed penalties committed after the date that contract was signed?
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I thought this as well. The answer is no.
 
Chief00 said:
I agree most thought that. Of course, that begs the question, why? Miller had more coaching experience blah, blah.

Regardless of what Miller thought would happen, I think it’s fair to say there were indications that Miller became resentful, and it surfaced more after KO met with some failure as coach. My sense is then GM thought he might have a more receptive audience. Simply, he thought he could do a better job and then he started undermining KO. I am not excusing KO’s performance or blaming anyone but KO for that. Just that there was some undermining going on. Never a good thing.
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Chief you've been working on overdrive to keep blaming Miller for Ollie's ineptitude including his famous zone defense. No one was undermining Ollie, he was just the typical paranoid Pollyanna who after winning a title became so arrogant as not to respect the people that helped him along the way.

Miller like Calhoun tried hard to help Ollie, but he was resentful, petty, and insecure, which only intensified after his coaching debacles. Ollie wanted to be seen as his own man and not some lackey, and surrounded himself with people that made him feel secure.

PS: You think Calhoun had no idea that Miller was "cooperating" with the NCAA on behalf of the university? You can be sure that Calhoun is pissed of at Ollie as well. Miller is loyal to Calhoun, always has been and always will be.
 
CL82 said:
I thought this as well. The answer is no.
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What about the contract before Calhoun's last one? If that contained similar compliance language, that could still be relied upon by Ollie to throw mud. Otherwise, it raises the really ugly possibility that Ollie will expose violations he personally knows about, from his tenure as an assistant, that are not public knowledge as of yet.
 
superjohn said:
There was a reason nobody else was going after Zach Brown.
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I distinctly remember you, @Chief00 and myself warning this forum from the beginning Zach was trouble. But everyone else was enamored over his ranking. Remember how sappy they became over his homeless story thinking Zach was Caron 2.0?

Not until he was dismissed from his CT school and we dropped him did some posters agree with us. Still others argued we should not have released him. What can one expect from casual fans.

After his first arrest everyone agreed we dodged a bullet. Everyone except the Johnnies who waited until his second more serious crime before they announced they withdrew the schollie.
 
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