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Icebear said:
SoCar has no experience in big games. They have yet to have "big" win. They will be good but as of today they are not a threat. In contrast UCONN has numerous players holding two NC rings. They are "BIG" game tested and "Certified."
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I simply don't think you replace Dolson and Hartley with Stokes and Chong and somehow become better than the previous season. However, I do think that if you add the number 1 forward and number center in the nation that you do become a much better team. But getting Tuck back will help a lot.

Can we just skip to February?
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Who would you consider to be threats to UConn? North Carolina and Baylor seem to be on the periphery. Louisville's down. Duke has a completely different team and is very young. Maryland looks short too. South Carolina may be unproven but with their talent on paper I think they have to considered the most dangerous along with Notre Dame.
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I said no one except UCONN.
 
easttexastrash said:
I simply don't think you replace Dolson and Hartley with Stokes and Chong and somehow become better than the previous season. However, I do think that if you add the number 1 forward and number center in the nation that you do become a much better team.

Can we just skip to February?
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MoJeff replaces Hartley, no problem. Chong then picks up MoJetts's load with much better back up than last year. Tuck is back to assist Stewie, Stokes, and KML upfront and presently all are healthy something they were not last year. So that is four across the front for two or three positions. I see much stronger options for Geno and have no problem seeing the team being stronger. Plus you've been wrong before.
 
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Until somebody beats you, you are the champions, but the Gamecocks have both depth and experience this season. We may not beat you in Gampel, but we have a huge fan base and there will be lots of rooster boosters in Tampa next spring.
 
Icebear said:
MoJeff replaces Hartley, no problem. Chong then picks up MoJetts's load with much better back than last year. Tuck is back to assist Stewie, Stokes, and KML upfront and presently all are healthy something they were not last year. I see much stronger options for Geno and have no problem seeing the team being stronger. Plus you've been wrong before.
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I'm assuming you haven't been. (-;

My opinion is that SC will challenge UCONN. I don't expect any UCONN fans to agree with that opinion. I did agree last year that nobody would challenge UCONN, but until I see the team operate without Dolson and Hartley I can't buy into that stance this year.
 
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Icebear said:
MoJeff replaces Hartley, no problem. Chong then picks up MoJetts's load with much better back than last year. Tuck is back to assist Stewie, Stokes, and KML upfront and presently all are healthy something they were not last year. I see much stronger options for Geno and have no problem seeing the team being stronger. Plus you've been wrong before.
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Jefferson is moving to the 2 position instead of playing PG? Her back was hurt last year?
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Until somebody beats you, you are the champions, but the Gamecocks have both depth and experience this season. We may not beat you in Gampel, but we have a huge fan base and there will be lots of rooster boosters in Tampa next spring.
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Experience? At what? Final Four experience? Pretty gutsy to assume you will be in the FF in Tampa.
 
sawxfan23 said:
I think the size of South Carolina could give UConn fits. South Carolina features 4 players 6'4 or taller and I think that Staley is going to try to go big against UConn and start Wilson, White, and Coates together. I think they are going to pound the ball inside against and try to dominate the boards. This is where UConn's lack of height kind of scares me. On defense I think that South Carolina is going to try to pack the paint and take away the inside. If they are successful in making UConn 1 dimensional by forcing them outside then UConn could be in trouble. However, if UConn is able to knock down some jump shots and hold its own rebounding, they can get their fast break working and run South Carolina out of the gym. I honestly think that South Carolina is the ONLY team in the country that can beat UConn and it should be fun to watch when they match-up at Gampel and maybe in the NCAA tournament.
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I give you credit for supporting your team but this is UConn. Not Tenn who you lost to. This is mighty UConn. Who last season beat a very big MD team with KML and Tuck out to injuries and beat them at MD. We have two go to players who can outscore you entire team. We have a defense that will suffocate your team. I will take UConn by 20 and it may not be that close. ND last season was +20 better the USC and UConn beat them by +20. There isn't a team in WCBB that can come close to UConn this season and USC will be hyped but in the end UConn by 20+. USC is a very talented team. A top 2/3 team this season but the margin between UConn and everybody else is over double digits. First Dawn must put together a defense that can keep UConn under 60 pts then she must put an offense together that can score against UConns defense 60 pts. In 2 seasons no team has managed to do that. What makes you think that USC a sweet 16 team last season can???????? It will be a big wake up call for Wilson and Coates.
 
pap49cba said:
Experience? At what? Final Four experience? Pretty gutsy to assume you will be in the FF in Tampa.
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Are most of your fans not assuming that you'll win the national championship?
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Are most of your fans not assuming that you'll win the national championship?
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Perhaps, but our fans have a lot more base their assumptions on than the dreams of some rooster boosters.
 
