Cooper Flagg sets official UConn Visit!

[TheHorde]

Thank you for starting a new thread. The other thread is toxic

Not as “toxic” as the Fukishima irradiated water thread lol

 

[BlueMAB]

You are a good poster. This is a perfect example of just being able to take a L and walk away.

By no definition is Louisville a college town. It just isn’t. It’s a small city famous for a few things that has a large, lousy college in it that happens to have a strong basketball tradition.

This (and Upstater's) is a good example of posters seeking to score points instead of having nuanced discussions; and why I post far less frequently than in the past.

Nowhere in this discussion did I use the word "town" to describe Louisville.

My point was, IN MY OPINION, the University of Louisville has a very large/visible presence in Louisville relative to the size of the city.
Compared to Boston College, or Memphis University, it's hard to miss UL driving through Louisville, the same can't be said for BCU or Memphis....IMO. It's a city with, as you said, a large college in it, that is somewhat different than similarly sized cities with colleges in them.

In my experience, it's somewhat unique, and that's why I asked HooperScooper if he'd ever been there. But in no single post did I call it a town.

 

[AdamaNation]

Castle is not our first top 10 ever. Rudy was too no?

And Charlie. And Drummond technically. And deandre. Dham was close. Gilbert too.

 

[Iluvsuebird]

Good grief. We've got one right now most likely.

Duke didn't have a one and done until Corey Maggette. K hated the idea of it. But the sport changed. It isn't the schools choosing one and done guys, it's the players having the ability to leave and choosing to do so.

I do think those players shouldn't make up much of your roster. It's hard to win with that many freshmen and that little continuity. There's no real risk of that at UConn. Cooper Flagg is more than welcome to become a Husky.

Of course he is more than welcome to become a Husky. All due respect, that's not the point. The reality is that we have won as many NCAA titles in the last 25 years (five) as Kansas and Duke combined, without being a program known for 'one and done' players. Our two points are not contradictory.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Of course he is more than welcome to become a Husky. All due respect, that's not the point. The reality is that we have won as many NCAA titles in the last 25 years (five) as Kansas and Duke combined, without being a program known for 'one and done' players. Our two points are not contradictory.

Only two programs are known for "one and done" players. Duke and Kentucky. That's it. Kansas hasn't had many and some, like Grady Dick last year, weren't expected to be when signed. UNC has had more. Scheyer is making a change and it's an attempt to bring Duke back to where they have an occasional "one and done" because he realizes turning over your entire roster every year isn't a recipe for success. You're going to see Duke getting more 4 star kids who will stay. Coaches are realizing you can’t win without experience.

 

[upstater]

This (and Upstater's) is a good example of posters seeking to score points instead of having nuanced discussions; and why I post far less frequently than in the past.

LOL, says the guy who posted, "Good story Bro!!!!"

You might want to try more self-awareness

 

[mauconnfan]

Not crapping on Kansas or Self, but. Only 1 team, other than Kansas, has won a national title, Baylor. As good as B12 is, it has not translated to titles (3 total), in the time of comparison.

Other than UConn's 4 national titles, Louisville (2, 1-vacated), Syracuse (if you count 2003), Villanova(2) have won titles. Four teams with 9 or 8 titles.

You can make the case, UConn's lack of conference success could be because they seem to have played against tougher conference opponents. As evidenced by the national titles.

But again, Kansas and Self's success is nothing to scoff at.

How Self has done it is something to scoff at though and only a slap on the wrist. Screw him he’s underachieved immensely based on his cheating ways and the rosters he’s had year after year. I mean yeah he’s won his league a ton but can’t get it done as much as he should when the dance lights are on.

 

[pj]

Exactly. That writer has some serious bias and hate going on. If im Duke id be very, very concerned with this visit to Uconn especially seeing Hurleys recent record with recruits.

A writer for 247sports has to promote 247sports and their rankings including the archives. It's part of the job, not bias and hate.

 

[superjohn]

You are a good poster. This is a perfect example of just being able to take a L and walk away.

By no definition is Louisville a college town. It just isn’t. It’s a small city famous for a few things that has a large, lousy college in it that happens to have a strong basketball tradition

Louisville isn't a small city.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Louisville isn't a small city.

