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I'd have to imagine the staff is portaling for 2 starters. I think there's only 3 players guaranteed starters minutes right now. Sanogo, AJ and Hawkins.
 
McLovin said:
You’re right Hurley probably told them that if they want to see the court next season, it wouldn’t be in a UConn jersey.

I’m pretty sure Hurley is starting to get it. If you want to win and compete as a big time program, you can’t make everyone “feel good”.

Lying to Diggins and Gaff that they can “compete for playing time” while actively recruiting over them with guys in the portal like Newton, isn’t helpful to anyone.

I wasn’t privy to this conversation between Hurley and his players, but being a part of high performing business teams in the past, I know that the best leaders tend to be honest & direct with their team members…
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Do coaches often try to convince players to transfer when they have absolutely no one in hand to replace them?

I am thinking not. This was about 18 hours before Gaffney transferred - pretty clear that no one told him that he was not going to see playing time in a UConn uniform next year.

Just get more skill on the court,” Hurley said. “Having three non-shooters in the game just becomes tough ... I think it’s really important we put guys next to Andre (Jackson) and Jordan (Hawkins), or Corey (Floyd Jr.) or Jalen (Gaffney). We’ve got to make sure it all fits.”
 
A hypothetical 10-man rotation with Newton and Ramey (MPG):

PG: Newton (15), Ramey (25)
SG: Hawkins (20), Newton (15), Floyd (5)
SF: Jackson (25), Hawkins (5), Floyd (5), Karaban (5)
PF: Akok (20), Johnson (10), Karaban (5), Jackson (5)
C: Sanogo (30), Clingan (10)

Again, hypothetical. But we can add and give solid minutes to two high level transfers while still getting the younger guys minutes. And we don't know if any of the freshmen are ready to contribute - Johnson as well.
 
Brochacho said:
A hypothetical 10-man rotation with Newton and Ramey (MPG):

PG: Newton (15), Ramey (25)
SG: Hawkins (20), Newton (15), Floyd (5)
SF: Jackson (25), Hawkins (5), Floyd (5), Karaban (5)
PF: Akok (20), Johnson (10), Karaban (5), Jackson (5)
C: Sanogo (30), Clingan (10)

Again, hypothetical. But we can add and give solid minutes to two high level transfers while still getting the younger guys minutes. And we don't know if any of the freshmen are ready to contribute - Johnson as well.
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I think Hawkins will play more than 25 minutes a game.
 
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navery12 said:
No but they might when they know guys are about to enter the portal who are interested in coming to UConn
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It was rhetorical.

Clearly, no such conversation took place with Gaffney.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
95 in Southern California yesterday. Was great to jump in the pool after work. Of all the things I miss about the Northeast the cold is not one of them.
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In Southern California today. Feels like it is in the mid 50’s, I just bought a $15 12 ounce smoothie, and I am looking at a 45 minute drive to go 12 miles on the PCH in Orange County. There are pros and cons to every place.
 
shizzle787 said:
I think Hawkins will play more than 25 minutes a game.
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I do too but that wasn't the point of my post. I was just showing there's minutes available for quality transfers while still being able to play the freshmen and give sufficient minutes to impact players. Realistically, I don't think Floyd or Clingan see many minutes and we use a 8-man rotation.
 
If we get Newton and Ramey, are we done? We would only have 11 scholarship players but we know 8 for sure would make the rotation:
Ramey
Newton
Hawkins
Jackson
Sanogo

Clingan
Floyd Jr.
Karaban

And one of Akok/Johnson would as well.
 
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Tristan Newton is Kadary Richmond 2.0. He knows how to use his size against defenders. Smart player. Hopefully he shoots it better for us.

Same type of player. Newton plays in-control, and makes the right plays and reads. Average athlete and a decent shooter. With they way Newton plays, its best to use him similar to how Nova used Gillespie: back-downs in the post and be able to hit the 3.

PS: One thing that UCONN needs to focus on in point guard position is explosiveness and blow-by ability. We are lacking that and have been lately. A point guard for an elite team that expects to contends needs to have that burst/speed.
 
superjohn said:
There's a starting job for Ramey.
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Was about to say... we literally having a starting SG spot open. Hawkins and Floyd haven't proven a thing yet. They're talented, but I can't imagine either chasing off a veteran effecient 10-12ppg scorer like Ramey
 
shizzle787 said:
If we get Newton and Ramey, are we done? We would only have 11 scholarship players but we know 8 for sure would make the rotation:
Ramey
Newton
Hawkins
Jackson
Sanogo

Clingan
Floyd Jr.
Karaban

And one of Akok/Johnson would as well.
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Probably bank one scholarship for a possible Castle reclass and then I imagine they get a developmental depth piece who doesn't mind sitting. No clue if it would be another guard or if they go for a SF/PF type of guy though
 
Brochacho said:
A hypothetical 10-man rotation with Newton and Ramey (MPG):

PG: Newton (15), Ramey (25)
SG: Hawkins (20), Newton (15), Floyd (5)
SF: Jackson (25), Hawkins (5), Floyd (5), Karaban (5)
PF: Akok (20), Johnson (10), Karaban (5), Jackson (5)
C: Sanogo (30), Clingan (10)

Again, hypothetical. But we can add and give solid minutes to two high level transfers while still getting the younger guys minutes. And we don't know if any of the freshmen are ready to contribute - Johnson as well.
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I see it more like this

1) Ramey (30) Fig Newton (6) Jackson (4)
2) Fig Newton (24) Hawkins (8) Floyd (4)
3) Hawkins (22) Floyd (12) Jackson (6)
4) Jackson (20) Johnson (8) Karaban / Akok (12)
5) Sanogo (30) Johnson (10)

Breaks down like this
All 5 starters get 30 MPG
Johnson gets 18
Floyd gets 16
Akok or Karaban get/split 12
Developmental year for DC / gets similar emergency minutes Johnson got in BE play last year.
 
