Ernest Jones resigns

[Chin Diesel]

Lets bring Allah to the huddle and then see who is tolerant and PC.

You couldn't field a competitive team by openly admitted that you are promoting Islam in the huddle.

I don't think you could field a competitive team by solely recruiting aethiests and agnostics.

Couldn't do it with Buddhists, Wiccans or Jews.

The only category of religious beliefs and recruiting pool size is Christianity.

Not saying you should do it at a public university, but if you were to do it, that's the only combination that could be sustained.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

"rdebating eligion bit"?

Like it's a routine and not something genuine? That's a bit disrespectful don't you think? No, of course you don't, you don't respect people of faith so it's okay to say that.

Jones told you what Diaco is going to do. You can either believe him or not, but he had no reason to lie. A man that grounded in his faith doesn't lie about that, and doesn't get confused about the intentions of those who share his beliefs and gave him a specific assignment that is in some way related to faith.

You two are having a debate just for the sake of debating lol Classic

 

[uconnbill]

This thread should go into the cesspool. Maybe someday guys like you and a few others will learn the difference between political correctness and just plain correctness. SH was correct, not politically correct. That said, he seems like a nice guy, and if his resignation is somehow related to how strongly the family feels about religion , he is doing what he needs to do and if has nothing to do with religion, I hope it is not an insurmountable issue c

Maybe you should go back there since you post mostly over there.

This is about a coach who said something that got a lot of publicity in the state and of course none of us are privy to what was said behind closed doors by Susan Herbst. I am guessing like the rest of us he left because he decided he could not put his beliefs off for any job.
I wish him well wherever he ends up

 

[huskysupporter]

"rah rah religion bit"?

Like it's a routine and not something genuine? That's a bit disrespectful don't you think? No, of course you don't, you don't respect people of faith so it's okay to say that.

Where did I say I don't respect people of faith? I take issue with some aspects of religion, but I think that religion is a good thing, for the most part.

 

[Excalibur]

Where did I say I don't respect people of faith? I take issue with some aspects of religion, but I think that religion is a good thing, for the most part.

Let's be fair here -- your reference was pretty dismissive.

 

[huskysupporter]

Let's be fair here -- your reference was pretty dismissive.

My apologies if it cam off that way, definitely not my intention. And I sincerely apologize to anyone that may have taken offense. I strongly dislike when both people of faith and without faith are dismissive of others views.

 

[Huskygamble19]

Of course it is almost mandatory for someone to be skeptical about this because how many times have stories come out only to be refuted later i n time. It adds to the normal skepticism one perceiving. I, for now will take it at its face value, believing that it is indeed, personally related.

 

[BlueMAB]

My apologies if it cam off that way, definitely not my intention. And I sincerely apologize to anyone that may have taken offense. I strongly dislike when both people of faith and without faith are dismissive of others views.

It did come off that way, but thank you for clarifying and I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Unfortunate for the program and for him. I personally did not agree with the sentiment of what he said, but would still welcome him as part of the program. I doubt his hand was forced by Diaco, WM, or Susan as that would've occurred weeks ago if so. My guess is he just didn't feel like this was the right fit for him and his family. Perhaps this really has nothing to do with his comments, who knows. I can say, having sat next to him at the Louisville bball game, you could see on his face he was not happy in his environment. Barely interacted with anyone, even his players sitting on the other side of him, was very sullen and quiet, completely disengaged from the game. You could read it on his face that something was amiss and he felt uncomfortable.

Hopefully, this is merely a case of someone not finding the right fit in a new position and making a life change for the best interest of him and his family, and not the case of administrators pushing him out because of some controversial comments. Nonetheless, best wishes to him and his family in taking their next step.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Not really. That is how he I see it as well.

No, they told him he cannot espouse and force feed that view on others, namely students at the state university, as that is a blatant violation of the Establishment Clause as UConn is a public government-run institution. He crossed the line when he said, "We're going to make sure [players] understand that should be in the center of our huddle, that that's something that is important." If he said something to the effect of, " is someone who is important to me in my everyday life and guides the decisions I make in my life as a father, husband, and coach," he'd have been fine and any uproar would be unwarranted. When he, as a government employee and agent of the state of Connecticut, dictated how he would be espousing a certain religious view on others at the university, he crossed the line.

Kevin Ollie is a devout Christian, has expressed how he feels with respect to his faith, and has never once come close to going over that line. Whether they allow that to occur at schools in the south by looking the other way is not relevant. In this country, that's against the law.

 

[06029]

You couldn't field a competitive team by openly admitted that you are promoting Islam in the huddle.

I don't think you could field a competitive team by solely recruiting aethiests and agnostics.

Couldn't do it with Buddhists, Wiccans or Jews.

The only category of religious beliefs and recruiting pool size is Christianity.

Not saying you should do it at a public university, but if you were to do it, that's the only combination that could be sustained.

I think you do it with athletes and you don't even care what their religion is. ND does not have 100% Christian athletes. Nor does BC. BYU does not have 100% Mormon. I think Liberty University might be 100% Southern Baptist but that is not a major school.