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Tonyc said:
I give you credit for supporting your team but this is UConn. Not Tenn who you lost to. This is mighty UConn. Who last season beat a very big MD team with KML and Tuck out to injuries and beat them at MD. We have two go to players who can outscore you entire team. We have a defense that will suffocate your team. I will take UConn by 20 and it may not be that close. ND last season was +20 better the USC and UConn beat them by +20. There isn't a team in WCBB that can come close to UConn this season and USC will be hyped but in the end UConn by 20+. USC is a very talented team. A top 2/3 team this season but the margin between UConn and everybody else is over double digits. First Dawn must put together a defense that can keep UConn under 60 pts then she must put an offense together that can score against UConns defense
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Tony what exactly are you talking about? First off I am a UConn fan and graduate so I don't understand why you are referring to me as a South Carolina fan. Secondly, I am quite knowledgeable about the UConn team and College Women's Basketball in general. All I was doing was replying to UConnCat and stating that I thought the ONLY team that had the chance to beat UConn was South Carolina. Not that they would beat UConn at all, just that they HAD THE CHANCE. This does not mean I am a USC fan at all.
 
I'll take Geno over Dawn on the bench any day. I like Dawn and respect her, but I'm not convinced she's an elite coach. A good coach, but great?
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Who would you consider to be threats to UConn? North Carolina and Baylor seem to be on the periphery. Louisville's down. Duke has a completely different team and is very young. Maryland looks short too. South Carolina may be unproven but with their talent on paper I think they have to considered the most dangerous along with Notre Dame.
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But it doesn't mean they are a significant threat. The whole UCONN team can catch the flu. That could be a "threat" too. Just because there are many, manyy teams worse than USC doesn't mean USC is much of a threat. I guess "threat" means different things for each of us.

For me they have to rely too much on Wilson in NCAA's. I've seen are all-time greats struggle one game in NCAA. I think Steiw was an exception - for this year I don't care how close they are - come April I don't think they are any significant threat unless "the UCONN team catches the flu."
 
easttexastrash said:
I simply don't think you replace Dolson and Hartley with Stokes and Chong and somehow become better than the previous season. However, I do think that if you add the number 1 forward and number center in the nation that you do become a much better team. But getting Tuck back will help a lot.

Can we just skip to February?
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So the moment Stewie came on campus Geno said he was the most gifted talented player he ever had. With her playing in summer - and last year we didn't really have the real KML nor Tuck - you don't think that mkes it easier for the others and easier for Steiw and vice-versa? What does the best palyer in the country mean to you? What happens when you give the best palyer in the country 4 upprclassmen of which we have a MUCH better KML and MoJeff among the best pgs. Would you say the same thing if you had Griner and Sims coming back when they were upperclassmen with simailr type of talent UCONN had?

Bottomline is - I'm not sure you are giving Stewie her due respect. She isn't just an "ordianry a/a." And when you give Stewie KML/MoJeff and Tuck - I'm sorry I don't think you are respecting how great this is. If you had something comparable with Griner and Sims imo you'd be singing a different tune. I'm not arguing no one has a chnace. You have to play the game- but would you have classified Lousiville "as a threat?"
 
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easttexastrash said:
I don't think you want to admit how good SC is going to be.
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It really doesn't matter how good SC can be or is. We're talking UConn which is a team in a different stratosphere. Don't even think about it unless UConn has major injuries. Don't forget UConn got better this year too. Last season how many teams were better then SC??? This year those teams lost key players. This year UConn lost key players and got better.
 
Icebear said:
I think you don't understand how good this team is going to be by March.
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Agree 100% Ice... That's why in the other thread discussing whether this team would be better than last year's team - the 3 AA's we have are all a year better, and 1 of those 3 (KML) will hopefully be 100% healthy the entire year. Add in a rejuvenated Chong (who I'm so thrilled is playing so well), a hopefully 100% healthy Tuck, and at least 2 newbies who are going to be just incredible, I think by March, opponents will just shake their heads and say "I never want to play that team again!"
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Until somebody beats you, you are the champions, but the Gamecocks have both depth and experience this season. We may not beat you in Gampel, but we have a huge fan base and there will be lots of rooster boosters in Tampa next spring.
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you'll have virtually no chance or slim chance to beat us in APril unless we are spiked with injuries or theire is a "Lousiville moment." . Your coach has said your team needs scoring. She was quoted to saying that. Which means you are going to rely on Wilson to be your top 2 scorers. Good luck at the final four relying on a frosh. What makes Wilson greater than Dt or Maya who struggled a lot in the ff game? Griner had little impact vs Tina Charles- frosh vs sr. -----Stewart is a machine. IMO you can't fathom how great these number 1 recruits become year over year whne they are special-off-the-charts type of impact players.

Put this in perspective. You are going against arguable the greatest husky ever. The greatest shooting wing in UCONN history (alongwith terrfic passer and solid rebounder) that will benefit playing with a guard - you can read on this board we think is trmendous (she was 2nd best player in h/s) - heck even ESPN put her at 11. Uconn has 5 guards that were high school caliber all-americans. Maybe not CE but you get the point. Tuck WAS BETTER than Stokes before she got hurt. This is among UCONN's msot talented teams ever. Your team hasn't goen through anything yet and probably your 2nd best scorer is going to be Wilson. You like those chances for your team?


