Creighton Post Game Thread

[August_West]

Bc Jackson’s defender was standing under the basket. Where could Newton go?

Lol

 

[UDann]

People keep bringing up Marquette blow out...anyone notice Jackson played only 23 minutes, shot 5 shots. That's what needs to happen every game. Match him up as much as possible on defensive side ONLY. If hes on the side of offense its essentially 5 on 4 and hurts out shooters/playmakers. Hurley needs to figure this out more and he should never play more than 25 minutes a game unless absolutely necessary. Think about it, if he play close to 30 minutes (28 today) in a 40 minute game thats essentially only 12 minutes of actual HARD defense the other team needs to play.

To be fair lots of people were hot and scoring at will against Marquette. No need for AJ to shoot. Today our shooting was way off. He needed to shoot more. But if he is going to shoot do it with confidence.

 

[JMick]

With 10:18 left, UConn has the ball, down 1 at 44-45, and 3 of the 5 Creighton starters (Scheierman, Nembhard and Kalkbrenner) had barely come off the court and were completely gassed, plus Alexander had been busting his butt the whole game and was in foul trouble. Our whole team was basically fresh and the game was ours to lose. We scored 7 points between that point and Hawkins crazy foot on the line shot with 3 seconds left. I also don't think Creighton picked up a single foul over that period, and I can't think of a big call that we didn't get except maybe Sanogo's charge and Clingan getting pushed on his travel, and both of those were 50/50ish.

That game was UConn's to lose in that spot, and what did we do with it? Pissed away possession after possession with bad shots and a bad lineup on the court. 7 points in 10 minutes against a gassed defense whose best perimeter defender was in foul trouble? I don't like picking on one player, but AJax can't be on the court in that situation. He is too much of an offensive liability. And that is on Hurley

I can't believe UConn just did that, except that Hurley is our coach, so it makes complete sense that UConn lost that way. I bet, with 10:18 left, McDermott was thinking, "I am in big trouble. Except Hurley is on the other bench so I have a shot."

At one point Creighton grew a 6 point lead without hitting a FG. I think we missed shots on 6-7 possessions in a row during that stretch. It was the time to take control and we just didn't.

 

[3rdbass]

Jackson is now a bench player that should come in with the second unit for defense. he is such a liability on offense that people can sag off him and double team our best offensive players. I was a little bewildered why Newton thought it was good to sit at the top of the key with both Jackson and Sanogo out there and not try to get picks and drive to the hoop. Newton was deferring on offense again and that killed us.

 

[August_West]

Blaming any 1 player for today's loss is ridiculous. All Creighton talked about was "make them take the shots WE want them to take". Hurley's response? Crickets. That's why we lost. Don't blame AJ, he doesn't run the offense.

Hurleys response was Adama face up. Which is why we were in game at all.

 

[UConnSwag11]

A couple sequences decided this game. It was really lost with around 9-10 minutes left in the second half. We had a 3-1 break and all Diarra had to do was make the simple pass to Clingan for a dunk. Then we had 3 straight possessions with a bunch of chances and no execution. We should've went up by 5 points there and we remained down by 1.

The other sequence that decided the game was under 7 minutes left Jackson makes a turnover with nobody guarding him trying to force it into Sanogo when Adama was right next to him, Jackson fouls right away on the other end, then Jackson shoots an airball 3. This all happens with Alexander on the bench.

Creighton didn't score a field goal for 7 minutes and their best offensive player was on the bench and they extended the lead to 6.

Karaban makes a huge three to keep us in the game only down 3 and then Jackson bricks a floater and bricks a wide open 3.

We know we're terrible in close games and terrible on the road, these are the sequences where we should be grabbing a hold of the game. When it's a one possession game with a minute or two left, our chances of winning are incredibly low.

I love Jackson as a person and love some of the things he can do on the court but he really hurts this team on offense, when the opponent can back 10 feet off a player the entire game you're playing 4 on 5 basketball on the offensive end and it makes life really difficult for the 4 guys who have scoring ability.