Love this board.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

I know my take will be discredited, but they also have an astonishing dorm for those guys and there is no place they can go where they will be more revered on campus and in the town. For a HS kid, some of that carries weight. They can make a pretty good pitch, aside from any money.

He didn't show the room where the team specifically goes to cry & heal after underachieving in the NCAA tourney (e.g., after losing a 1 seed - 8 seed game.) They have to have a room for that???

 

[BlueMAB]

LOL, says the guy who posted, "Good story Bro!!!!"

You might want to try more self-awareness

You're worried about me when you couldn't even accurately quote a three-word post?

You said you wouldn't call it a college town. I replied "Cool story bro" because I didn't call it a college town either.

You haven't once addressed my reasoning for my opinion, only my self-awareness and the incorrect assertion that i called it a college town.

So yeah, cool story bro.

 

[HooperScooper]

This (and Upstater's) is a good example of posters seeking to score points instead of having nuanced discussions; and why I post far less frequently than in the past.

Nowhere in this discussion did I use the word "town" to describe Louisville.

My point was, IN MY OPINION, the University of Louisville has a very large/visible presence in Louisville relative to the size of the city.
Compared to Boston College, or Memphis University, it's hard to miss UL driving through Louisville, the same can't be said for BCU or Memphis....IMO. It's a city with, as you said, a large college in it, that is somewhat different than similarly sized cities with colleges in them.

In my experience, it's somewhat unique, and that's why I asked HooperScooper if he'd ever been there. But in no single post did I call it a town.

I guess everyone can have their own opinion (and we seem to have lots of them here about every subject!) but here's my reasoning. Mention the city of Louisville to anyone. What would they say about it? I would think the University of Louisville is not near the top of the list of things it's associated with. Say Ann Arbor and what would someone say about it? First thing would be the University of Michigan. Lawrence, Kansas? University of Kansas. Tuscaloosa? University of Alabama. Chapel Hill? University of North Carolina. That to me is a college town. Those places don't really exist as they are without the university.

Louisville still exists as a medium sized city without the University of Louisville. The school just happens to be in that city because it's a good sized metropolitan area. Just like Vanderbilt is in Nashville but Nashville would still exist as it is without Vanderbilt. Memphis still exists as a medium sized city without the University of Memphis. Louisville and Memphis metro areas are about the same size and I wouldn't say Memphis is a college town either. There are a lot of examples like this.

 

[ElGreco]

When players visit we usually lock them up.

In Hurley and staff we trust!

 

[BlueMAB]

I guess everyone can have their own opinion (and we seem to have lots of them here about every subject!) but here's my reasoning. Mention the city of Louisville to anyone. What would they say about it? I would think the University of Louisville is not near the top of the list of things it's associated with. Say Ann Arbor and what would someone say about it? First thing would be the University of Michigan. Lawrence, Kansas? University of Kansas. Tuscaloosa? University of Alabama. Chapel Hill? University of North Carolina. That to me is a college town. Those places don't really exist as they are without the university.

Louisville still exists as a medium sized city without the University of Louisville. The school just happens to be in that city because it's a good sized metropolitan area. Just like Vanderbilt is in Nashville but Nashville would still exist as it is without Vanderbilt. Memphis still exists as a medium sized city without the University of Memphis. Louisville and Memphis metro areas are about the same size and I wouldn't say Memphis is a college town either. There are a lot of examples like this.

I agree with that and appreciate the explanation. I never said you were wrong. For the 3rd or 4th time, I'm not saying it's a college town. I just said it struck me as unique, because considering how relatively large it is, Louisville still has a very clear presence. In my travels, this is somewhat unique. I wouldn't (and didn't) say Memphis is a college town either. That's my point, it's similarly sized, but it's got a very different feel than Louisville because the school doesn't seem to have much of a presence.

 

[superjohn]

I guess everyone can have their own opinion (and we seem to have lots of them here about every subject!) but here's my reasoning. Mention the city of Louisville to anyone. What would they say about it? I would think the University of Louisville is not near the top of the list of things it's associated with. Say Ann Arbor and what would someone say about it? First thing would be the University of Michigan. Lawrence, Kansas? University of Kansas. Tuscaloosa? University of Alabama. Chapel Hill? University of North Carolina. That to me is a college town. Those places don't really exist as they are without the university.

