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ConnHuskBask said:
Re: @noeynox post on platinum tweets regarding adding 3 teams..

There's only 3 current programs that fit a P5 profile and that's UConn, BYU, and Cincinnati.

Maybe that's a network and league compromise?

Edit: nevermind. Just read the string of tweets and the guy is implying Baylor would be kicked out. Highly doubt that.
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Yeah I'm not sure that's a premium/platinum tweet. 100% pure speculation (I know a lot of this forum is exactly that.)
 
There are rumors that FedEx is telling the B12 they would sponsor B12 championship for 20 years and pay Memphis' first two years of b12 payout if Memphis gets in. Seriously, if it is a spot between us and Memphis, CT better be doing everything as a state to match FedEx's offer.

I can't believe any private company would go to this length to help out a third rated community college. What would FedEx shareholders say about this? Is this legal? This is basically bribery.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
There are rumors that FedEx is telling the B12 they would sponsor B12 championship for 20 years and pay Memphis' first two years of b12 payout if Memphis gets in. Seriously, if it is a spot between us and Memphis, CT better be doing everything as a state to match FedEx's offer.

I can't believe any private company would go to this length to help out a third rated community college. What would FedEx shareholders say about this? Is this legal? This is basically bribery.
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Yeah, I don't think you're going to see FedEx just cutting checks to UMemphis. Sponsoring the championship game is one thing, but there are plenty potential sponsors for a Big 12 title game.
 
CallMeBruce said:
Yeah, I don't think you're going to see FedEx just cutting checks to UMemphis. Sponsoring the championship game is one thing, but there are plenty potential sponsors for a Big 12 title game.
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Exactly. FedEx is acting like they'd be doing the Big 12 a favor or something. A hundred companies would want to sponsor that game. And my money is on a Texas-based company winning out in the bidding.

And not only that, what good is a 20 year sponsorship deal when OU and Texas are probably planning on leaving in 8 years?

The 2 year payout to Memphis seems....not realistic. Either way, I find it hard to believe saying "hey, we're worthless, we know we're worthless, but we'll come for free for 2 years" is what's going to get yourself into a P5 conference.

But what do I know.
 
If Memphis gets in the Big 12 look for each Big 12 president to have 100 deposits over the next two years equaling $9999 per deposit.
 
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The state of eastern football...the Preseason Coaches Poll was released...

Penn State, Rutgers, Syracuse, BC, Maryland...all received not one vote...

There are 51 teams with votes...

Northern Illinois, South Florida, Toledo, Marshall, Duke, Appalachian State, Pitt, Western Kentucky, San Diego State, and Navy - among others - garnered 81 votes.

WVU also did not receive a vote.
 
CardiffGiant said:
That latest Chip Brown article seems to put Memphis in the lead for the 4th spot by buying their way in. It is just plain disturbing. Beginning to think this is going to be the nutkick to end all nutkicks.
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Yeah, Memphis will buy their way in, then immediately proceed to be more irrelevant than Kansas football in that conference for the foreseeable future.
 
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SAMCRO said:
It amazes me how dysfunctional the B12 leadership is, and how effed up this entire process is. Really amazes me. The B1G, SEC, P12, and even the ACC, while there may have been a couple rumblings/leaks about expansion, they all handled their business behind closed doors for the most part, and then it was communicated it came with appearances of unified conference leadership (any disagreements or dissent remained behind closed doors). The B12 is an absolute horror show. It was with the WVU and TCU adds to a lesser degree, it was with the 4 defections which led to those adds, and right when you thought they can't get any lower... that they hit rock bottom... they pulled out jack hammers/shovels and started to dig.

Don't get me wrong, I pray that we get an invite because we are so friggin desperate, but the way this whole thing has been handled by these so called leaders is frightening.
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They've gotten pretty tight lipped lately...
 
amory said:
Exactly. FedEx is acting like they'd be doing the Big 12 a favor or something. A hundred companies would want to sponsor that game. . . .

The 2 year payout to Memphis seems....not realistic.
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This x 100. Promises of FedEx $$$ are fool's gold.

They already ran this con once with the BE/AAC. FedEx's CEO loudly threw out $10M a year as the amount FedEx was potentially willing to contribute to a BCS conference that took Memphis.

FedEx never quite got around to putting that in writing though. And as soon as the Tigers actually got into the Big East, the company quickly backed away. The week Memphis was added, FedEx said that it had no actual signed contracts with the league and that was pretty much that.

It should not be hard for the B12 to figure out what a waste of everyone's time FedEx's empty preening is.
 
billybud said:
The state of eastern football...the Preseason Coaches Poll was released...

Penn State, Rutgers, Syracuse, BC, Maryland...all received not one vote...

