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Fagnano it is

DCUconnfan said:
Charlton didn’t show much progress last year? On a team whose run game was stellar and got to 6 wins? Sure the pass game was limited, but I think this was exactly a result of a coordinator doing his job and knowing what he had in order to limit turnovers. I think the opposite, he hasn’t shown us anywhere near what he has nor what he’s picked up just a year under mora.
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Seems like not much has changed. The Maine boys are not cut out for this level of football! I don’t take pleasure in being right but I take pleasure in proving you wrong.
 
ThabeetDown said:
Seems like not much has changed. The Maine boys are not cut out for this level of football! I don’t take pleasure in being right but I take pleasure in proving you wrong.
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Fagnano looked fine. Our receivers were abysmal. Some unacceptable drops, and for most of the night no one was open for him to throw to. He's a serviceable QB who did a good job stepping up into the pocket when pressure came. I will say that he needs to take some mustard off some of his passes.
 
Mods, please change the title of this thread to reflect actual game film.
 
Give Fagnano one more start and then look at options. His arm strength isn't great. He looks to be a game manager on a team that is run dominate.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
His most telling characteristic was indecision.
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I'm not sure if he wasn't on the same page as the receivers or what. every time he went to a read they were covered and then he couldn't decide to check it down, wait for someone to get open, or take off and run. the timing certainly isn't there yet
 
YearoftheHusky said:
You could not wait to come and post this. That’s a pretty good team with a pretty good defense we played against.
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Offense play calling was one sided again. No downfield threat. The “creative calls” resulted in two near turnovers.

Zero ability to run any RPO/play action. It’s just not a good OC/QB combo. They’re not fit for this level and that’s ok to accept that.
 
YearoftheHusky said:
You could not wait to come and post this. That’s a pretty good team with a pretty good defense we played against.
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Here's the problem- If we hope to reverse our gradual decline to middle tier CFB obscurity this is precisely the level of team we need to beat. Admittedly Fagnano's play wasn't the only problem- but it contributed to a pretty week effort.
 
ThabeetDown said:
Offense play calling was one sided again. No downfield threat. The “creative calls” resulted in two near turnovers.

Zero ability to run any RPO/play action. It’s just not a good OC/QB combo. They’re not fit for this level and that’s ok to accept that.
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I think Charlton's offense is great. I'm just not sure how good of a playcaller he is. I have a feeling the first 10-15 plays were scripted, and it worked out great.
 
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the overthrows were so frustrating, we had multiple chances for big time opportunity plays, and he just threw the ball over sometimes wide open receivers heads, between that the horrible reffing, and not getting our tight ends involved almost at all, that was incredibly frustrating
 
JMick said:
I think Charlton's offense is great. I'm just not sure how good of a playcaller he is. I have a feeling the first 10-15 plays were scripted, and it worked out great.
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Thats a great point. He’s fantastic on paper. Unable to adjust in-game.
 
ThabeetDown said:
Offense play calling was one sided again. No downfield threat. The “creative calls” resulted in two near turnovers.

Zero ability to run any RPO/play action. It’s just not a good OC/QB combo. They’re not fit for this level and that’s ok to accept that.
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The backfield collision play was embarrassing. If that ball was somehow picked and taken back for a pick six, that would've rivaled the Jets and Mark Sanchez butt fumble play.
 
huskidork said:
the overthrows were so frustrating, we had multiple chances for big time opportunity plays, and he just threw the ball over sometimes wide open receivers heads, between that the horrible reffing, and not getting our tight ends involved almost at all, that was incredibly frustrating
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One throw to a TE? And he was on the ground and covered. My optimism is waning.
 
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UCTitleTown said:
The backfield collision play was embarrassing. If that ball was somehow picked and taken back for a pick six, that would've rivaled the Jets and Mark Sanchez butt fumble play.
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it was something you see by bad high school football teams. shouldn't happen at the college level, especially not in the first game when you had all summer to practice it.
 
JMick said:
it was something you see by bad high school football teams. shouldn't happen at the college level, especially not in the first game when you had all summer to practice it.
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Edwards blew that play up. Why run that with your fourth string RB in the game?
 
JMick said:
it was something you see by bad high school football teams. shouldn't happen at the college level, especially not in the first game when you had all summer to practice it.
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Yeah, it didn't seem like they practiced it. You don't pull that rabbit out of a hat like that in game #1. I don't recall ever seeing a play like that before.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
Edwards blew that play up. Why run that with your fourth string RB in the game?
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it was probably installed with him in mind. you don't run that with guys who haven't practiced it.
 
There was zero difference in what we saw with Zion last year and Zion got us to 6 wins. Charlton wanted his boy and its going to torpedo the season. I’d rather have Zion than JF cuz at least we know our floor with him.

JF numbers at Maine were mediocre. If they were mediocre at the non-FCS level I can convince myself. But unless you’re crushing it at the FCS level what makes you think you can play at the level we want to aspire to and thus play at?

Legit nepotism with Charlton. NC State had the same situation but with a P5 caliber QB not a scrub from Maine. Maine!
 
ThabeetDown said:
There was zero difference in what we saw with Zion last year and Zion got us to 6 wins. Charlton wanted his boy and its going to torpedo the season. I’d rather have Zion than JF cuz at least we know our floor with him.

JF numbers at Maine were mediocre. If they were mediocre at the non-FCS level I can convince myself. But unless you’re crushing it at the FCS level what makes you think you can play at the level we want to aspire to and thus play at?

Legit nepotism with Charlton. NC State had the same situation but with a P5 caliber QB not a scrub from Maine. Maine!
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Fagnano didn't look any worse than ZT. ZT was awful last year and didn't get better as the year went on.
 
JMick said:
it was probably installed with him in mind. you don't run that with guys who haven't practiced it.
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Well, crikey. I'd hate to see how bad that play would have looked if they ran with players who hadn't practiced it????
 
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