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OT: Fatts Russell in the transfer portal

AntG168 said:
What's a joke is thinking that's at all what we were talking about. I definitely understand the argument against Fatts, i just disagree. What we were discussing was how good of a player he was. I think he's much closer to Boat than many realize. Also how would Bazz and Boat have faired in this big east? Go ahead say something dumb......
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Thinking Fatts and anyone on this UConn roster is comparable to Bazz and Boat is your first problem
 
AntG168 said:
What's a joke is thinking that's at all what we were talking about. I definitely understand the argument against Fatts, i just disagree. What we were discussing was how good of a player he was. I think he's much closer to Boat than many realize. Also how would Bazz and Boat have faired in this big east? Go ahead say something dumb......
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Given they won a title in which they beat Villanova—the Big East's best team that year—in Philadelphia by double digits even though Shabazz had to miss most of the first half, I think they'd have done just fine.

I think you're way underselling how good Boatright was.
 
tzznandrew said:
The difference between 41% from 3 and 36% is pretty dramatic over the course of the season. Especially when that 36% was an outlier.

If we do career from 3 it's 38% from Boat and 28% from Fatts.

In other words, Boat was a much better shooter in addition to being a better athlete and (though Fatts is a good defender) a better defender.
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I tend to think he improved his shooting over his career. He was injured last season. If he was healthy i do not believe he wouldve shot 24% from 3. He never got a chance to gain a rythm last season. Junior Year Fatts is the real Fatts imo. But again thats just my opinion
 
Kemba15 said:
Thinking Fatts and anyone on this UConn roster is comparable to Bazz and Boat is your first problem
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You said he wouldn't fair well because of his size lmaoo. So, i brought up to players with similar size. Don't duck the question. Size is not the problem and not why we couldnt beat teams with bigger guards. So anyone saying they don't want Fatts because the guys in the big east are too "big and strong" are way off. And again Fatts and Boat ain't that different lol. Of course he isnt Bazz
 
AntG168 said:
I tend to think he improved his shooting over his career. He was injured last season. If he was healthy i do not believe he wouldve shot 24% from 3. He never got a chance to gain a rythm last season. Junior Year Fatts is the real Fatts imo. But again thats just my opinion
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Maybe you're right.

Even if you are, this team doesn't need a 5'10" kid who shoots 38% from the field and a hair under 36% from 3.

Again, I like Fatts and he's going to be good on a different team. If we're talking about whether or not he is a good player...well, he is. If we're talking about whether or not he should come to UConn...I think there are better fits for both parties.
 
tzznandrew said:
Maybe you're right.

Even if you are, this team doesn't need a 5'10" kid who shoots 38% from the field and a hair under 36% from 3.

Again, I like Fatts and he's going to be good on a different team. If we're talking about whether or not he is a good player...well, he is. If we're talking about whether or not he should come to UConn...I think there are better fits for both parties.
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And Maybe i'm wrong lol. But i think had fatts come here you could expect something along the lines of 41-43% from 2 and 38-40% from 3
 
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What's the skinny on Fatts? I don't think he sees himself as a bench player or a role player next year. Has impressive list of suitors and Dan Hurley ,out of respect for Fatts.,can't promise him the PT that Fatts is looking for at his next stop.

Also think Dan Hurley is loyal to his PG candidates for next year and has sold Sool on PT .

Haven't seen Fatts enough to compare to Boatright but his shooting percentages in a year when he was playing hurt and his team needed him to score don't concern me.

Danny's call. If he sees a need --he certainly knows Fatts as well as anyone. Trust the Carpenter.
 
