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The problem with UConn’s resume is that it points to an 8-5 year and a blowout bowl as the primo year.

You get more latitude when you finish top 10 once…more so for multiple appearances.
 
It is indeed thinning the herd...Actuallythe herd was thinned thinned it a ways back, almost painlessly...

First P5 and G5...then P4...then P2

I think that the Big 12 may go the opposite way.

Try to take UConn, Duke, Virginia...and be the premier basketball conference.
 
billybud said:
It is indeed thinning the herd...Actuallythe herd was thinned thinned it a ways back, almost painlessly...

First P5 and G5...then P4...then P2

I think that the Big 12 may go the opposite way.

Try to take UConn, Duke, Virginia...and be the premier basketball conference.
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when?
 
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billybud said:
It is indeed thinning the herd...Actuallythe herd was thinned thinned it a ways back, almost painlessly...

First P5 and G5...then P4...then P2

I think that the Big 12 may go the opposite way.

Try to take UConn, Duke, Virginia...and be the premier basketball conference.
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General question for you:

Do you believe that thinning the herd is a good thing or a bad thing?
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Billybud specifically.
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I was thinking Deepster myself. This past years half assed mojo effort was an embarrassment.
 
KryHavok said:
And despite that massive blowout, UConn's loss against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl is more of a big deal. Our team was overwhelmed, but at least they fought. Other team, nah, they get a free pass for laying a massive dump.
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That's a big reason I was so against bringing back Edsall. The biggest game in UConn history, we did not get 100% from him and are still paying the price. And yet UConn rewarded him with millons of dollars down the road.
 
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billybud said:
It is indeed thinning the herd...Actuallythe herd was thinned thinned it a ways back, almost painlessly...

First P5 and G5...then P4...then P2

I think that the Big 12 may go the opposite way.

Try to take UConn, Duke, Virginia...and be the premier basketball conference.
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"Painlessly?" The exact opposite. Contracting rather than expanding makes no sense at all. First it killed Big East Football, then it destroyed a great PAC 12 conference. Athletic conferences stretching coast-to-coast across 4 time zones. Elite programs continue to sell their souls joining conferences which will damper their success and only be a negative for student-athletes and fans. Endless consternation across hundreds of fan sites trying to figure out what will happen next. Legal wranglings. It's a complete cluster fork and makes no sense.
 
Waquoit said:
That's a big reason I was so against bringing back Edsall. The biggest game in UConn history, we did not get 100% from him and are still paying the price. And yet UConn rewarded him with millons of dollars down the road.
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Quite a feat that he will be forever perceived as they guy who was responsible for our ascendency (beating Notre Dame, getting to the Fiesta Bowl, and beating SEC South Carolina in a bowl as my top 3) while also being responsible for our demise; TBH, he shares that distinction with Suzy & Warde. I would have rather had some college or NFL retread coach (vis-a-vis Mora...hell even a high school coach) than Edsall era 2.
 
KryHavok said:
Quite a feat that he will be forever perceived as they guy who was responsible for our ascendency (beating Notre Dame, getting to the Fiesta Bowl, and beating SEC South Carolina in a bowl as my top 3) while also being responsible for our demise; TBH, he shares that distinction with Suzy & Warde. I would have rather had some college or NFL retread coach (vis-a-vis Mora...hell even a high school coach) than Edsall era 2.
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Edsall was never the same after he left in 2011. I like to think it was karma for the way he left, but it could also be that he couldn't live up the expectations/pressure at Maryland and the second stint at UConn.
 
Kolumbo said:
"Painlessly?" The exact opposite. Contracting rather than expanding makes no sense at all. First it killed Big East Football, then it destroyed a great PAC 12 conference. Athletic conferences stretching coast-to-coast across 4 time zones. Elite programs continue to sell their souls joining conferences which will damper their success and only be a negative for student-athletes and fans. Endless consternation across hundreds of fan sites trying to figure out what will happen next. Legal wranglings. It's a complete cluster fork and makes no sense.
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Painlessly for the perpetrators. No law suits. No sweat for the B1G and SEC.
 
The cartel captured the CFP. The media money….and no kickback yet that worries them.
 
