Interesting. I wonder about hockey which both my 11 year old Grandsons play. Its very difficult to do any kind of efficacy study on protection factors. I was an EMT for 30 years and early on was trained to do precordial thumps as part of our CPR protocol for patients . At some point the CPR protocols changed and they removed the thump based on "evidence" that the thump maybe didn't work, delayed later more effective interventions (AED) and possibly was a potential safety risk (cracked ribs/sternum). Then at some point 5 or 6 years later they put the thump back in for witnessed monitored ventricular tachycardia when an AED is not available. While I haven't read the studies I think is highly likely that thumps or hits to the sternum can cause changes in the electrical activity of the heart. Thank goodness there were so many medical staff in the stadium. I am hopeful that he didn't go too long without perfusion
Wasn't it just last week where a player went after his defensive teammate after that player tried to help a player up on the opposing side after a tackle?
Good lord. Do you have any idea the number of hits to the chest that happen in organized football in a year ? Tens of thousands. One guy - we think - collapses as a result and you're worried that 99.999% effectiveness isn't enough ? We don't know jack right now. Michael Irvin got hurt on a routine play where his head and neck got driven into the turf and he left the game. Then, when they were treating it, they found he had a genetic condition that made him more likely to suffer a neck injury. He retired. There's literally nothing to say, right now, that this isn't a similar situation. Or just a complete freak of nature where all conditions lined up perfectly.
Honestly that's my concern. Having to do CPR for 9 minutes -- and with him reportedly not breathing on his own after that -- there's a lot of time to lose oxygen to the brain.
You get a blue check mark when you PAY for a blue check mark. That is all.
Good call on your part. While they have not specifically called it "Commotio Cordis", the description in the press release appears to match the description in the Wicki link that you provided.I’m officially now done with that sport . I think I’m getting squeamish in my old age/ renewed parenthood .
That really disturbed me badly just now . Too many permanent terrible things happen in that sport these days. I’m just not built for it anymore.
I’m thinking this.
Commotio cordis - Wikipedia
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I've been done with the NFL for awhile. Goodell and the owners are all scum.
I agree with this. We obsess about conference realignment and it's all about football but eventually I think the sport will change drastically. The hardest legal hits just aren't fun to watch.I’m officially now done with that sport . I think I’m getting squeamish in my old age/ renewed parenthood .
That really disturbed me badly just now . Too many permanent terrible things happen in that sport these days. I’m just not built for it anymore.
I’m thinking this.
Commotio cordis - Wikipedia
I played football for one year in high school (as a kicker, after switching over from soccer), and I remember exactly two quotes from my football coach:
It is both the case that 1) this particular type of play was routine, not an unreasonable level of violence or especially noteworthy even compared to other sports, and a guy getting severely injured from it was spectacularly unlucky, and 2) football is inherently a violent and dangerous sport that confers an unreasonable level of injury risk overall (to the head, body, and yes on extremely rare occasions, heart).
Totally agree that the play looked to be routine. As a matter of fact Damar hopped up adjusted his helmet and was ready for the next play before he collapsed.
My late husband was always mad at his mom because back in the late 60's and 70's she refused to allow him to play football because it was too dangerous and violent. Guess she was ahead of her time.
Already nearly $4.5 million, Americans are extremely generous.
They won't fix it until they apply rules to offense that they apply to defense. Hands to the face for example, WR, TE and RB stiff arm guys in the face all the time. Likewise, WR (like Higgins), RB and TE can "deliver" a blow, including with the helmet, yet this is almost never called on offensive players. They go low with their heads all the time. Simple reality is you can't tackle people this big, strong and fast if they can do what you cannot. Maybe Rugby has it right. Ditch the helmets and pads, and you'd see the game played differently.
That is a possibility that one of the docs named Gupta said docs last night.
There's no way this game gets replayed.
Quite probably not, but you must already know that you posed that question to somebody who meant no such thing.
No, and nothing he said suggested it was. Rather, that it wasn’t a conspiracy, because CTE is only diagnosed in an autopsy and even then only when they are looking for it. More likely that Pop Warner and youth school football contributes to it than playing in the NFL. From a risk-reward perspective one of those isn’t like the other. If you’re worried about it, don’t play youth football or box at a young age.
