Fagnano it is

[Husky68]

What I don't understand is that if the top QB position was won between two or even three even guys why not find a method to get more than one real reps. We (and that includes Mora) have no idea how much better or worse TR would look in real game situations vs. practice as he has (not including PS) less than a dozen offensive live plays at this level. As UConn's defense showed its hard to stop a good running QB.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

And some of us have gotten to used to mediocrity.

Uh given the last ten years I'd kill for mediocrity

 

[RSTuthill]

I think you have over blown expectations; we moved the ball and we covered the spread against a team with more talent. Two years ago we couldn't even beat Holy Cross.

We are coming to the end of the era when that will be even partially acceptable, however.

I was quite excited after the first series. But then that QB and those WR's never reentered the game and the play calling lost its way.

I think the deal is that TR is not available. There was a reference made in a deliberately offhand manner that he had a minor arm injury a week before the QB downselect was made. Then on the day there was a bunch of confusion. Guessing there was an MRI the that day or the day before. Did we see TR actually throwing in warmups or on the sideline Thursday night?

 

[Dezoworld]

D
Same typical uconn team no passing game. Can't score when it counts. Horrible tackling I'll give them a C for the first game of the season

 

[RC111]

The comparison can’t be “ well he is better than the #3 guy on our quarterback depth chart”. We need him to be an average D1 quarterback. 200 yards/game passing. I think last year the anverage was 218/game last year. We were 107. If he can’t out perform Zion Turner, he should be out there, honestly. Add some rushing yard though those can be tough to count for the position because the NCAA count sacks as negative rushes. And didn’t we have enough of game manager quarterbacks during the Edsall 2 years? We need a guy who can make plays. Not somebody who throws dumb passes but someone who can make them.

Oh, I totally agree. We need better. But I made my statement because a lot of people are clamoring for ZT, the#3. So for some that comparison IS necessary. I think Fagnano at least has a bit more poise, if for no other reason than that he has played more. All I am saying is that if the coaches think he is the BEST option right now, I trust them.

And I've had 3 ACL surgeries. My money is on Roberson not being 100%. They're smart and not going to dampen confidence by saying, "We're doing the best we can with this guy..." That's no good for the psychology of the team or the guy that's got to play.

Lastly, we brought in DBs from Washington and WVU. We brought in WRs from Austin Peay and Delaware. Not a knock on those guys, and I'm sure they'll help us, but it's unrealistic to have the same expectations of the offense and defense right now. Defensive players want to play for a former NFL coach and D coordinator. Let's be real: Charlton doesn't have the same appeal for offensive transfers. I think we're seeing that play out. Missed routes, less separation, etc. A lot of this is on the WRs.

But as I said in my first post -- give it time, cause they'll make good in the end.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Our offense will appear substantially better in all but perhaps two games this year; Tennessee and possibly Duke.

NC St was able to handle our offensive line with a three man rush. I'm not sure anyone we will face other than Tennessee will be able to do the same. That in itself will help our passing game in most games going forward. As the season progresses, most of our players should improve as well.

I don't know the health situation of our QB'S (and I did post not long ago that I believe we will play more than one starting QB this season) but jumping to the conclusions that a few on here have reached is a bit ridiculous.

 

[Gburyhusky]

We are coming to the end of the era when that will be even partially acceptable, however.

I was quite excited after the first series. But then that QB and those WR's never reentered the game and the play calling lost its way.

I think the deal is that TR is not available. There was a reference made in a deliberately offhand manner that he had a minor arm injury a week before the QB downselect was made. Then on the day there was a bunch of confusion. Guessing there was an MRI the that day or the day before. Did we see TR actually throwing in warmups or on the sideline Thursday night?

Yes he threw on the sidelines

 

[Hoophound]

Our offense will appear substantially better in all but perhaps two games this year; Tennessee and possibly Duke.

NC St was able to handle our offensive line with a three man rush. I'm not sure anyone we will face other than Tennessee will be able to do the same. That in itself will help our passing game in most games going forward. As the season progresses, most of our players should improve as well.