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bendm said:
FIFY

i said fatts and 2 other shooters that means 3. the shooters would be a wing and a stretch 4

if you were pointing out my semicolon typo then you should have assumed I meant 5 players, not 4: fatts, two shooters, a wing, and a stretch 4...

always looking for a reason to prove me wrong idk why...usually about the most trivial stuff too.
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It's unintentional, I like most of your posts but respond to stuff I disagree with or in this case thought you were talking about filling 4 ships.
djct1999 said:
Its an insecurity of his. It comes from stating his opinion as fact then often times being extremly wrong. Its what he does. When he digs himself even deeper, he usually reverts to name calling.
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This guy said Cole was exposed defensively more than any other UConn regular this season, I responded and said I think that's all wrong. He then said Cole couldn't stay in front of Zegs. I responded by pointing out Cole held Zegs under his season averages in pts., fg %, and assists this season and he throws a tantrum saying I twisted his words around and he's still throwing a tantrum saying I twisted his words a week later.
 
superjohn said:
It's unintentional, I like most of your posts but respond to stuff I disagree with or in this case thought you were talking about filling 4 ships.

This guy said Cole was exposed defensively more than any other UConn regular this season, I responded and said I think that's all wrong. He then said Cole couldn't stay in front of Zegs. I responded by pointing out Cole held Zegs under his season averages in pts., fg %, and assists this season and he throws a tantrum saying I twisted his words around and he's still throwing a tantrum saying I twisted his words a week later.
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No tantrum here. Just calling you out for the continued nonsense you push on here as fact.
 
AntG168 said:
He's Ryan Boatright esque. And thats not hyperbole
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Hard disagree here.

Career shooting rates
Boatright: 40.9 2p%, 28.1 3p%
Russell: 43.8 2p%, 38.0 3p%

I can't see better talent improving Russell's 3p% by 10%, let alone 5%.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Hard disagree here.

Career shooting rates
Boatright: 40.9 2p%, 28.1 3p%
Russell: 43.8 2p%, 38.0 3p%

I can't see better talent improving Russell's 3p% by 10%, let alone 5%.
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Career stats have zero to do with my point. I’m speaking in Junior year Fatts. I don’t count last year, he barely played consistent minutes and was hurt. Junior year Fatts shot 36% from 3 and 38% from 2. Surrounding him with better talent, shots, and structure increases his efficiency by 3-4 percentage points easily imo
 
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AntG168 said:
You just described Ryan Boatright. Boat was a slightly better shooter that played with WAAAAAAAY better talent. Surround Fatts with better offensive talent and his efficiency numbers would increase. Fatts may be faster than Boat, with boat being the better leaper. But we're really splitting hairs at that point
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Nah he would be playing against better players in the Big East as well not the A10 defenders. This is fine we’re not on this list people are overestimating what his value would’ve been. He’d be worst than what Bouk brought us the last few games and look how he got killed. All worked out. Hes just a good player and a streaky at absolute best shooter. We have those need BETTER shooters.
 
mauconnfan said:
Nah he would be playing against better players in the Big East as well not the A10 defenders. This is fine we’re not on this list people are overestimating what his value would’ve been. He’d be worst than what Bouk brought us the last few games and look how he got killed. All worked out. Hes just a good player and a streaky at absolute best shooter. We have those need BETTER shooters.
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I get it, he isn’t a perfect player by any means, or he probably would’ve never even been at URI. I just think we can use his skill set more than some think. One of our biggest issue this season is we had no one who could break down a defense and get into the paint consistently. When you consistently get into the paint it creates better 3 point opportunities, which in return would make us a better shooting team. We still have no one who can do that. Maybe sool? I just hate relying on freshman. There is no perfect player out there. But with 3 open scholarships we could’ve afforded to take a flyer on Fatts. “Better Shooters” don’t matter if you can’t get them good clean looks. That’s just my opinion, doesn’t mean it’s the right one, or I’d be the one making 4 million to coach lol
 
What's happening with that guard from Penn State? Mereon is it?

15 ppg playing against good competition. He has experience which a freshman does not have.

Is he not one of the "good shooters" that we need? If he can create his own shot or can get to a screen (if any our players can create one), then I would sign him up if there is mutual interest.

I agree that without a good shooter of two, a clogged paint does not help the team. I get it about needing a penetrator to open it up for other players, but who is to say the penetrator, Fatts in particular, will be effective in the BE as opposed to the A10?

The Penn state guard, if interested, and I have never seen him play, seems like someone that could fulfill a need.
 
