Damar Hamlin in critical condition, cpr needed on the field

[Deepster]

ehhh

Sorry I stole your spot.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

From his marketing rep, so take with a grain of salt but seems to be at least semi-reputable

God I hope that’s real.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

God I hope that’s real.

Appears to be Damar’s Agent

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I would have thought that the shoulder pads would provide sufficient chest protection to absorb the shock of the collision and avoid Commotio Cordis. Is there a good analysis of why current shoulder pads are insufficient?

 

[EnochRoot]

Appears to be Damar’s Agent

An agent would be part of a corporation - and if they take to Twitter, they get a blue checkmark. I know Elon Musk has gone full-on about his latest toy, but it still seems a little off.

 

[bmayuc]

God I hope that’s real.

It appears to be - my wife (Nurse) says ya that's good but the real question is how fast did they get CPR going, how effectively it was done, and how fast did they get the AED on him to restart heart function because the real question outstanding here is whether there was a sufficient flow of oxygen to his brain when he was out. If so, he could be just fine. If not, could be major brain damage in as little as 3-5 minutes without adequate supply. Hoping all the resources at a typical NFL game were deployed speedily enough to avoid that !

 

[EnochRoot]

I would have thought that the shoulder pads would provide sufficient chest protection to absorb the shock of the collision and avoid Commotio Cordis. Is there a good analysis of why current shoulder pads are insufficient?

A friend who posts on SOSH texted a post from a cardiologist about this:

A cardiologist on SOSH just posted this: A blow to the chest can cause sudden, cardiac death. It’s called commotio cordis. Essentially, the trauma causes a brief electrical spike. If it happens during a particular point of the cardiac cycle, it can stop the heart immediately. It is much much more common in young children due to the increased compliance of the chest wall. Most cases that I’ve ever heard of occur with a strike to the sternum, usually a punch or a ball – like in baseball or lacrosse.
It’s extremely rare. Only about 10 to 20 cases a year are reported. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a case in anyone over the age of 20 years of age. Every case I’ve heard of, or attended to, involved baseball. I would think shoulder pads would prevent the anterior chest from this type of injury. Resuscitation was historically, dismal, but that is improved with better recognition. There is some speculation that certain individuals are more predisposed given a possible long QT syndrome. The variables that are necessary for this to occur, include the velocity and timing of the incident. Without going into the specifics of the cardiac electrical cycle and repolarization, the most common underlying dysrhythmias include long QT syndrome, and a condition called Brugada syndrome.

A blow to the chest does transmit electrical activity through the chest wall into the heart. Whenever I’m at the bedside and a patient’s heart stops the quickest way I have to get it restarted is a thump, essentially a punch into the chest of the patient. It is thought that a normal punch to the chest confers, approximately 2-5 J of energy.
This same type of thing happened to Chris Pronger in the NHL a bunch of years ago. Puck in the chest and his heart stopped.

 

[TheChamps990411]

The leading with the crown of the helmet is something they have been trying to get out of the game. Thats what Higgins did there. Incredibly unfortunate but that is the brutality.

Not what happened. Higgens shoulder drove into the middle of his chest. It wasnt the crown of his helmet.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

A friend who posts on SOSH texted a post from a cardiologist about this:

oh, brother...

 

[nelsonmuntz]

A friend who posts on SOSH texted a post from a cardiologist about this:

So the football shoulder pads should have been able to absorb enough force to prevent it from happening. I wonder if they shifted during gameplay and were not on correctly when he was hit. Or maybe this was just really, really bad luck.

Do defensive backs wear different kinds of shoulder pads than other positions?

 

[Mr. French]

Give my city a break. Been nauseous for 2 hours. Prayers up to a great kid.

 

[Ratso]

i was just talking about this when i saw the helmet/helmet usc/tulane no call. brutal

 

[UConnSwag11]

A friend who posts on SOSH texted a post from a cardiologist about this:

Fast forward to 50 seconds if you don’t want to see the incident. He explains what he thinks happened.

 

[Dove]

Sorry I stole your spot.

No need to apologize. I never would have thought of it.

 

[UCTitleTown]

Generally, the media and individuals aren't sharing the video out of respect. I support that.

 

[Dove]

 

[2north]

Reminds me of Eriksen in 2021


When this happened, they suspended play for an hour and half and continued.

Ericksen was awake when he left the field and they restarted the game after getting the news Ericksen was ok. A little different.

 

[tcf15]

 

[Chin Diesel]

Generally, the media and individuals aren't sharing the video out of respect. I support that.

It's been embedded in stories by many legit media websites and tweets.

I'm not a fan of glorifying it but it is newsworthy and valid to show the play.

 

[Edward Sargent]

So the football shoulder pads should have been able to absorb enough force to prevent it from happening. I wonder if they shifted during gameplay and were not on correctly when he was hit. Or maybe this was just really, really bad luck.

Do defensive backs wear different kinds of shoulder pads than other positions?

The fact that there are so few cases leads me to believe that the pads generally are protective enough but I would expect that this will be studied at length.

 

[storrsroars]

The fact that there are so few cases leads me to believe that the pads generally are protective enough but I would expect that this will be studied at length.

No idea if studies have been made specifcally on shoulder pads, but catcher's chest protectors have been looked at due to baseball being a leading cause and were found to be of no real help. So possibly shoulder pads don't help.

 

[divots]

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[traitor71]

The fact that there are so few cases leads me to believe that the pads generally are protective enough but I would expect that this will be studied at length.

There are definitely studies of all sorts related to pads going on. I've heard former Ravens coach Brian Billick on the radio a few times discussing the company he is involved with. I'm not saying it is specific to this issue as a cardiac arrest can be triggered by all sorts of things, but there is a lot of work being done in the field of protective gear right now.

 

[huskyfan224]

i was just talking about this when i saw the helmet/helmet usc/tulane no call. brutal

That was a much worse looking hit than this one too in my opinion. Crazy

 

[HuskyHawk]

The fact that there are so few cases leads me to believe that the pads generally are protective enough but I would expect that this will be studied at length.

No idea if studies have been made specifcally on shoulder pads, but catcher's chest protectors have been looked at due to baseball being a leading cause and were found to be of no real help. So possibly shoulder pads don't help.

People jumping to conclusions that that’s what it was. That same report said it’s unheard of in anyone over 20, and even rarer than the 20 cases a year in people over 15. Going to have to wait, but it’s likely that the shoulder pads are irrelevant since hits like that are pretty ordinary.

Good news his vitals are stable. Now we hope for a full recovery.

 

[UconnU]

People jumping to conclusions that that’s what it was. That same report said it’s unheard of in anyone over 20, and even rarer than the 20 cases a year in people over 15. Going to have to wait, but it’s likely that the shoulder pads are irrelevant since hits like that are pretty ordinary.

Good news his vitals are stable. Now we hope for a full recovery.

We know he went into cardiac arrest following a chest blow. I think it’s safe to assume.

 

[HuskyHawk]

We know he went into cardiac arrest following a chest blow. I think it’s safe to assume.

No, it isn't.

 

[Madmannsucks]

I disagree. It is disrespectful to the player and the teams/coaches to think they can play after this happened.

I disagree with you. They were waiting for some hopeful news.

 

[Madmannsucks]

The hypocrisy of all the pundits is nauseating. How many times have I heard "Wow what a hit".....well there you go. Kind of surprising to me is that this doesn't happen more often.

 

[superjohn]

Great job by the medical professionals. They saved his life on the field, hopefully they did it quickly enough where he didn't lose too much oxygen to his brain. Every second/minute counts.