I don't know the health situation of our QB'S (and I did post not long ago that I believe we will play more than one starting QB this season) but jumping to the conclusions that a few on here have reached is a bit ridiculous.

Based on the effusive praise of Roberson that we heard from Charlton two weeks ago, I’m pretty sure he’s hurt and was the intended starter.

I really prefer a mobile QB, even over a premier passer. We are competing against a lot of P5 of teams that will often be bigger and/or faster, a mobile QB really helps to negate some of that.

 

[SuperHuski]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on the tone of some of the comments here, but Fagnano wasn't that bad. He looked worst than his actual performance because of his receivers and the relatively simplistic passing schemes.

NC State was planning man pretty much all night and our receivers could not win their 1on1 coverage. OK so if the receivers can't win their matchups, then you need to adjust your offensive schemes. There are a lot of ways to do that (stack formations, cross routes, pick blocks, pre-snap motions, option routes, slants, etc.) The goal of all of that is to create confusion, make the defense guess more. We did do some pre-snaps but I don't recall hearing any audibles or play adjustments at the line. We had some slants to the TE towards the end of the game when NC State switched to prevent defense. No idea why we didn't do to it sooner.

Not to fuel the Roberson fire, but a dual-threat QB would have also been a good counter to NC State's defense. We're so lucky that our o-line is so good. It could've been so much worst.

Gadget plays tendency aside, I don't think Charlton is an idiot. It looks like the playbook isn't fully open yet. I'm guessing we have too many new receivers and not enough time to go through the intermediate and advance stuff of the playbook. Passing is all about timing and repetition. For this reason, I think it'll get better as the season goes on.

 

[PNolanFan]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on the tone of some of the comments here, but Fagnano wasn't that bad. He looked worst than his actual performance because of his receivers and the relatively simplistic passing schemes.

NC State was planning man pretty much all night and our receivers could not win their 1on1 coverage. OK so if the receivers can't win their matchups, then you need to adjust your offensive schemes. There are a lot of ways to do that (stack formations, cross routes, pick blocks, pre-snap motions, option routes, slants, etc.) The goal of all of that is to create confusion, make the defense guess more. We did do some pre-snaps but I don't recall hearing any audibles or play adjustments at the line. We had some slants to the TE towards the end of the game when NC State switched to prevent defense. No idea why we didn't do to it sooner.

Not to fuel the Roberson fire, but a dual-threat QB would have also been a good counter to NC State's defense. We're so lucky that our o-line is so good. It could've been so much worst.

Gadget plays tendency aside, I don't think Charlton is an idiot. It looks like the playbook isn't fully open yet. I'm guessing we have too many new receivers and not enough time to go through the intermediate and advance stuff of the playbook. Passing is all about timing and repetition. For this reason, I think it'll get better as the season goes on.

I think that the nc state game was very different then most of the games on our schedule. I am thinking that we played a super conservative scheme since our coaching staff recognized that we are in a huge talent disadvantage against NC state. They have like 15 4 star recruits and we have maybe 1 or 2. The coaching staff may have wanted to try to play a close game and hope for a big break which never came. I am ok with that strategy but if they had one turnover or a few calls went the other way we could have won. I am ok with the game plan as long as they adjust now that we are playing on an even talent footing most of the rest of the year

 

[Hamms30]

NC State runs a 3 3 5 defense. The point of the defense is to stop spread passing offenses. People here are roasting a quarterback for not throwing all over a defense whose primary purpose is to not be thrown all over. That defense is what everybody was hoping Billy Crocker's defense would have been a few years ago for us. In a perfect world, we'd have put our fists in the dirt and just busted up the middle to force more people in the box and then play the game of rushing off the edge or throwing down field. NC State has a very athletic defense.

 

[Chin Diesel]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on the tone of some of the comments here, but Fagnano wasn't that bad. He looked worst than his actual performance because of his receivers and the relatively simplistic passing schemes.

NC State was planning man pretty much all night and our receivers could not win their 1on1 coverage. OK so if the receivers can't win their matchups, then you need to adjust your offensive schemes. There are a lot of ways to do that (stack formations, cross routes, pick blocks, pre-snap motions, option routes, slants, etc.) The goal of all of that is to create confusion, make the defense guess more. We did do some pre-snaps but I don't recall hearing any audibles or play adjustments at the line. We had some slants to the TE towards the end of the game when NC State switched to prevent defense. No idea why we didn't do to it sooner.

