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Defense/Crocker

Were any of you idiots the guy sitting behind the bench yelling "fire billy crocker" until getting removed by security?
 
What's it take to recognize failure? A historic beat down capping the worst performing D in FBS in 5 games? Don't tell me there aren't enough to put down a 4-3 base D and get some of these 'tweener" players off the field. They can't tackle and they can't cover. Let's at least get some meat on field and get some pressure upfront. I watched at least a dozen blitzes go nowhere because the DBs lack the ability to penetrate unless they come free off the edge. We have 10 yard cushions on wide outs every damn week and get killed on the edge for 8,10, 12 yards every time. We have guys bouncing off tackles and unable to wrap up. The middle behind the LBs is open all the time because the LBs get sucked up to cover a thin 3 front and the DBs are stretched sideline to sideline. It's a frigging complete mess. There is nothing working because Crocker's scheme doesn't fit and won't fit for years. Scrap this disaster. Anything we try can't be worse.
 
bigAbruns said:
My bet....lashlee was Benedict's idea.....Crocker was edsalls....Benedict looks good....edsall looks the fool hence the stubbornness not to change/adjust
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Lashlee is no wizard. Great play calling early on. 3 straight runs by Sherriffs that got diddly followed by a up 4th down.
 
Here is where we see if we have RE2 or the old RE1 stubbornness and refusal to adjust to realities. I still have faith this team can be good if we can get any semblance of a D on the field. Doing the same thing isn't going to cut it.
 
oh my god. the people here who know nothing about football are just ruining it for everyone. You're a bunch of morons.

The players on defense are young and/or suck. We wouldn't even be in a 4-3 against a team like Memphis running 4 and 5 wide.
 
bigAbruns said:
Explain to me how that putrid offense last year is putting up yards then. The scheme sucks and Crocker is a crock. He lacks the ability to make an adjustment....hell Memphis ran the same sets of plays to each side.....as has every damn team this year with not one adjustment to help the players. Good coaches teach the players what they are doing wrong.....Crocker seems to be eating crackers in the press box
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Maybe because the offense has more talented players and fewer true freshman getting playing time?
 
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This is not on Edsall or Crocker. It is on the last staff that didn't recruit well and left us with a bunch of non athletic types in the linebacker and defensive backfield.
This crap show is on Red pants.

I will add that I want our defensive backs to play closer to the line as I am tired of the bubble screen getting 10 yards or more.
 
Stairmaster said:
"The 3-3-5 is what's causing these players to forget how to tackle an opposing player! If we change the scheme, they'll stop getting juked and deked out of their cleats by the simplest of moves!"
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it's just a bunch of sad old men who are afraid they'll die before they see a good uconn football team again.
 
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The only thing I wanted to do or say was sit the starters down on the defense as they seemed to give up on those two series ending the 3rd quarter.
 
uconnbill said:
The only thing I wanted to do or say was sit the starters down on the defense as they seemed to give up on those two series ending the 3rd quarter.
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if we sit anyone else we'll be burning redshirts. that's how bad Diaco's recruiting has been
 
Stairmaster said:
Maybe because the offense has more talented players and fewer true freshman getting playing time?
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I don't know, dude. Fewer true freshman... maybe. But the hardest position to have a freshman play is OLine, and we've got two of them doing it. And we're scoring buckets worth of points despite having the ball for less than half the game.

It's not like we've added much talent on offense from last year to this year. And we've gone from craptastic to pretty strong with mostly the same players and after losing our best 2 linemen and best WR.

So... yeah, coaching matters...
 
JMick said:
oh my god. the people here who know nothing about football are just ruining it for everyone. You're a bunch of morons.

The players on defense are young and/or suck. We wouldn't even be in a 4-3 against a team like Memphis running 4 and 5 wide.
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Its plainly obvious that if you don't get pressure, you've just put those with the least experience in primary positions to fail. Young players get better with in game reps. That's not happening. The scheme isn't working with the personnel.
 
JMick said:
if we sit anyone else we'll be burning redshirts. that's how bad Diaco's recruiting has been
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The lack of effort I saw during that time, just pissssed me off big time. I hated it and saw it last year, but never thought I'd see it this year
 
BlueDogs said:
Its plainly obvious that if you don't get pressure, you've just put those with the least experience in primary positions to fail. Young players get better with in game reps. That's not happening. The scheme isn't working with the personnel.
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oh rly the scheme doesn't fit with Diaco's shty players? what a shocker!
 
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UConnDan97 said:
It's not like we've added much talent on offense from last year to this year. And we've gone from craptastic to pretty strong with mostly the same players and after losing our best 2 linemen and best WR.
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No disrespect, but I don't know where this is coming from. Skanes, Dixon, Donaldson, Mensah, Hopkins, CDG and RVD on the line...the new playmakers added are simply superior to the ones seeing time on D.
 