There are 51 teams with votes...

Northern Illinois, South Florida, Toledo, Marshall, Duke, Appalachian State, Pitt, Western Kentucky, San Diego State, and Navy - among others - garnered 81 votes.

WVU also did not receive a vote.
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Weird post...
billybud said:
The state of eastern football...the Preseason Coaches Poll was released...

Penn State, Rutgers, Syracuse, BC, Maryland...all received not one vote...

There are 51 teams with votes...

Northern Illinois, South Florida, Toledo, Marshall, Duke, Appalachian State, Pitt, Western Kentucky, San Diego State, and Navy - among others - garnered 81 votes.

WVU also did not receive a vote.
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This is a weird post. You note that WVU didn't get any votes to make your East Coast point, while pointing out that Marshall did. You are also not counting UNC as "east coast" nor a whole host of other schools (Miami, USF, UF, yes FSU) which are clearly east coast. You also don't include Navy for some reason. I can go on.
 
I only incidentally listed WVU...after "eastern football" ....I did not say east coast.

Maybe I should have annotated upper east....
 
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billybud said:
I only incidentally listed WVU...after "eastern football" ....I did not say east coast.

Maybe I should have annotated upper east....
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Then are you going to include OSU, Pitt, Louisville, App State? I just don't understand what point you are trying to make.
 
billybud said:
The state of eastern football...the Preseason Coaches Poll was released...

Penn State, Rutgers, Syracuse, BC, Maryland...all received not one vote...

There are 51 teams with votes...

Northern Illinois, South Florida, Toledo, Marshall, Duke, Appalachian State, Pitt, Western Kentucky, San Diego State, and Navy - among others - garnered 81 votes.

WVU also did not receive a vote.
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WestHartHusk said:
Then are you going to include OSU, Pitt, Louisville, App State? I just don't understand what point you are trying to make.
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I took this one of two ways. Either Billy was saying NE football sucks, or there was an opening for a football power in the NE.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
There are rumors that FedEx is telling the B12 they would sponsor B12 championship for 20 years and pay Memphis' first two years of b12 payout if Memphis gets in. Seriously, if it is a spot between us and Memphis, CT better be doing everything as a state to match FedEx's offer.

I can't believe any private company would go to this length to help out a third rated community college. What would FedEx shareholders say about this? Is this legal? This is basically bribery.
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Meh.....Come on....this is three months old, maybe more....here's an excerpt from an article from May on this FedEx crap....

Khator, however, isn't the only Big 12 expansion president that Gee has been in contact with.

On Feb. 24, Memphis president David Rudd penned a letter to Gee and copied Oklahoma president David Boren and Baylor president Ken Starr, the other two members of the composition committee, as well as former Big 12 board chairman and Kansas State president Kirk Schulz. In the letter, Rudd pledged that Memphis will make a $500 million investment in academic and athletic infrastructure over the next five years. Rudd also enclosed a letter from FedEx chairman Fred Smith, who stated that the delivery services giant headquartered in Memphis will be behind the school's Big 12 campaign.

"We strongly support the university's efforts to become a member of an expanded Big 12 athletic conference," Smith wrote to Rudd in a letter dated Feb. 23. "In support of [Memphis'] Big 12 aspirations, we have researched college conference sponsorships and are prepared to become a major Big 12 sponsor of football and basketball."

Smith also wrote that FedEx would be prepared to sponsor a Big 12 championship game.

"We believe the University of Memphis and the Big 12 are a great fit and hope our support will contribute to the University of Memphis becoming a member of this storied athletic conference in the near future," Smith wrote.

Here is the link to the full ESPN story: Big 12 drawing interest from Houston, Memphis

I can't wait for some decision, any decision....I keep saying I'm done peeking, but I can't help it. It'll be nice to be able to focus on complaining about our usual crap in here soon, one way or the other. Ugh. Productivity: Zero....Point.....Zero
 
Another thing on these dumb FedEx promises.

Any "contribution" FedEx provides directly would be in the form of sponsorship or ad buys. They are not going to just hand a comically large 8-figure check to the B12 or Memphis.

A $10M sponsorship/ad buy commitment is not "worth" $10M. It's worth $10M MINUS whatever the 2nd-highest bidder would be willing to pay. If FedEx pays market rate, it's commitment is worth essentially NOTHING to the B12. And if someone else comes along who is willing to pay more, FedEx's commitment is worth less than nothing.

FedEx is a publicly-traded company. So they will never commit to paying more than the market rate for a sponsorship, for example, because that document would destroy them in a shareholder suit for misuse of company resources.