Not to fuel the Roberson fire, but a dual-threat QB would have also been a good counter to NC State's defense. We're so lucky that our o-line is so good. It could've been so much worst.

Gadget plays tendency aside, I don't think Charlton is an idiot. It looks like the playbook isn't fully open yet. I'm guessing we have too many new receivers and not enough time to go through the intermediate and advance stuff of the playbook. Passing is all about timing and repetition. For this reason, I think it'll get better as the season goes on.

And this is why you need a QB who can run in college.

If D is playing MTM, QB needs to be able to take off and be at least as fast as LB's to punish teams for playing man to man.

 

[superjohn]

NC State runs a 3 3 5 defense. The point of the defense is to stop spread passing offenses. People here are roasting a quarterback for not throwing all over a defense whose primary purpose is to not be thrown all over. That defense is what everybody was hoping Billy Crocker's defense would have been a few years ago for us. In a perfect world, we'd have put our fists in the dirt and just busted up the middle to force more people in the box and then play the game of rushing off the edge or throwing down field. NC State has a very athletic defense.

So you're saying Charlton is the problem. I tend to agree with you.

 

[Hamms30]

So you're saying Charlton is the problem. I tend to agree with you.

I mean, the edges are supposed to be the weak spot of that defense, but for whatever reason it seemed we were struggling to make progress. So, yea at some point you'd hope Charlton would have different ideas to attack different spots, but it's possible too that we were just physically outmatched and the odds were against us. I didn't like the gimmick play calls or when they were used though.

 

[SuperHuski]

NC State runs a 3 3 5 defense. The point of the defense is to stop spread passing offenses. People here are roasting a quarterback for not throwing all over a defense whose primary purpose is to not be thrown all over. That defense is what everybody was hoping Billy Crocker's defense would have been a few years ago for us. In a perfect world, we'd have put our fists in the dirt and just busted up the middle to force more people in the box and then play the game of rushing off the edge or throwing down field. NC State has a very athletic defense.

Right, so stuff like RPOs, play action, outside runs, screens, options, etc. would have been great to see. Stuff Roberson is known for. Making the starting QB decision all the more curious.

I kept seeing the same formations over and over as the game progressed. Like I said earlier, either our personnel is limited or our playbook.

Still, the coaching staff has my benefit of the doubt. There was more positives than negatives for me from the game.

 

[Stinger92860]

You have no idea, Jim Mora does.

it’s possible that TR is not 100%

 

[metsfan2323]

it’s possible that TR is not 100%

On the replay the television crew mentioned there was no doubt who the winner of the QB competition was even among the players. Everyone was apparently on the same page with the selection, and they mentioned Fagnano did not throw a single INT during camp. I don't think TR is hurt, but I will say I doubt his leg is really 100% and it probably won't be all season. We don't have a Pindell on the sideline, sorry.

 

[Hoophound]

On the replay the television crew mentioned there was no doubt who the winner of the QB competition was even among the players. Everyone was apparently on the same page with the selection, and they mentioned Fagnano did not throw a single INT during camp. I don't think TR is hurt, but I will say I doubt his leg is really 100% and it probably won't be all season. We don't have a Pindell on the sideline, sorry.

I don’t buy that. I’m sure the players were told to be 100% supportive of each other in the media. I’m also sure that everyone may have felt Fagnano was the choice because they knew Roberson wasn’t an option. It’s possibly just coach speak.

 

[DoctorWho85]

Fagnano looked fine. Our receivers were abysmal. Some unacceptable drops, and for most of the night no one was open for him to throw to. He's a serviceable QB who did a good job stepping up into the pocket when pressure came. I will say that he needs to take some mustard off some of his passes.

His long ball left something to be desired, but his accuracy, decision making, quick release and willingness to run, imo, bodes well for the offense.