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McLovin said:
I see it more like this

1) Ramey (30) Fig Newton (6) Jackson (4)
2) Fig Newton (24) Hawkins (8) Floyd (4)
3) Hawkins (22) Floyd (12) Jackson (6)
4) Jackson (20) Johnson (8) Karaban / Akok (12)
5) Sanogo (30) Johnson (10)

Breaks down like this
All 5 starters get 30 MPG
Johnson gets 18
Floyd gets 16
Akok or Karaban get/split 12
Developmental year for DC / gets similar emergency minutes Johnson got in BE play last year.
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Newton is taller than Ramey, but definitely more of a PG. Ramey would likely guard opposing point guards though. So doesn't really matter where you slot them 1/2.
 
CL82 said:
Hahaha… I love The Boneyard
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I wasn’t gonna post the creepy video I took but people were skeptical of my oddly specific experience.

Then again there was some oddly specific car wash stories so I don’t blame anyone for being skeptical
 
husky429 said:
Was about to say... we literally having a starting SG spot open. Hawkins and Floyd haven't proven a thing yet. They're talented, but I can't imagine either chasing off a veteran effecient 10-12ppg scorer like Ramey
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Are we really trying to bring in a transfer over our own highly recruited projected 1st round NBA talent?

This obsession with the transfer portal on this board is kind of weird. We lost both guards and are very fortunate Newton is available. To me he’s a perfect fit, outside of that we are pretty good with WHAT WE RECRUITED.

I haven’t seen Ramey yet (don’t know his first name to look him up) but no way in hell would I start anyone over Jordan Hawkins. At that point, what’s the purpose of recruiting high level players. Would Stephon Castle be next? We aren’t going to get back to developing NBA guys that way.
 
Fishy said:
Maybe.

I will, however, remain impressed at how far some of you will go to avoid reality.

You guys are creating fictional conversations now. That’s something new.
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Hardly. Pick a random page of the DSM5 and you’re likely to find a mental illness that numerous posters have demonstrated at some point.
 
Fishy said:
Maybe.

I will, however, remain impressed at how far some of you will go to avoid reality.

You guys are creating fictional conversations now. That’s something new.
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It’s impossible to I know “what” was said in the end of the year conversation but we can look at the obvious. I’m assuming you just believe Gaffney didn’t want to play for Hurley anymore? He clearly got the hint the minutes wouldn’t be there for him this year or at least that was the intention, same for Diggins. Neither one of them are walking away from a starting pg spot at UConn. Somehow, someway they got the message. Assuming they would walk away from starter minutes at UConn is “avoiding reality”.
 
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Sphinx said:
If Newton signs, what is our enticement to get a second quality guard in here? Newton played 34 minutes per game for ECU. Who will transfer to UConn to play 6-8 minutes behind him? Doesn't that restrict us to an Antoine Anderson quality player? Where exactly is the willing backup point who can give us better quality minutes that Gaff?
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This is hypothetical, and I have no one in mind, but two things to consider.

1. Maybe Newton played 34 minutes because of a lack of a quality backup, and would be glad to play fewer minutes(like 28-30) so he can get some rest. Cole would have appreciated fewer minutes, but for the lack of quality depth at guard.

2. There may be out there, a grad transfer from a lower level school who starred or was a more than respectable starter, a quality player who could have played elsewhere, and wants the opportunity to play at a top 25 program. Maybe, he has the ability to do it, and will take his chances proving he can perform at a higher level program. If not, he will finally see the ceiling and will live with it, or exceed the doubts of naysayers.

IDK, from the Ivy, Colgate, or from the league Cole played in before UConn. Has no ability to play in Europe, and doesn't care about that.

I don't think this is a fantasy, but may be an option to be discovered, like the concealed diamond.
 
AntG168 said:
It’s impossible to I know “what” was said in the end of the year conversation but we can look at the obvious. I’m assuming you just believe Gaffney didn’t want to play for Hurley anymore? He clearly got the hint the minutes wouldn’t be there for him this year or at least that was the intention, same for Diggins. Neither one of them are walking away from a starting pg spot at UConn. Somehow, someway they got the message. Assuming they would walk away from starter minutes at UConn is “avoiding reality”.
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Correct.

And I doubt Hurley ran anyone off the team (we have a guy on scholarship who is still here despite having no path to PT / playing like 20 total minutes the past 3 years).

But even though we don’t know what was said, there is no doubt that Hurley was honest with the guys about how he planned to fill the minutes at guard next year.

If our coach taking his job seriously, by trying to field the best possible team, makes posters on here uncomfortable… tough for them.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Are we really trying to bring in a transfer over our own highly recruited projected 1st round NBA talent?

This obsession with the transfer portal on this board is kind of weird. We lost both guards and are very fortunate Newton is available. To me he’s a perfect fit, outside of that we are pretty good with WHAT WE RECRUITED.

I haven’t seen Ramey yet (don’t know his first name to look him up) but no way in hell would I start anyone over Jordan Hawkins. At that point, what’s the purpose of recruiting high level players. Would Stephon Castle be next? We aren’t going to get back to developing NBA guys that way.
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We need another guard regardless of what Hawkins does. And the kid hasn't proven a thing yet.
 
Sir Tristen Newton - Defier of gravity. Hope there will be a new thread when news breaks. Or has it.
 
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