Enoch

[Dove]

If I close my eyes and try to remember Enoch I see a mummy walking up and down the court.

He had some moments with a couple of nice put-backs but that's all I remember.

 

[dennismenace]

Not so sure about #1. Enoch does not seem like a Hurley-type player. Hurley says if you don't play defense you won't play. He also does not appreciate a lack of hustle. Enoch was a raw offensive talent with no fire or defensive ability.

Agree. We will never know if he had stayed if he would have responded to Hurley challenge to practice day in and out at Hurley pace. It might be interesting to imagine what might have been if he had been under Hurley from the very beginning at say URI.
Wish him the best.

 

[JimHurley]

Agree. We will never know if he had stayed if he would have responded to Hurley challenge to practice day in and out at Hurley pace. It might be interesting to imagine what might have been if he had been under Hurley from the very beginning at say URI.
Wish him the best.

I just feel like he lacked the will to put in the necessary work to get better. The passion didn’t seem there for him.

 

[businesslawyer]

Not so sure about #1. Enoch does not seem like a Hurley-type player. Hurley says if you don't play defense you won't play. He also does not appreciate a lack of hustle. Enoch was a raw offensive talent with no fire or defensive ability.

I agree. I don't think it's a given Enoch would be starting here. Cobb certainly could have put up those kind of numbers against bad teams, but Hurley won't give him minutes because he can't defend. Cobb and Enoch are similar in a lot of ways. Carlton isn't as athletic but he at least positions himself correctly on D.

 

[Towney007]

Enoch is a tool box. Moves well, never max effort on tough movements, big, long...

But that's about it. He's never come close to putting it together.

 

[businesslawyer]

Enoch is a tool box. Moves well, never max effort on tough movements, big, long...

But that's about it. He's never come close to putting it together.

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. His Tarzan body makes him succeed against crap opponents. He still has to prove he can come up bigger than Jane at a high Division 1 level. Hope he does but not yet convinced we are missing out on anything with him not here.

 

[Waquoit]

It was best for Steve to move on for the redshirt year if nothing else. He was one of the youngest players in the country when he started, iirc. He needed guidance that I don't believe he received. A bad start can be hard to overcome. I can easily still root for the guy.

 

[jibsey]

He's going to have productive games I think that will have many here lamenting his transfer.

 

[mauconnfan]

He's going to have productive games I think that will have many here lamenting his transfer.

If "productive" is occasionally scoring a few then yes. If defense is part of the equation then no lamenting will occur.

 

[UConnRock]

If Enoch stayed :
1) he would be a senior and would be battling Cobb for senior PT as Hurley would be playing Carlton for his consistency and further development. Basically a transition player from Ollie to Hurley.

2) he would have decided to transfer after Ollie was fired.

I suspect that 2 would have been the likely scenario. His lack of development during his redshirt/transfer year tells us all we need to know.

 

[pj]

Enoch is a taller, longer, and more skilled Kwintin Williams.

He's the guy who should be really good, but somehow isn't.

Maybe Hurley would have gotten through to him, but personally I'm fine with some other coach taking on that responsibility.

 

[Stainmaster]

He's going to have productive games I think that will have many here lamenting his transfer.

I think you'd be surprised at how many people haven't carved out enough mental space to lament him.

 

[CL82]

How's the SJU board looking?

(You don't have to answer that)

... or does he?

 

[UConnRock]

Against Michigan St. Hit a 3 pointer 9 seconds into the game and then picked up 2 fouls within the first 1:33 of the game and was on the bench for the rest of the 1st half. Seem familiar?

Picked up #3 47 seconds into the 2nd half

 

[Chief00]

We’ve all watched Yakwe this season for limited minutes so it’s not wrong to guess that Hurley would have some use for Enoch in some capacity. Big men have ups and downs game to game. We used to watch Brimah score 40 and think he’s turning a corner, only to see 2 points and 1 rebound in the next outing. Enoch is getting his first extended pt and his results will probably vary game to game.

Enoch is much more talented than Yakwe.

 

[Scrutineer]

Played 6 minutes, 3 fouls, 1 rebound and 1 for 3 on three's for a total of 3 points. Didn't play down the stretch.