 

[JohnFSilver]

I have ti see QB against more competition. I was disappointed how undynamic they looked in passing game. It is annoying, UConn can never look good passing the ball. I don’t know why.

1. Fagnano will have a short leash because you can’t corn up from fcs and struggle to be productive. There is a skepticism that a player who is an fcs QB can then move into an fbs job. This is what is driving most people’s quick leash .

2. Roberson, I have no idea if he can play the position or not. Turner? I just didn’t see anything wow his first year.

They just need 150-200 yards a game passing. Is that too much to much to ask?

 

[JohnFSilver]

Some of you guys are acting like we played Alabama. The offense was disappointing and the gap in talent was at QB. Could some of it be familiarity, timing etc. Sure but their guy transferred in too. Ours was just not as effective.

Here would be my question. If Allen was at UConn and Fagnano was at NC State. Does UConn win that game?

I think so. UConn has to get more production out of qb. You can be patient. Tough first game. Not panicked. But I think the team is good enough that if it gets averaged qb production, it is going to have a good season.

 

[JohnFSilver]

We have no idea if our best QB is on the field. Better coaches than Jim Mora had the wrong guy starting.

Tbh. This is true. There is no evidence that Roberson is a better than option than Fagnano. None.

As far as Turner, what did we see out of Turner last year that we missed on Thrusday?

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Tbh. This is true. There is no evidence that Roberson is a better than option than Fagnano. None.

As far as Turner, what did we see out of Turner last year that we missed on Thrusday?

Don't forget McDonald as an option. If the first three really cant get the job done, it is worth seeing what you have with the freshman. Who cares about his redshirt... especially with Welliver coming in next year.

It would suck to go through yet another year where the offense holds the team back.

 

[CL82]

I really prefer a mobile QB, even over a premier passer.

Either would be nice.

 

[DCT]

On the replay the television crew mentioned there was no doubt who the winner of the QB competition was even among the players. Everyone was apparently on the same page with the selection, and they mentioned Fagnano did not throw a single INT during camp. I don't think TR is hurt, but I will say I doubt his leg is really 100% and it probably won't be all season. We don't have a Pindell on the sideline, sorry.

Didn't seem to me that the tv crew did much homework. I doubt much time spent with players pregame so what they got was party line with works for me.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Rhode Island went up and down the field all game against Georgia St.
500 yards of offense, 400 yards passing and 35 points.


No excuse for Fagnano and UConn to not be able to move the ball at will.

 

[huskymedic]

Rhode Island went up and down the field all game against Georgia St. 500 yards of offense, 400 yards passing and 35 points.

Kasim Hill still chugging along - kid could play just couldn’t stay healthy.

 

[Jimdish255]

So I've had a look at four teams with new quarterbacks and how their offenses performed. UConn, NC State, Umass, and Colorado. While no definitive conclusions should be drawn after one game It seems obvious that our production fell significantly below the other three teams.

Again we should wait another week to see how things shake out but it would seem like there's only a few variants that would be in play when assessing or comparing. One would be the quality of the competition. I don't think any of those games involved teams that were far above them including ours. I thought Colorado might lose badly today. Wrooong! Second would be the quality of the offensive line and I will have to say that our QB wasn't exactly running for his life every play at least not the way Casey Cochran had to. Abd his stats were generally pretty decent. Third would be the quality of the wide receivers and not being an expert for me that's pretty hard to judge. Finally coaching preparation and play calling definitely come into play and again not being a coach it's hard to judge. One thing I will say is watching the UMass game if the standard stays the same we'd have a lot of trouble against them. It would be a very close game despite our edge in overall talent So hopefully we're able to iron out whatever inefficiencies we have at QB, or if not we have somebody chomping at the bit who can give us more of an effective dual threat which thise other three guys seem to provide. Should be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Kasim Hill still chugging along - kid could play just couldn’t stay healthy.

I couldn't care less about Hill; he's been playing college ball since 2017.

Fagnano has to move the ball all game long.

 

[freescooter]

Rhode Island went up and down the field all game against Georgia St.
500 yards of offense, 400 yards passing and 35 points.


No excuse for Fagnano and UConn to not be able to move the ball at will.

PS pop