Stairmaster said:
I don't know where this is coming from. Skanes, Dixon, Donaldson, Mensah, Hopkins, CDG and RVD on the line...the new playmakers added are simply superior to the ones seeing time on D.
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Come on, dude. Knappe and Levy were both in NFL camps, as was Noel Thomas. So there goes your CDG TBD Donaldson. If you want to tell me that Mensah and Hopkins are better than Johnson, fine. But Arkeel is still the class of the team as he was last year, and we have the same QB.

If you are trying to tell me we have much better offensive talent this year, you're simply wrong.

The difference is that Lashlee + Grimes = 1,000x Verducci / Cummings.
 
Wonder if the defense understands that fixing this pathetic situation will require an influx of recruits. New players that aren't them. Don't wanna read or hear about getting bigger, stronger and faster over the off season. Doesn't matter. These guys don't have the talent to play at this level. UConn needs to recruit to get players who do. And, if players take exception to this review, well they are the only ones who can do anything about this. So if it's offensive, then maybe smash the hell out of someone next week, get to the QB once or twice, cover somebody, force a turnover.
 
BlueDogs said:
So, then you adapt, right?
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or you set yourself up to succeed when you have the players that fit your scheme? but let's just hamper the 7 freshman playing on defense so we might win one more game this season
 
UConnDan97 said:
Come on, dude. Knappe and Levy were both in NFL camps, as was Noel Thomas. So there goes your CDG TBD Donaldson. If you want to tell me that Mensah and Hopkins are better than Johnson, fine. But Arkeel is still the class of the team as he was last year, and we have the same QB.

If you are trying to tell me we have much better offensive talent this year, you're simply wrong.

The difference is that Lashlee + Grimes = 1,000x Verducci / Cummings.
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I'm disputing your "pretty much the same players" assertion. Yes NT was leaps and bounds above anyone mentioned, but there's aa big difference one outstanding receiver surrounded by nobody and guys with big-play ability who give the QB multiple options and keep opposing defenses honest.

I don't deny that these coaches are making a world of difference. But it helps a lot that the coaches came in at the same time as talented true frosh enrolled and RS frosh became game-eligible.
 
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Stairmaster said:
I'm disputing your "pretty much the same players" assertion. Yes NT was leaps and bounds above anyone mentioned, but there's aa big difference one outstanding receiver surrounded by nobody and guys with big-play ability who give the QB multiple options and keep opposing defenses honest.

I don't deny that these coaches are making a world of difference. But it helps a lot that the coaches came in at the same time as talented true frosh enrolled and RS frosh became game-eligible.
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if people don't see that the offensive players are more talented than the defensive players then they don't get a say in anything regarding football ever again
 
Look, I'll be the first one to tell you that losing our three best DBs from last year is brutal for us. We're playing converted RBs back there (like McCallister). If Edsall is saying emphatically that the 3-3-5 is really the only thing he can do with this roster because of so few down lineman, I understand.

What I'm not about to believe is that there aren't adjustments to be made within the system that could help. Like when we brought extra pressure, it was a little more successful (not much, but a little). How about the large distance we play off of the receivers on that same damned bubble screen every game?

I'm just going to go to bed with the belief that Edsall is going to have this very same conversation with Crocker behind the scenes this week...
 
UConnDan97 said:
Look, I'll be the first one to tell you that losing our three best DBs from last year is brutal for us. We're playing converted RBs back there (like McCallister). If Edsall is saying emphatically that the 3-3-5 is really the only thing he can do with this roster because of so few down lineman, I understand.

What I'm not about to believe is that there aren't adjustments to be made within the system that could help. Like when we brought extra pressure, it was a little more successful (not much, but a little). How about the large distance we play off of the receivers on that same damned bubble screen every game?

I'm just going to go to bed with the belief that Edsall is going to have this very same conversation with Crocker behind the scenes this week...
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did you miss all the times Wilson and Adams just got straight up beat for TD's?
 
Stairmaster said:
I'm disputing your "pretty much the same players" assertion. Yes NT was leaps and bounds above anyone mentioned, but there's aa big difference one outstanding receiver surrounded by nobody and guys with big-play ability who give the QB multiple options and keep opposing defenses honest.

I don't deny that these coaches are making a world of difference. But it helps a lot that the coaches came in at the same time as talented true frosh enrolled and RS frosh became game-eligible.
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We haven't even had Hergy for the last couple of games, and we continue to score even more points without him. I'm sorry. The difference on offense this year versus last has nothing to do with better talent...
 
bigAbruns said:
Explain to me how that putrid offense last year is putting up yards then. The scheme sucks and Crocker is a crock. He lacks the ability to make an adjustment....hell Memphis ran the same sets of plays to each side.....as has every damn team this year with not one adjustment to help the players. Good coaches teach the players what they are doing wrong.....Crocker seems to be eating crackers in the press box
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More talent on offense than defense
 
UConnDan97 said:
We haven't even had Hergy for the last couple of games, and we continue to score even more points without him. I'm sorry. The difference on offense this year versus last has nothing to do with better talent...
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It's a mix between better talent and better coaching. the defense has worse talent and that's not arguable.
 
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