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Fagnano it is

It’s like pro teams never get a play screwed up from what most here are woofing about. It was one freaking play. One player screwed up.

Given that NC State (actually not too impressive) is supposedly the 2nd best team on the schedule, there isn’t much to take away long term quite yet.

I thought Fagnano was ok, not terrible . One of his overthrows wasn’t. I think it was Houston, who is not a receiver, slowed down and the throw was a yard past him. He was pretty good at times finding secondary targets, Obviously the first drive was the best. I agree that more throws to aTE would have worked.
But I think this game was lost on D, more precisely the inability to bottle up the QB. He sustained several possessions with his feet His throws overall weren’t anything special. It was obvious by the 3rd quarter how often he would keep the ball. We never adjusted. Linebacking was mostly invisible. Overall they were quicker or at least more elusive in key positions.

Our kickoffs need to be much deeper.

Overall there really wasn’t that much truly awful. We were definitely competitive. Let’s see how we do with this game out of the way and against teams we generally match better against.

Traffic getting out. Whoever should be in charge of exit traffic needs to consult with Hollywood Bowl. They have the most efficient, orderly system of alternating lanes. Nobody cutting anyone off. It flows.
 
Chin Diesel said:
I said it in the chat and I'll say it here.

Swap the QB's around and UConn wins by 30. Armstrong was smarter, quicker and more athletic than anyone on UConn's defense.
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Sometimes the most obvious thing is the most rational thing and you don't need to twist your logic into a pretzel trying to find deeper meaning. Switch 2 players and the score flips.
 
cohenzone said:
It’s like pro teams never get a play screwed up from what most here are woofing about. It was one freaking play. One player screwed up.

Given that NC State (actually not too impressive) is supposedly the 2nd best team on the schedule, there isn’t much to take away long term quite yet.

I thought Fagnano was ok, not terrible . One of his overthrows wasn’t. I think it was Houston, who is not a receiver, slowed down and the throw was a yard past him. He was pretty good at times finding secondary targets, Obviously the first drive was the best. I agree that more throws to aTE would have worked.
But I think this game was lost on D, more precisely the inability to bottle up the QB. He sustained several possessions with his feet His throws overall weren’t anything special. It was obvious by the 3rd quarter how often he would keep the ball. We never adjusted. Linebacking was mostly invisible. Overall they were quicker or at least more elusive in key positions.

Our kickoffs need to be much deeper.

Overall there really wasn’t that much truly awful. We were definitely competitive. Let’s see how we do with this game out of the way and against teams we generally match better against.

Traffic getting out. Whoever should be in charge of exit traffic needs to consult with Hollywood Bowl. They have the most efficient, orderly system of alternating lanes. Nobody cutting anyone off. It flows.
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Yeah I didn’t think the trick play was that bad either. Things happen. Very next play we had a chance to convert and the wide receiver drops a ball that hits him right in the shoulder. No excuse not to catch that. That was what costed us on that drive more than anything.

Also if there’s no PI on that 4th down that wipes 7 points off the board and we’re down by 3 that last drive instead of 10.

Brilliant coaching job on defense to keep us in that game. Just need better players to make plays.
 
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FlakeyFoont said:
But he needs to be way better than just good, otherwise time to go to the bullpen against Duke.
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Really have to wonder why he did not go to what you call the bullpen in the forth quarter. They kept talking about how the qb competition was so close all preseason. The next two up have wheels and arms. Our boy tonight had opportunities to gain yardage or a first down but looked to simply be a pocket passer.
cohenzone said:
Overall there really wasn’t that much truly awful. We were definitely competitive. Let’s see how we do with this game out of the way and against teams we generally match better against.
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Absolutely not an attack, but are we at the point of as a D1 team fan base accepting mediocrity ??? Why would we not want to be competitive with any team any time?
 
Woof 101 said:
Really have to wonder why he did not go to what you call the bullpen in the forth quarter. They kept talking about how the qb competition was so close all preseason. The next two up have wheels and arms. Our boy tonight had opportunities to gain yardage or a first down but looked to simply be a pocket passer.

Absolutely not an attack, but are we at the point of as a D1 team fan base accepting mediocrity ??? Why would we not want to be competitive with any team any time?
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Can Roberson still run like he did before the injury?
 
Punkbo said:
My biggest problem with the play calling last year was Charlton clearly didn’t trust ZT to throw the ball downfield. It made our offense much easier to defend. To our credit, we still went out and won some games.

I thought this year would be a breakthrough since Charlton had his guy in Fagnano. Unfortunately, Charlton called the game tonight as if he doesn’t trust Fagnano either. Not a good sign.
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Perhaps justifiably, though. Fagnano missed some open guys and didn't see others. He had some weird fluttering passes, not quite ducks, but not particularly useful. Let's see what he can do against Georgia State.
 
IMO, That's why we lost, NCST's Quarterback was better then ours and those 2 penalties hurt, but they were legit penalties.
 
We lost to a better team and were competitive. Progress It sucks but that’s where we are.

We’re better than last year but not top 50 better. Like top 70- 80 better.

It’s why I hated the Rosa thing so much. Cut it to three. One possession game and who knows what can happen late. Instead they’re starting their next drive with a very short field

We have to play next to flawless to beat teams like NC State We didn’t. Onto to GA state
 
After sleeping on it, it was the first game of the season against a solid P5 opponent. UConn's offense had new WRs and QB and they did not look in sync. That is why you try to play a weak team to start the season to work out the bugs. Clearly, improvement, but not where we want to be.
 