You'll have your chances with Wilson other years- just this year - nah.
 
hoophuskee said:
you'll have virtually no chance or slim chance to beat us in APril unless we are spiked with injuries or theire is a "Lousiville moment." . Your coach has said your team needs scoring. She was quoted to saying that. Which means you are going to rely on Wilson to be your top 2 scorers. Good luck at the final four relying on a frosh. What makes Wilson greater than Dt or Maya who struggled a lot in the ff game? Griner had little impact vs Tina Charles- frosh vs sr. -----Stewart is a machine. IMO you can't fathom how great these number 1 recruits become year over year whne they are special-off-the-charts type of impact players.

Put this in perspective. You are going against arguable the greatest husky ever. The greatest shooting wing in UCONN history (alongwith terrfic passer and solid rebounder) that will benefit playing with a guard - you can read on this board we think is trmendous (she was 2nd best player in h/s) - heck even ESPN put her at 11. Uconn has 5 guards that were high school caliber all-americans. Maybe not CE but you get the point. Tuck WAS BETTER than Stokes before she got hurt. This is among UCONN's msot talented teams ever. Your team hasn't goen through anything yet and probably your 2nd best scorer is going to be Wilson. You like those chances for your team?


You'll have your chances with Wilson other years- just this year - nah.
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We won't need to rely on A'ja to be our only scorer - we've got Mitchell, Welch and Coates.
 
I'm not sure why we're using KML as a example of an improved team in the long run. She was certainly healthy at the end of last season and was the best Husky over the entire NCAA tourney run. Tuck I can buy. Jefferson to another level I can buy. But Dolson and Hartley had fabulous senior seasons. Hartley hit 19% of the team's FG's and 28% of the 3-pointers. That's a lot for others to make up. Still, this team doesn't have to be as good as last year's to win.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
We won't need to rely on A'ja to be our only scorer - we've got Mitchell, Welch and Coates.
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I didn't say Wilson would be your only scorer. Never said that. I said your coach said that your team needs help in scoring of which Wilson brings. Thus imo Wilson will be your 2nd leading scorer. Care to make a fun bet-- not for money-- but whatever? That's a huge issue for a frosh going against one of arguably UCONN's greatest teams ever.
 
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cockhrnleghrn said:
We won't need to rely on A'ja to be our only scorer - we've got Mitchell, Welch and Coates.
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And still have not won a "Big" game. Playing at the FF for the first time is a huge experience in itself for those who haven't been there. Tons of distractions and emotions to manage for staff and players. That alone is a huge advantage for UCONN.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
I'm not sure why we're using KML as a example of an improved team in the long run. She was certainly healthy at the end of last season and was the best Husky over the entire NCAA tourney run. Tuck I can buy. Jefferson to another level I can buy. But Dolson and Hartley had fabulous senior seasons. Hartley hit 19% of the team's FG's and 28% of the 3-pointers. That's a lot for others to make up. Still, this team doesn't have to be as good as last year's to win.
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I don't agree regarding Lewis lastyear. I specifically remmeber 2 years ago Muffitt beign interviewed either at end of half in NCAA's or start of 2nd half that she wasn't worried about Stewart becuase they had hanled her in the past. SHe was worried about Lewis. In other words "defense is going to focus on her.) In this past year - Mufffeett postgame spoke of our size. There was a much more concentrated effort on Stewie and Dolson combo than the prior year-- and the prior year Lewis shot 10-21 from S16 to Finals. This year she shot 7-23. It was indiciative of her year when she came back- not the player she was. ANd imo especially not the bestHusky in the tourney this year.
 
Icebear said:
And still have not won a "Big" game. Playing at the FF for the first time is a huge experience in itself for those who haven't been there. Tons of distractions and emotions to manage for staff and players. That alone is a huge advantage for UCONN.
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That's what they don't understand. We've seen it - Stewie was the exception. All the great ones struggle their forsh year when they have a huge role. It's inevitable. For some there is this other thought "the bench" cures those problems. Over a season - yes. In a winner-take-all - those players on the bench are there for a reason. Rotations and flows are established. When you are going against for exmaple the greatest husky of all time -- a "12 minute bench player" "ain't gonna cut it" unless she has been there before.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
We won't need to rely on A'ja to be our only scorer - we've got Mitchell, Welch and Coates.
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Secondly if you havae "Micthell/Coates and Welch" as your socrers - your coach wouldn't have emphasized she did her team's need for scoring. She said it- not me. It's a big reason why I give you--- near no chance - for this year.
 
hoophuskee said:
you'll have virtually no chance or slim chance to beat us in APril unless we are spiked with injuries or theire is a "Lousiville moment." . Your coach has said your team needs scoring. She was quoted to saying that. Which means you are going to rely on Wilson to be your top 2 scorers. Good luck at the final four relying on a frosh.

You'll have your chances with Wilson other years- just this year - nah.
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Might I remind my fellow UConn fans that we rode a freshman's back to the championship two years ago?
 
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