This whole idea that you need to promote God in the huddle is pretty stupid. My guess is that God, no matter how you define the deity, really doesn't care who wins or who loses in a game. People are way to sensitive about their religion being slighted or offended in so many different ways. I always thought that tolerance of others was part of the core of every religion.

To the coach, good luck. He appears to be a man of strong faith and belief and I am sure that will help him as he moves forward in his life.

 

[SonsOfNutmeg]

All this because of one slow news day in January and a non-story turning into a media storm on UConn Football. This is really too bad, and should have just been handled internally. I really hope that comment did not lead to this, and I wish Coach Jones the best of luck. We lost a passionate, promising coach on this staff.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Lets bring Allah to the huddle and then see who is tolerant and PC.

Ridiculous.

What makes you think Allah isn't already there? You think we don't have muslim players on this roster? We don't have evangelical Christian players in the huddle? We don't have atheists in the huddle? Jews? They get along just fine, and they have been for as long as the sport as been played. Religious tolerance is established among people that live and work together daily.

A border was crossed here and has nothing to do with whatever religious beliefs a person adheres to.

The line crossed, is the difference between religious tolerance, and enforcement of the principle that government shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. You got to know your culture. It's clear that Kevin Ollie does know his culture, and Ernest Jones did not know the culture of the northeast. Bob Diaco does know the culture of the northeast.

I'll tell you what, I wish Coach Jones the best in wherever he goes.

To think that this has nothing to do with the media storm that was created by his comments to Desmond Conner, and that reporter's choice to publish those comments, is foolish. The fact that he consciously chose to say what he did publicly to a reporter, is evidence enough, that he was either inexperienced in, or completely outside of his comfort realm in his chosen profession within the culture he found himself working in. No comment on the reporter's choice of what to do with the words.

Logic would dictate that the latter won out in his decision making regarding where and how he continues in his chosen profession.

Recruiting? We're still going to recruit, and football will be played.

But last thing..........since the way this situation ahs been handled publicly.....regarding the conflict between sociopolitical religious tolerance, and enforcement of the establishment clause......

I will have a difficult choice to be tolerant publicly to people making decisions regarding the actions of my state university, regarding scheduling of fall football games, that interfere with my right to grill non-kosher pork products and eat them in daylight hours.

 

[UCFBfan]

Pushing all the cesspool/religion crap aside, it stinks he left but like others said, he hasn't really been here long enough to be irreplaceable. So my question is, what recruiting territory did he cover? Finding another RB coach isn't a problem, but finding someone who is a RB coach and fills the recruiting void he left might be? Maybe he covered a territory that overlapped with others. I just know that the 2015 class is important to be built by Diaco and Company.

 

[huskysupporter]

Pushing all the cesspool/religion crap aside, it stinks he left but like others said, he hasn't really been here long enough to be irreplaceable. So my question is, what recruiting territory did he cover? Finding another RB coach isn't a problem, but finding someone who is a RB coach and fills the recruiting void he left might be? Maybe he covered a territory that overlapped with others. I just know that the 2015 class is important to be built by Diaco and Company.

There is a post somewhere about territories the coaches covered. Now I only wish I remember where it was! Heres to hoping a replacement can be found in short order.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Ridiculous.

What makes you think Allah isn't already there? You think we don't have muslim players on this roster? We don't have evangelical Christian players in the huddle? We don't have atheists in the huddle? Jews? They get along just fine, and they have been for as long as the sport as been played. Religious tolerance is established among people that live and work together daily.

A border was crossed here and has nothing to do with whatever religious beliefs a person adheres to.

The line crossed, is the difference between religious tolerance, and enforcement of the principle that government shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. You got to know your culture. It's clear that Kevin Ollie does know his culture, and Ernest Jones did not know the culture of the northeast. Bob Diaco does know the culture of the northeast.

I'll tell you what, I wish Coach Jones the best in wherever he goes.

To think that this has nothing to do with the media storm that was created by his comments to Desmond Conner, and that reporter's choice to publish those comments, is foolish. The fact that he consciously chose to say what he did publicly to a reporter, is evidence enough, that he was either inexperienced in, or completely outside of his comfort realm in his chosen profession within the culture he found himself working in. No comment on the reporter's choice of what to do with the words.

Logic would dictate that the latter won out in his decision making regarding where and how he continues in his chosen profession.

Recruiting? We're still going to recruit, and football will be played.

But last thing.....since the way this situation ahs been handled publicly.....regarding the conflict between sociopolitical religious tolerance, and enforcement of the establishment clause.

I will have a difficult choice to be tolerant publicly to people making decisions regarding the actions of my state university, regarding scheduling of fall football games, that interfere with my right to grill non-kosher pork products and eat them in daylight hours.

While I'm not sure there's a large contingent of Jewish or Muslim players on our roster, we largely agree here. There's an enormous difference between respect (I prefer this term over "tolerance") of everyone's religious beliefs and forcing and espousing one's religious beliefs on others. I fully respect and defend Kevin Ollie's and Ernest Jones's religious beliefs and their right to have them, despite them not being my own. I do not defend Ernest Jones's proselytizing publicly in the media and to his team.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

There is a post somewhere about territories the coaches covered. Now I only wish I remember where it was! Heres to hoping a replacement can be found in short order.