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Jimdish255 said:
Sometimes the most obvious thing is the most rational thing and you don't need to twist your logic into a pretzel trying to find deeper meaning. Switch 2 players and the score flips.
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I just don't want to be able to post this several more times this season.
 
superjohn said:
I'm still trying to figure out how we only lost that game by 10 points. We looked like we were playing in quicksand compared to them outside of Rosa and Mitchell.
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So, you're saying there's hope going forward?
 
Buffett10 said:
Can Roberson still run like he did before the injury?
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No one knows. He is one year past an ACL. That used to be the standard minimum for recovery. Then there was getting used to reps and getting confidence in the injured limb.

It wouldn't surprise me if he still keeps another 6-8 weeks for full health and confidence.
 
CL82 said:
Perhaps justifiably, though. Fagnano missed some open guys and didn't see others. He had some weird fluttering passes, not quite ducks, but not particularly useful. Let's see what he can do against Georgia State.
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His best pass was the incomplete on the wheel route to Houston.
 
Skiblets said:
We lost to a better team and were competitive. Progress It sucks but that’s where we are.

We’re better than last year but not top 50 better. Like top 70- 80 better.

It’s why I hated the Rosa thing so much. Cut it to three. One possession game and who knows what can happen late. Instead they’re starting their next drive with a very short field

We have to play next to flawless to beat teams like NC State We didn’t. Onto to GA state
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I get it dude, it was an emotional game. Rosa is sort of the heart of the team. He's an emotional player. He's still maturing as a 19 year old.

In real time, I thought he was just tired from running 71 yards in 4 seconds and fell over. Haven't you stumbled from exhaustion after running so hard?

But you know these celebration type penalties, they're not enforced constantly or consistently. Like, the NC State quarterback could scamper for 8 years and do a first down celebration (even though he did not get a first down), but tumbling into an endzone after a 71 yard run following a big TD by the other team -- PENALTY!

I mean c'mon. It's a game...
 
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Skiblets said:
We lost to a better team and were competitive. Progress It sucks but that’s where we are.

We’re better than last year but not top 50 better. Like top 70- 80 better.

It’s why I hated the Rosa thing so much. Cut it to three. One possession game and who knows what can happen late. Instead they’re starting their next drive with a very short field

We have to play next to flawless to beat teams like NC State We didn’t. Onto to GA state
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Giving NC ST the short field on not smart penalties/unforced errors deflated the crowd and the team. Need to be more disciplined.

Does Charlton not like his TEs? Why not feed Joly?

Also, we need to stop the gadget plays or at least change when we use them.
 
Sonofabeach said:
IMO, That's why we lost, NCST's Quarterback was better then ours and those 2 penalties hurt, but they were legit penalties.
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We’re used to it. Been that way every game for years. Every game, even against D 1 AA teams.
 
Woof 101 said:
Absolutely not an attack, but are we at the point of as a D1 team fan base accepting mediocrity ??? Why would we not want to be competitive with any team any time?
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Woof 101 said:
Also not meant as an attack. but if you don’t think we were competitive yesterday against a team that isn’t Sacred Heart I think the expectation is unrealistic. Last time i looked it was still a game in the 4th quarter and few fans bailed early. We had a least 2 dropped passes. Two of the overthrows were pretty intentional on the sidelines and out of bounds where our receivers had zero separation. JF was decent at finding secondary targets We had one, count em, one clearly screwed up play and it was one kid on the wrong page. Overall NC State was quicker. What was most disappointing last night was the failure to adjust to the QB escape acts and draws. Kept our O off the field. I reserve judgment for a couple of games before deciding the nature of the product. Some opponents are still going to make us look mediocre. Just game 1 of Mora year 2 and we are still escaping the previous trash heap.
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QB play wasn't good. Hope to see some improvement. Hard to see how there was separation between them, QBs, and then that's what we got. The wheel route he had to connect on. Wide open. Yes, early. Indecisive. Run or pass or nothing. Chiose nothing to.many tomes. Hope he improves.

No separation from WR group from the DBs.
 
uchusky32 said:
QB play wasn't good. Hope to see some improvement. Hard to see how there was separation between them, QBs, and then that's what we got. The wheel route he had to connect on. Wide open. Yes, early. Indecisive. Run or pass or nothing. Chiose nothing to.many tomes. Hope he improves.

No separation from WR group from the DBs.
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Wheel route wasn't on the QB, Houston just not being a receiver didn't run through the ball and even alligator armed it. That was on the RB.
 
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Fagnano didn't play a very good game. Many of this throws were too soft or too hard. He didn't try to create anything with his legs other than being a pocket passer.

I wish we saw Roberson for a few series just to see how he handled this kind of situation, but the coaches decided to go with Fagnano all the way.

I hope he learned from this, but the talent level between NC State QB and ours is night and day. Had Armstrong played on UConn and Fagnano on NCST, I am pretty sure we would have won.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
Fagnano didn't play a very good game. Many of this throws were too soft or too hard. He didn't try to create anything with his legs other than being a pocket passer.

I wish we saw Roberson for a few series just to see how he handled this kind of situation, but the coaches decided to go with Fagnano all the way.

I hope he learned from this, but the talent level between NC State QB and ours is night and day. Had Armstrong played on UConn and Fagnano on NCST, I am pretty sure we would have won.
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Apparently Roberson is injured and that was the reason for the odds set of circumstances surrounding the QB announcement.
 
CL82 said:
Apparently Roberson is injured and that was the reason for the odds set of circumstances surrounding the QB announcement.
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I hope that's the reason. I saw that Fagnano got decent protection from our line, and he made very conservative decisions. Sure our WRs weren't always open, but he had opportunities to run and he didn't run. Had he ran, NCST might have to leave more in the box vs. just rushing 3.
 
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