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Dom Amore: If Big 12 calls, UConn will have to choose between Big East love and Power Five money.

August_West said:
What’s the difference. You had a 20 year bite of the apple. I’m not a big Pat Forde fan but he nailed it this week. We need to lean into our hoops.
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Agree to disagree. That apple was not there for 20 years. When the Big East broke up and UConn was abandoned by the FB and BB schools the FB program had no chance. They were literally too broke to do anything but put bandaids on bleeding arteries after Diaco flopped. Forde has always been a UConn and Calhoun hater. His is the last viewpoint i would ever agree with in relations to anything to do with UConn.

IF they got a shot in the Big12 it would be the 1st real shot the FB program has gotten. They would be able to recruit against regional peers, RU, SU, Pitt, and BC once again. They don't stand a chance as things stand now.
 
noeynox said:
Agree to disagree. That apple was not there for 20 years. When the Big East broke up and UConn was abandoned by the FB and BB schools the FB program had no chance. They were literally too broke to do anything but put bandaids on bleeding arteries after Diaco flopped. Forde has always been a UConn and Calhoun hater. His is the last viewpoint i would ever agree with in relations to anything to do with UConn.

IF they got a shot in the Big12 it would be the 1st real shot the FB program has gotten. They would be able to recruit against regional peers, RU, SU, Pitt, and BC once again. They don't stand a chance as things stand now.
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We went to a FB conference!
 
August_West said:
We went to a FB conference!
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Come on August. That was a cobbled up POS where everyone was looking to get out from day 1. For whatever reason, Cincinnati and UH were willing to pay for way better coaches than UConn was in FB.
 
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noeynox said:
Come on August. That was a cobbled up POS where everyone was looking to get out from day 1. For whatever reason, Cincinnati and UH were willing to pay for way better coaches than UConn was in FB.
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Those schools you mentioned plus UCF USF Tulane, blah blah blah were football!
 
August_West said:
Those schools you mentioned plus UCF USF Tulane, blah blah blah were football!
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You seem to be forgetting that the Big East urged UConn to upgrade in football and the FB schools bounced and the BB schools said they were done with FB. They left UConn holding the bag.
 
noeynox said:
Come on August. That was a cobbled up POS where everyone was looking to get out from day 1. For whatever reason, Cincinnati and UH were willing to pay for way better coaches than UConn was in FB.
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And now we can play most of them in the New Big 12 too! Don’t forget TCU and BYU!

I hope in Year 2 we add Tulsa and Tulane, good academics! Big markets! Yes!
 
The only way you could sell me on the Big 12 would be if some combination of Cuse, BC, and Pitt (heck, even Temple) were also joining. Otherwise, you are right back to being a geographical outlier in a league comprised of schools you share little in common with.
 
Bongo Fury said:
Yeah, they’d surpass that in 2 games. Football only plays 6 games at home
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I mean we will never be Michigan or Ohio State in Football so we shouldn't try to be Minnesota or Purdue either. BB has spoiled this fanbase. If you're not at the tippity top of the sport you shouldn't try. In its first ever game at The Rent this program pimp smacked Indiana.
 
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noeynox said:
I mean we will never be Michigan or Ohio State in Football so we shouldn't try to be Minnesota or Purdue either. BB has spoiled this fanbase. If you're not at the tippity top of the sport you shouldn't try. In its first ever game at The Rent this program pimp smacked Indiana.
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I remember vividly hearing people say we could never be Georgetown or St John's in basketball. They said that a realistic goal would be more seasons over .500 than sub .500 (all games, not BE), maybe a couple tournament appearances each decade and a stray run to the top half of the BE.
 
noeynox said:
You seem to be forgetting that the Big East urged UConn to upgrade in football and the FB schools bounced and the BB schools said they were done with FB. They left UConn holding the bag.
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I remember all the FB schools that meant a crap getting life rafts for a decade straight. Not all at once. Should’ve seen the writing then. Maybe go check the years.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I remember vividly hearing people say we could never be Georgetown or St John's in basketball. They said that a realistic goal would be more seasons over .500 than sub .500 (all games, not BE), maybe a couple tournament appearances each decade and a stray run to the top half of the BE.
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Before my time, but I remember how giddy the state was during the Dream Season and before that, one of my teachers at school telling the whole class how unbelievable tiny little UConn winning the NIT was. Literally writing down how improbable it was on the chalk board. We got what 7 seasons in the BE as FB member? Maybe less before we got rug pulled and half the fanbase thinks that was enough.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I remember vividly hearing people say we could never be Georgetown or St John's in basketball.
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Lol making that equivocation. I already outlined why that doesn’t wash.
 