 

[August_West]

To be fair lots of people were hot and scoring at will against Marquette. No need for AJ to shoot. Today our shooting was way off. He needed to shoot more. But if he is going to shoot do it with confidence.

I mean if you want to compare today against marquette( and it’s not a fair comparison game plan wise) but here is the difference Newton and Hawkins sucked.

 

[auror]

A couple sequences decided this game. It was really lost with around 9-10 minutes left in the second half. We had a 3-1 break and all Diarra had to do was make the simple pass to Clingan for a dunk. Then we had 3 straight possessions with a bunch of chances and no execution. We should've went up by 5 points there and we remained down by 1.

100% this. We had a defensive lineup in and forced 3 straight turnovers. We had come back and were wresting the game from them. And then we just didn't do it.

This is the play-by-play, down 1 with 10 min left.

It went steal, miss, oreb, miss, oreb, travel.
Steal, miss.
Illegal screen, miss, oreb, miss, oreb, miss, oreb, miss.

All were either in the paint or open kick-out 3s.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

This thread is longer than the great Marquette win post game thread in 18 minutes. This board really knows how to revel in misery

Not saying right or wrong, but the last couple months it’s seemed almost like a relief to get wins. We played tremendous against Marquette. But we know with this team a stinker can be right around the corner. Beating Marquette by 15 and scoring 87, then coming to Creighton, putting on a poor performance and scoring 53 is what is the bummer.

Of course people have more to say when we lose. When we win it’s high 5s then we wait for @Storrs South to put out the highlights to bask in the win again. Losses are often more telling than wins anyways.

 

[superjohn]

4 points and 7 rebounds for Clingan in 7 minutes of playing time.

 

[Mister P]

I’ve read Hurley lost the game. I’ve read Jackson lost the game. I’ve read Newton lost the game. I’ve read the refs lost us the game.

I think Hawkins lost the game. He should have known that he wears a size 13 sneaker and not a size 11 sneaker. If he had that awareness, we may be talking about a UConn win. /s

 

[husky429]

I'm not bothering to read this thread. I'm sure it's 80% octogenarians that only come out of the woodwork after losses.

In a wonderful irony, the people disliking my post are the octegenarians who only come out after losses. Maybe septegenarians if they know how to work the like button.

It's always funny, because half of these guys don't even know how to reply to comments or quote someone.

 

[3rdbass]

Not saying right or wrong, but the last couple months it’s seemed almost like a relief to get wins. We played tremendous against Marquette. But we know with this team a stinker can be right around the corner. Beating Marquette by 15 and scoring 87, then coming to Creighton, putting on a poor performance and scoring 53 is what is the bummer.

Of course people have more to say when we lose. When we win it’s high 5s then we wait for @Storrs South to put out the highlights to bask in the win again. Losses are often more telling than wins anyways.

No I point out good things in games we win and bad things in game we lose so I know you aren't talking to me but just making sure. LOL! . I'm always consistent. To see what we threw out there on offense today was embarrassing and a travesty and ultimately rests with Hurley. He is so slow to recognize that Newton was deferring on offense to Jackson and that Jackson was off today like the Xavier game.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

I can’t be bothered to look up the exact numbers, but the combo of Xavier, Marquette, Providence, & Creighton has not lost a home Big East game this year. Something like 40-0 now.

It is what it is.

If we execute better in last 10min, we could have been the first to take one of them down at home. Didn’t do it.

 

[Hi-Low]

The worst part is when Ajax touches the ball on offense now even the opposing fans are screaming "SHOOT" "SHOOT".....it was loud and clear on TV so imagine at the arena how it sounds.....it's a problem. I feel for him, can't be fun.

 

[navery12]

Not saying right or wrong, but the last couple months it’s seemed almost like a relief to get wins. We played tremendous against Marquette. But we know with this team a stinker can be right around the corner. Beating Marquette by 15 and scoring 87, then coming to Creighton, putting on a poor performance and scoring 53 is what is the bummer.