I want to say he was in charge of Fairfield County?

 

[noeynox]

Could Care Less If He Said Allah, Moses, Jehovah Or Azura Mazda. YouHired A Coach Directly From A Catholic School. If Expressing Sentiments Like Jones Did WasGoing To Be A Problem It Should Have Been Hashed Out During The Interview Process. Or Warde Just Figured, If You Ain't Breaking Laws Or NCAA Rules Run The PrograM As You See Fit. The Real Issue Here Is The Backlash Over His Comments.

I'll trust Diaco until he gives me reason not to, so if he says it's coincidental I believe him. That said, many are forgetting Jones' full quote. He didn't just say "Jesus in the huddle" was who "HE" is. He said it's who "Diaco" is too.

If you're okay with Jones leaving because he can't separate his spirituality from his profession, you should be asking Diaco to submit his letter of resignation too.

Who has known him longer, who shares the same religious beliefs, and who was hired by whom?

You guys are really being naive here.

 

[huskymedic]

So my question is, what recruiting territory did he cover? Finding another RB coach isn't a problem, but finding someone who is a RB coach and fills the recruiting void he left might be? Maybe he covered a territory that overlapped with others. I just know that the 2015 class is important to be built by Diaco and Company.

I want to say he was in charge of Fairfield County?

It was - plus other areas (Florida and GA)...

NHRJimFuller1:01pm via Twitter for iPhone
Ernest Jones was already opening lines of communication b/t #UConn & Fairfield County HS coaches so that is gap needing to be filled

 

[FDNY99]

It was - plus other areas (Florida and GA)...

NHRJimFuller1:01pm via Twitter for iPhone
Ernest Jones was already opening lines of communication b/t #UConn & Fairfield County HS coaches so that is gap needing to be filled

It will be definitely interesting to see who Diaco hires.....

 

[minidarren]

Can we please correct the thread title. Its Ernest T. Jones. Thank you.

 

[Jerry27]

You understand that "we're going to make sure they understand that should be in the center of our huddle, that that's something that is important" isn't just a statement of his own spirituality, don't you?

You do understand that it can also be understood as a statement from his point of view and not neccessarily meaning that he is going to force feed everyone right!

 

[UConnDan97]

It was - plus other areas (Florida and GA)...

NHRJimFuller1:01pm via Twitter for iPhone
Ernest Jones was already opening lines of communication b/t #UConn & Fairfield County HS coaches so that is gap needing to be filled

If I'm not mistaken, he was also partially responsible for NY. I have to go back to my "war room" notes that I posted when he was brought on board...

 

[CodyJ.]

It was - plus other areas (Florida and GA)...

NHRJimFuller1:01pm via Twitter for iPhone
Ernest Jones was already opening lines of communication b/t #UConn & Fairfield County HS coaches so that is gap needing to be filled

Happy now ;-)

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

You do understand that it can also be understood as a statement from his point of view and not neccessarily meaning that he is going to force feed everyone right!

Um, that's blatantly what he's stating there.

 

[FASTEDDY]

Bottom line is as soon as Ernest said "" he was screwed b/c of all the idiot PC people int his state. the "educated" who want nothing to do with any religion but Christianity in particular.

This would not nearly be made as big a deal over if it was regarding Jews or Muslims. However, since " / Christianity" was referenced, all heck broike loose. Some W. Hartford PC nut who probably wants "Christ" out of Chtistmas as well. If it has to do with Christianity, they want it gone.

Another example of whats wrong with the people of this state.

 

[Waquoit]

Bottom line is as soon as Ernest said "" he was screwed b/c of all the idiot PC people int his state. the "educated" who want nothing to do with any religion but Christianity in particular.

This would not nearly be made as big a deal over if it was regarding Jews or Muslims. However, since " / Christianity" was referenced, all heck broike loose. Some W. Hartford PC nut who probably wants "Christ" out of Chtistmas as well. If it has to do with Christianity, they want it gone.

Another example of whats wrong with the people of this state.

Why do you hate America?

 

[Duncan Idaho]

He recruited Ron Johnson. I wonder how this affects the moral of the coaching staff?

 

[huskysupporter]

Bottom line is as soon as Ernest said "" he was screwed b/c of all the idiot PC people int his state. the "educated" who want nothing to do with any religion but Christianity in particular.

This would not nearly be made as big a deal over if it was regarding Jews or Muslims. However, since " / Christianity" was referenced, all heck broike loose. Some W. Hartford PC nut who probably wants "Christ" out of Chtistmas as well. If it has to do with Christianity, they want it gone.

Another example of whats wrong with the people of this state.

Oh come on.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Bottom line is as soon as Ernest said "" he was screwed b/c of all the idiot PC people int his state. the "educated" who want nothing to do with any religion but Christianity in particular.

This would not nearly be made as big a deal over if it was regarding Jews or Muslims. However, since " / Christianity" was referenced, all heck broike loose. Some W. Hartford PC nut who probably wants "Christ" out of Chtistmas as well. If it has to do with Christianity, they want it gone.

Another example of whats wrong with the people of this state.

Trolling troll is trolling.