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Our point guards are smallxd
tentoes4rings said:
After watching Adams for three years and Martin wilt against good competition I’m all set on RI players, thanks.
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i watched URI 30+ Times the past two years I barely noticed Martin last year. Fatts is Boatright-ease. Super quick. Shot well as a junior. We don’t have any quick guys and he’s a jet. I seriously didn’t even notice Martin.
 
Improviser said:
What's happening with that guard from Penn State? Mereon is it?

15 ppg playing against good competition. He has experience which a freshman does not have.

Is he not one of the "good shooters" that we need? If he can create his own shot or can get to a screen (if any our players can create one), then I would sign him up if there is mutual interest.

I agree that without a good shooter of two, a clogged paint does not help the team. I get it about needing a penetrator to open it up for other players, but who is to say the penetrator, Fatts in particular, will be effective in the BE as opposed to the A10?

The Penn state guard, if interested, and I have never seen him play, seems like someone that could fulfill a need.
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We haven't reached out to him yet, did reach out to Seth Lundy from Penn State though
 
navery12 said:
We haven't reached out to him yet, did reach out to Seth Lundy from Penn State though
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PSU‘s Lundy = gritty NJ kid, bad % shooter = Hurley reach out
PSU‘s Jones = big time scorer in B10, good % shooter, but not from NJ = Hurley not reach out


this trend is a little concerning. We have enough role, one-dimensional players.
 
rip7774 said:
PSU‘s Lundy = gritty NJ kid, bad % shooter = Hurley reach out
PSU‘s Jones = big time scorer in B10, good % shooter, but not from NJ = Hurley not reach out


this trend is a little concerning. We have enough role, one-dimensional players.
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We certainly need finesse over grit right now
 
rip7774 said:
PSU‘s Lundy = gritty NJ kid, bad % shooter = Hurley reach out
PSU‘s Jones = big time scorer in B10, good % shooter, but not from NJ = Hurley not reach out


this trend is a little concerning. We have enough role, one-dimensional players.
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I would like us to reach out to Jones but that classification is not at all accurate. Jones shot better from 3 but they shot almost identical FG% and Lundy was better on 2 point FG%. EFG% and TS% were slightly better for Lundy too

Lundy / Jones
FG%: 38.8% / 39.5%
2P%: 44.3% / 41.4%
3P%: 34.9% / 37.6%
eFG%: 49% / 48.8%
TS%: 52.4% / 52.1%
 
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Some guys like Fatts some don’t. Guess it’s the same with Martin. Oh well I’m glad with the one we will have.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Given they won a title in which they beat Villanova—the Big East's best team that year—in Philadelphia by double digits even though Shabazz had to miss most of the first half, I think they'd have done just fine.

I think you're way underselling how good Boatright was.
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It was in Buffalo
 
navery12 said:
I would like us to reach out to Jones but that classification is not at all accurate. Jones shot better from 3 but they shot almost identical FG% and Lundy was better on 2 point FG%. EFG% and TS% were slightly better for Lundy too

Lundy / Jones
FG%: 38.8% / 39.5%
2P%: 44.3% / 41.4%
3P%: 34.9% / 37.6%
eFG%: 49% / 48.8%
TS%: 52.4% / 52.1%
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Stats. look comparable and Lundy is a wing who can rebound. Unless I am missing something, if both can shoot, but the other can get us rebounds too, wouldn't Lundy be the better prospect or better meet our needs?

What I don't know is if Jones is a penetrator who can kick the ball out? If so, that may swing it in his favor unless Hurley wants to offer both.
 
rip7774 said:
PSU‘s Lundy = gritty NJ kid, bad % shooter = Hurley reach out
PSU‘s Jones = big time scorer in B10, good % shooter, but not from NJ = Hurley not reach out


this trend is a little concerning. We have enough role, one-dimensional players.
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Actually Lundy is from Philly. He came out of Roman Catholic.
 
On Fatts Instagram he was just in CT, and now he’s in Allentown with Rese. It probably means zilch, but interesting none the less
 
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