August_West said:
I remember all the FB schools that meant a crap getting life rafts for a decade straight. Not all at once. Should’ve seen the writing then.
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So the school must have a had reason for not poleaxing the program then. I am sure it wasn't so we could languish along with UMass as New England independents.
 
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noeynox said:
So the school must have a had reason for not poleaxing the program then. I am sure it wasn't so we could languish along with UMass as New England independents.
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Nope. They tried to set us up for something bigger. We blew it. Some of it due to us, some of it beyond our control. That’s life.
 
August_West said:
Nope. They tried to set us up for something bigger. We blew it. Some of it due to us, some of it beyond our control. That’s life.
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What is something bigger and how did we blow it? They got played time and again by the ACC. The something bigger may or may not be a Big12 invite. Crazy to think that the FB program was give 6 or 7 seasons as BE/BCS participant, had the rug pulled on them, and that is it. The state invested hundreds of millions in upgrading FB for a possible P5 invite but its not the one you want so we should just quit and go home? I'll say again. If that happens they will likely be joined by SU, Pitt, and BC in less time than the time in between our last 2 men's national titles.
 
noeynox said:
What is something bigger and how did we blow it? They got played time and again by the ACC. The something bigger may or may not be a Big12 invite. Crazy to think that the FB program was give 6 or 7 seasons as BE/BCS participant, had the rug pulled on them, and that is it. The state invested hundreds of millions in upgrading FB for a possible P5 invite but it’s not the one you want so we should just quit and go home? I'll say again. If that happens they will likely be joined by SU, Pitt, and BC in less time than the time in between our last 2 men's national titles.
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How does 2002-2013 = 6 or 7 years? And then another 6 in a football league? Yeah we got played by ACC , we also got played by Big12 WAY more recently, or don’t you remember?
 
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August_West said:
Tell me what our football ceiling is, jimmy the Greek.
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Under the right circumstances there is no reason UCONN cannot accomplish what Cincy accomplished last year and Tulane accomplished this year out of the AAC no less. If we were to join the B12 the goal would be the conference title which would put us in the playoffs. Give Jim Mora a QB on Orlovsky's level with B12 recruiting and it could happen.

The transfer portal funnels talent to the P5, join that club and recruiting will take off.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Under the right circumstances there is no reason UCONN cannot accomplish what Cincy accomplished last year out of the AAC no less. If we were to join the B12 the goal would be the conference title which would put us in the playoffs.
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You seem like a big football fan and a big UConn fan. I respect both. But jeez I don’t know much about football but know why cinci could do that. I bet noey does too
 
August_West said:
Thanks for you honesty, yeah you made my case. I’m not torpedoing our basketball program for THAT. :)
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B12 is the premier BB league. We just have to beat Pitt, SU and BC there 1st. The ceiling I thinks is what they were in the Big East 8-4, 9-3.
 
noeynox said:
BB has spoiled this fanbase. If you're not at the tippity top of the sport you shouldn't try.
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While I wholeheartedly agree, I will defend the fanbase in this sense: UConn's situation - because of how late we were to football, and how badly we got screwed in realignment - is very unique. Time may very well prove that the interests of basketball are tethered, but the perception, at least in the short-term, is going to be that one comes at the expense of the other. It sucks, but as you've pointed out, this sort of infighting is what happens when you're pinched financially.
 
noeynox said:
B12 is the premier BB league. We just have to beat Pitt, SU and BC there 1st. The ceiling I thinks is what they were in the Big East 8-4, 9-3.
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You do know that it will be 13 years before your proposal can happen, right? And if that’s not the case the whole system of college athletics was set aflame and it won’t matter where ANY team not in B1G or SEC is. Seriously.
 
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