Louisville still exists as a medium sized city without the University of Louisville. The school just happens to be in that city because it's a good sized metropolitan area. Just like Vanderbilt is in Nashville but Nashville would still exist as it is without Vanderbilt. Memphis still exists as a medium sized city without the University of Memphis. Louisville and Memphis metro areas are about the same size and I wouldn't say Memphis is a college town either. There are a lot of examples like this.

I don't think I agree with that. I think when many people hear Louisville they associate it with the school, Louisville basketball has always been a thing. What else are they really known for? The Louisville slugger? Bourbon and the Kentucky Derby are obviously major things but I'm not sure most associate them with Louisville. Muhammad Ali is from there but most people probably don't know that. Most people probably don't know it's population is around the same as Boston, Detroit, Las Vegas, Milwaukee etc. and it's population is larger than Atlanta, Baltimore, Kansas City, St. Louis, New Orleans etc.

 

[Sky ball]

Love this board.

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[Northbound]

I don't think I agree with that. I think when many people hear Louisville they associate it with the school, Louisville basketball has always been a thing. What else are they really known for? The Louisville slugger? Bourbon and the Kentucky Derby are obviously major things but I'm not sure most associate them with Louisville. Muhammad Ali is from there but most people probably don't know that. Most people probably don't know it's population is around the same as Boston, Detroit, Las Vegas, Milwaukee etc. and it's population is larger than Atlanta, Baltimore, Kansas City, St. Louis, New Orleans etc.

Kentucky Derby and Bourbon before U of L

 

[auror]

I don't think I agree with that. I think when many people hear Louisville they associate it with the school, Louisville basketball has always been a thing. What else are they really known for? The Louisville slugger? Bourbon and the Kentucky Derby are obviously major things but I'm not sure most associate them with Louisville. Muhammad Ali is from there but most people probably don't know that. Most people probably don't know it's population is around the same as Boston, Detroit, Las Vegas, Milwaukee etc. and it's population is larger than Atlanta, Baltimore, Kansas City, St. Louis, New Orleans etc.

Non-sports fans will not think of it as a college town/city. Here's a good illustration that essentially backs up the way others are treating it in their mind:

If you go to TripAdvisor and find "Things to Do in Louisville" there's a whole page of attractions and places without the college listed at all. If you go to Ann Arbor on the same website, the #1 attraction is the college and the #2 is the football stadium.

 

[BlueMAB]

I'm just glad that Louisville isn't getting an official visit.

 

[HooperScooper]

Most people probably don't know it's population is around the same as Boston, Detroit, Las Vegas, Milwaukee etc. and it's population is larger than Atlanta, Baltimore, Kansas City, St. Louis, New Orleans etc.

That is all true, but Louisville's metro population is much smaller than most of those places. I think Milwaukee and New Orleans are about the same size. And the metro size is usually more of an indicator of the city's influence on the country and the world. You can't tell me that Louisville has as much going for it as Boston and Atlanta, which are both top 10 media markets in the country. Louisville has bourbon and horse racing. I'll give them that.

Plus another thing to think about with a city's population as compared to its metro area population is the land area of the city. Boston and Louisville population might be around the same size but Boston's area is 90 square miles and Louisville's is 341. And Boston's metro population is 4 times Louisville's. So your point is moot.

And most of this has nothing to do with the original subject. So it's probably time to drop the discussion. So about that Flagg visit....

 

[superjohn]

Non-sports fans will not think of it as a college town/city. Here's a good illustration that essentially backs up the way others are treating it in their mind:

If you go to TripAdvisor and find "Things to Do in Louisville" there's a whole page of attractions and places without the college listed at all. If you go to Ann Arbor on the same website, the #1 attraction is the college and the #2 is the football stadium.

Well yes, one is a small city that is based financially and socially around the University with the University as the largest employer one is a large city with the University in it. It's why one is considered a college town and the other isn't. There's way more to do in Louisville than Ann Arbor but I think a lot of people know Louisville because of the school/basketball.

 

[Storrs South]

Louisville is one of the worst cities I have ever visited. Up there with Des Moines and Reno.

Anyways back to the topic at hand...

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Louisville is one of the worst cities I have ever visited. Up there with Des Moines and Reno.

Anyways back to the topic at hand...

Ah, you need to travel more. There are much, much worse cities than Louisville. (I'm with you on Reno though.)