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I guess, if you are in pain, you react to the word “painless “. I was actually thinking of the ease that the Borg have had consolidating and pushing their agenda.
 
billybud said:
I was actually thinking of the ease that the Borg have had consolidating and pushing their agenda.
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I wish the BIG12 went full Borg and assimilated UConn. "We will add your (basketball) biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your (football) culture will adapt to service us.".
 
KryHavok said:
I wish the BIG12 went full Borg and assimilated UConn. "We will add your (basketball) biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your (football) culture will adapt to service us."
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I do think that the Big 12 might augment basketball with UConn and Duke.
 
KryHavok said:
Quite a feat that he will be forever perceived as they guy who was responsible for our ascendency (beating Notre Dame, getting to the Fiesta Bowl, and beating SEC South Carolina in a bowl as my top 3) while also being responsible for our demise; TBH, he shares that distinction with Suzy & Warde. I would have rather had some college or NFL retread coach (vis-a-vis Mora...hell even a high school coach) than Edsall era 2.
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I still blame Hathaway as the real culprit behind UConn's current situation. Man couldn't find hustle if it smacked around and kissed him.
 
BlueHen said:
Edsall was never the same after he left in 2011. I like to think it was karma for the way he left, but it could also be that he couldn't live up the expectations/pressure at Maryland and the second stint at UConn.
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If you took him as I did... iffy gameday coach, great talent evaluator, then you knew he was cooked no matter where he went because they wanted improvements right away with no backwards steps. It hurt more that over the time the game also passed him by. Edsall had so much at UConn but like all people he got an ego thinking he was better than what he was getting. Hathaway harmed the school so bad by his inactivity around the school. So i'm sure Edsall wanted to get out while the price was good.
 
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I put a ton of blame on Warde too. He was hired because he had an award from the NCAA for cleaning up Buffalo’s APR mess. But he was never ever committed to UConn. Nothing but a stepping stone for him. He was talking about Michigan from his first day on the job it seemed. He and Lax Susie were a horrible team at a critical moment. He hired both Diaco AND Ollie. He didn’t take Louisville seriously as a rival for the ACC.
 
McMurpjy is uninformed on the subject re Florida..obviously.

...just maybe different states have different laws re what are confidential and not public information.

But...that is not as click worthy as his "rah, rah, Big 12" comment.

Case Law exists in Florida...the NCAA tried to maintain that a record that they let FSU attorneys access in a read only mode were confidential and thus were not released. The Associated Press filed suit to access that information.

Judge Cooper in Florida's Leon County Court (the same judge hearing FSU vs NCAA currently) ruled that the NCAA must release the documents.

It was appealed to the Appeals Court...the NCAA lost..

Records created and maintained by the NCAA are not generally subject to public disclosure. However, the documents at issue in this case were examined by lawyers for a public agency, Florida State University, and used in the course of the agency's business. Because the documents were received in connection with the transaction of official business by an agency, they are public records. The NCAA has failed to show that an exception applies under state or federal law, and thus the records must be disclosed.

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The term “received” in section 119.011(12) refers not only to a situation in which a public agent takes physical delivery of a document, but also to one in which a public agent examines a document residing on a remote computer. If that were not the case, a party could easily circumvent the public records laws. The appeal by the University is a matter of public concern. It is not transformed into a private matter merely because the documents the University lawyers used to prepare the appeal reside on a computer owned by a private organization. As the plaintiffs expressed this point, the definition of a public record does not turn on the sender's method of transmission.

The lawyers signed a confidentiality agreement with the NCAA, but that has no impact on our decision that the transcript and response are public records. A public record cannot be transformed into a private record merely because an agent of the government has promised that it will be kept private. See Gadd v. News-Press Publ'g Co., 412 So.2d 894, 896 (Fla. 2d DCA 1982); Browning v. Walton, 351 So.2d 380, 381 (Fla. 4th DCA 1977). Nor is it material that the NCAA had an expectation that the documents would remain private. As we explained in Sepro Corp. v. Florida Department of Environmental Protection, 839 So.2d 781, 784 (Fla. 1st DCA 2003), “[A] private party cannot render public records exempt from disclosure merely by designating information it furnishes a governmental agency confidential.” The right to examine these records is a right belonging to the public; it cannot be bargained away by a representative of the government.

For law weenies only:
 
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