Given the company's fiduciary duties to its investors, FedEx can only make promises that have essentially no economic value.
 
dayooper said:
I took this one of two ways. Either Billy was saying NE football sucks, or there was an opening for a football power in the NE.
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Right now...northeastern football does....Penn State, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers...not horrible teams, but not good teams.

Penn State can pull up, I'm not sure about the rest.
 
VAHuskyFan said:
Another thing on these dumb FedEx promises.

Any "contribution" FedEx provides directly would be in the form of sponsorship or ad buys. They are not going to just hand a comically large 8-figure check to the B12 or Memphis.

A $10M sponsorship/ad buy commitment is not "worth" $10M. It's worth $10M MINUS whatever the 2nd-highest bidder would be willing to pay. If FedEx pays market rate, it's commitment is worth essentially NOTHING to the B12. And if someone else comes along who is willing to pay more, FedEx's commitment is worth less than nothing.

FedEx is a publicly-traded company. So they will never commit to paying more than the market rate for a sponsorship, for example, because that document would destroy them in a shareholder suit for misuse of company resources.

Given the company's fiduciary duties to its investors, FedEx can only make promises that have essentially no economic value.
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Right. The impact is delta, and if they pay above market they have fiduciary issues, if not it's useless. Also, this is probably why the networks are pissed...this doesn't help them one bit.
 
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billybud said:
Right now...northeastern football does....Penn State, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers...not horrible teams, but not good teams.

Penn State can pull up, I'm not sure about the rest.
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But why say it? It seems like extraneous information and it looks like you are saying that UConn doesn't belong because NE football sucks. No matter how it was intended, it wasn't part of the conversation and you provided it with explanation.
 
billybud said:
Right now...northeastern football does....Penn State, Syracuse, Boston College, Rutgers...not horrible teams, but not good teams.

Penn State can pull up, I'm not sure about the rest.
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BTW - BC football does suck and their greatest asset is gone.
 
Slasher said:
Yeah I'm not sure that's a premium/platinum tweet. 100% pure speculation (I know a lot of this forum is exactly that.)
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Yeah I fahked up. Saw 4k + followers and blew my load on the copy and paste. My bad.
 
sportsart said:
If Memphis gets in the Big 12 look for each Big 12 president to have 100 deposits over the next two years equaling $9999 per deposit.
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It would have to be lower than $9999. Multiple deposits of $9999 may buy a spot in the Big 12, but it will also buy you a visit from some of the federal government's finest.
 
HoopsFan21 said:
It would have to be lower than $9999. Multiple deposits of $9999 may buy a spot in the Big 12, but it will also buy you a visit from some of the federal government's finest.
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I thought under $10k was good.
 
CL82 said:
1. None of the expansion candidates is a property whose sporting events, namely football, are worth anything remotely close to $20 million. Houston, Cincinnati, BYU, UConn, Memphis...I mean, those are the good expansion candidates, and none of them has sports content worth close to half of $20 million annually.

Uh, no. In the free market we'd easily be able to get over $10M. Would be get to a full $20M? Don't know but it would be close and that's essentially shopping all the content as tier 3 content. Please stop lumping us in with Memphis and Houston. Cinci is a reach as well but not as bad. BYU's football has value.
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$2.50 x 12 x 1M = $30M
 
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sportsart said:
I thought under $10k was good.
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You are correct. Except the Fed also looks for multiple deposits of amounts near the $10k limit as a form of money laundering and possible tax evasion.

Plenty of examples available via Google search.
 
Not a tweet but I got an alert on my phone from the ESPN app this morning and my heart skipped a beat thinking it was about CR news. (This being one of the days bandied about as a day the news might break.) Instead it was to tell me Mark Teixeira would be retiring from the Yankees at the end of the season. Big sigh of relief.
 
Matt's Tramel interview summary.

Largely positive:

BYU and Connecticut are best in terms of national market.

Connecticut is in the biggest state in the union without flagship in the P5

Outside of geography, UConn meets Big 12 model. Flagship school, etc.

UConn definitely in the running.

BYU/Houston/Cinci and Connecticut are Tramel's top 4.

OU interested in playing in Boston or Meadowlands.

Football prowess is a problem, more so than geography. Don't want another Kansas. If it were 6 years ago UConn would have a much better case.

Possible that Memphis could buy its way in, but that would mean that Big 12 is dead.

OU doesn't want to be in a conference with Memphis

Memphis has nothing go for it other than two good years with a QB and coach that aren't there anymore. No academics, no fans, no stadium.

Possible that expansion could be done for 2017.

Tramel thinks Big 12 will expand, but in 2025 OU won't be in league, possibly UT, OSU and TT as well.

If 4: BYU, Houston, Cinci, UConn

If 2: BYU, Cinci. UConn's football pushes it below Cinci.​
 
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