Of course people have more to say when we lose. When we win it’s high 5s then we wait for @Storrs South to put out the highlights to bask in the win again. Losses are often more telling than wins anyways.

That's fair, but it's pretty telling when those people only show up after losses. I can respect posters like you who will show up win or lose and express their doubts. But for at least 50% of the posters in this thread they're not even bothering to turn on the game and watch

 

[Uconn77Duke74]

6th in the conference with this talent is simply unnaceptable. This year is now officially a step back. There's still time to make amends but at this point last years team was having a much better year. head to head game tomorrow at this point in the year and last years team wins imo.

 

[rjnardi007]

Newtown can’t have 2 points. Just can’t happen. Need Castle and a transfer. Turn the page.

Need a big time pure point guard
You would think being a point guard Hurley would know this…

 

[nelsonmuntz]

At one point Creighton grew a 6 point lead without hitting a FG. I think we missed shots on 6-7 possessions in a row during that stretch. It was the time to take control and we just didn't.

Creighton was only able to score 9 over that next 10 minute stretch until Kalk's 2 free throws when we had to foul. That team was spent, and Hurley let them off the mat.

For most top tier D1 coaches, the game would be OVER in that situation, and they would cruise to a 10 point win. Hurley burned the clock on himself and then blew it at the end.

 

[PAHusky]

In a wonderful irony, the people disliking my post are the octegenarians who only come out after losses. Maybe septegenarians if they know how to work the like button.

It's always funny, because half of these guys don't even know how to reply to comments or quote someone.

It’s got nothing to do with age. You rolled around multiple threads trashing anyone who questioned aspects of Jackson’s game. No one personally attacked him or didn’t recognize what he can bring to the table, just pointed out that he gets way too long a leash. The flaws were all on display today unfortunately. No need for you to act now like we’re all AARP members because you don’t agree

 

[Rico444]

It’s very simple now. Hurley benches jackson moving forward, or they will exit any post season tournament they are in very early.

So it’s in court Hurley to make the decision.

Hot takes like this are what make the Boneyard such a special place.

 

[alphasigko]

In a wonderful irony, the people disliking my post are the octegenarians who only come out after losses. Maybe septegenarians if they know how to work the like button.

It's always funny, because half of these guys don't even know how to reply to comments or quote someone.

I thought that you said that you were "not bothering with this thread"....

 

[superjohn]

I mean if you want to compare today against marquette( and it’s not a fair comparison game plan wise) but here is the difference Newton and Hawkins sucked.

Matchup dependent. Those guys had a lot of space to operate against Marquette and it was a home game.

Creighton is a really good defensive team and they blanketed Hawkins and Newton on the perimeter and Kalkbrenner took away drives to the basket. This was made easy because Jackson was either with the ball out past the three point line at the top with nobody within 12 feet of him or at the three point line in the corners with nobody within 12 feet of him.

 

[Vuce]

I’ve read Hurley lost the game. I’ve read Jackson lost the game. I’ve read Newton lost the game. I’ve read the refs lost us the game.

I think Hawkins lost the game. He should have known that he wears a size 13 sneaker and not a size 11 sneaker. If he had that awareness, we may be talking about a UConn win. /s

I looked up Hawk’s stats in road games vs the top 4 league teams. In those games vs Marquette, PC, X and Creighton he is a combined 13-44 (29%) from the floor including 6-23 (26%) from 3 and a total of 45 points. For a player of his caliber/NBA first rounder that is atrocious. He has anything close to a “normal” game and we probably win 3 of those 4 at least. He’s our best offensive player and has consistently come up way short in big road games

 

[jayp123669]

To be fair lots of people were hot and scoring at will against Marquette. No need for AJ to shoot. Today our shooting was way off. He needed to shoot more. But if he is going to shoot do it with confidence.

True, I know that level of shooting isnt going to consistently happen. However, isnt there a part of you thinking just maybe having to guard 5 qualified shooters (without AJAX on the floor) is giving people openings to take better shots and thus make more ie "get hot"? I mean, that's what it looked like to me. I was at the game Tuesday. Marquette really had no answers defensively. Especially with Alleyne hitting.