 

[Hi-Low]

Enoch is much more talented than Yakwe.

Not really, but personally I have zero interest in any former UConn players that decided to leave the program.

Enoch could become an AA and really who cares, he's gone....I like that Yakwe is here I always found Enoch to be a frustrating boob.

 

[intlzncster]

Not really, but personally I have zero interest in any former UConn players that decided to leave the program.
Enoch could become an AA and really who cares, he's gone....I like that Yakwe is here I always found Enoch to be a frustrating boob.

Normally frown on ripping former players, but this got a chuckle out of me.

 

[BlueMAB]

Not so sure about #1. Enoch does not seem like a Hurley-type player. Hurley says if you don't play defense you won't play. He also does not appreciate a lack of hustle. Enoch was a raw offensive talent with no fire or defensive ability.

Was.

Firmly believe a lot of the attitude problems we had was a result of leadership. There is enough evidence in the changes we see from the guys who stayed to hypothesize that we’d see a different Enoch in effort and attitude. At both ends of the court

 

[uconnbill]

Enoch is a solid offensive player but his defense is terrible still. He would play a lot but would need protection on the defensive end

 

[Robertelamin]

He isn’t a solid offensive player.

 

[auror]

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

Looks like Tarzan, took his eye off Jane on defense.

He isn’t a solid offensive player.

Never forget he shot 39% on 2s as a Tarzan in his last year at UConn.

 

[mauconnfan]

Enoch is much more talented than Yakwe.

Yakwe looks like a good teammate and talent only means so much if you can't do anything with it and don't want to be here. Would I take Enoch, sure another 5 foul 8-12 minute guy his size wouldn't hurt. But he is who he is still, wasn't all bad coaching just a little of that and a talented kid who doesn't get it. Not hurting us with him not here like many think.

 

[intlzncster]

Yakwe looks like a good teammate and talent only means so much if you can't do anything with it and don't want to be here. Would I take Enoch, sure another 5 foul 8-12 minute guy his size wouldn't hurt. But he is who he is still, wasn't all bad coaching just a little of that and a talented kid who doesn't get it. Not hurting us with him not here like many think.

I'd rather have Yakwe this year, with the open schollie for next year, and allow Carlton to develop more in the post. Best of both worlds.

It's not like we are making a deep run this year (Miracle on Ice 2.0?), so I'm looking to set things up for the future.

 

[JimHurley]

Was.

Firmly believe a lot of the attitude problems we had was a result of leadership. There is enough evidence in the changes we see from the guys who stayed to hypothesize that we’d see a different Enoch in effort and attitude. At both ends of the court

Listen I don’t want to come off as an who trashes guys who transfer but I simply don’t think Enoch was a loss for the program. I did not see passion from him and he didn’t seem like the type willing to put in the work to get better. He looked like he couldn’t care less about being on the court. Hurley loves guys like CV and AG because they want to get better and give 110% every second they’re on the court. I did not see that from Steve. If it works out for him at Louisville, I’ll be glad he found the right situation

 

[RichZ]

It's not like we are making a deep run this year (Miracle on Ice 2.0?)

Is this a reference to the floor in Gampel?

 

[Madmannsucks]

I am not ripping here. My observation is he looked good against lesser opponents. When playing high level opponents he appears to be the same guy that played here. Comparing him to Yakwe is a reach in my opinion. I wish him no ill will, he just never lived up to the hype.

 

[UConnRock]

Enoch came in for 4 minutes or so midway through the 2nd half. L'ville had a 53-46 lead when he entered and he left when it was 53-52 with the last bucket being a layup off a a pick and roll where Enoch lost his man. He has some moves on the offensive end, but is still a tremendous liability on defense. Likely to lose his starting spot.

We will look back at Durham as the one we wish stayed. Has 15 blocks in 69 minutes and is shooting 60% from the field. His minutes will be increasing at ND.

 

[Pudge]

Mack will be a good coach for him

His skills and quickness for his size are extraordinary. His think the game - BB IQ & his focus & natural competitiveness ... remains the issue.

 

[intlzncster]

Is this a reference to the floor in Gampel?

lol it is now!