 

[Dean Wormer]

What a fun game to watch. That was a good one

Feels like we did everything right. Won the boards, crushed the offensive boards, got a few starters into foul trouble, won the 50/50 balls, and won the marquee individual matchup. Just missed too many shots that we should have made

Adama has gotten a lot of heat this season, but it’s amazing how he can go toe to toe with the BE DPOY, against a defense that is solely designed to stop him, and still destroy that matchup. He’s a special player even though his FG% wasn’t great

Andre played into Creighton’s hands on offense. 3-11 shooting including 0-4 on threes, including several shots down the stretch that weren’t really close. Not sure what he was thinking on that final play

We’re a couple inches away from being in OT right now. Tough game for everyone not named Sanogo. Overall, I don’t feel horrible. That was a great game. Gotta win out from here to put ourselves in a good position in March, let’s get it!

Brownie participation points are not what this program should be about. Good job good effort, my arse. Dre' is a problem that needs to be sorted out right now. We're playing 4 on 5 on offense when he's out there. Hurley has to figure it out cause this ain't getting it.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

That's fair, but it's pretty telling when those people only show up after losses. I can respect posters like you who will show up win or lose and express their doubts. But for at least 50% of the posters in this thread they're not even bothering to turn on the game and watch

I agree with that. And I even know i’m pretty negative overall, but I think that’s coming from where we were at when we were 14-0. I was fully in the “This team is absolutely unstoppable when we are clicking” camp. Now it’s a shame to see us click like 1 out of every 3 games, or for short periods in said games. We just have too many faults to expect to be back to where we were. A lot of these faults are somewhat fixable, but it doesn’t seem to be happening.

Obviously it’s been beat to death in this thread and for the last number of weeks, but Hurley’s loyalty to Jackson just straight up loses us games. And I love the kid. I love his drive, effort, defense (most of the time) and his passion. But that only gets you so far. When your shooting, boneheaded plays and turnovers are the difference between winning and losing, that’s when there needs to be a change. When he came back early in the year he was an energizer bunny against 2nd units and tired 1st units, and we were killing it. There’s no reason to not try that out again. If not, I foresee a similar ending to this season as the last two.

 

[rjnardi007]

What a fun game to watch. That was a good one

Feels like we did everything right. Won the boards, crushed the offensive boards, got a few starters into foul trouble, won the 50/50 balls, and won the marquee individual matchup. Just missed too many shots that we should have made

Adama has gotten a lot of heat this season, but it’s amazing how he can go toe to toe with the BE DPOY, against a defense that is solely designed to stop him, and still destroy that matchup. He’s a special player even though his FG% wasn’t great

Andre played into Creighton’s hands on offense. 3-11 shooting including 0-4 on threes, including several shots down the stretch that weren’t really close. Not sure what he was thinking on that final play

We’re a couple inches away from being in OT right now. Tough game for everyone not named Sanogo. Overall, I don’t feel horrible. That was a great game. Gotta win out from here to put ourselves in a good position in March, let’s get it!

Question
Do you know anything about college bb?
No it was another poorly coached game
Just another game in the last five min Hurley has no clue against other conference coaches
Has no ability to make adjustments
Nice guy but nice guys finish last
We are one and done in the tournament!!

 

[storrsroars]

Something everyone seems to be missing when they point to a single player:

UConn shot attempts: 65
UConn offensive rebounds: 18
Creighton shot attempts: 48
Creighton offensive rebounds: 8

When you're getting that many 2nd chance opportunities, it's no longer about who's clogging the lane. And still, UConn converted less than 40% of those.

 

[REB1094]

Brownie participation points are not what this program should be about. Good job good effort, my arse. Dre' is a problem that needs to be sorted out right now. We're playing 4 on 5 on offense when he's out there. Hurley has to figure it out cause this ain't getting it.

I enjoyed watching the game as a basketball fan, it was a good game