Coaching wins

[UConn82]

It is more than Tara plays in a more difficult conference. Generally, we go deeper in the tournament than Stanford does.

 

[Plebe]

It is more than Tara plays in a more difficult conference. Generally, we go deeper in the tournament than Stanford does.

That, and UConn has been simply better than Stanford since the mid-90s.

 

[Ex Nutmegger]

Stanford was scheduled to play 30 regular season games this year just as was UConn. They are starting their third of a three game tournament in Florida against Hawaii in a few minutes.

However, their recent home game against Ohio State was canceled due to the fire smoke effect. Now, depending on their seeding, they may get a potential extra game to play in the PAC-12 tournament.

In any case, that’s one less possible win for Tara this year. I don’t feel sad for her on that score, because, by my count, she has coached 1,284 games to reach her current total of 1041(81.1%) while Geno has only had 1,168 opportunities to reach his current total of 1032(89.2%). By the way, it took Pat 1306 games to reach 1098(84.1%).

Just one more side story in what should be a very interesting season.

 

[chuck.r]

VanDerveer coaches her 1284th game as HC tonight against Hawaii. It will be interesting to follow their race next season to catch Summitt's all-time wins mark. On paper, Auriemma's torrid pace (36.5 wins per year - last 8 seasons) may be just enough to catch VanDerveer (30.5 wins per year, same period) before passing Summitt. His teams these next couple of years will have to go FF-title game deep to do it.

Regardless if he gets to 1098 wins ahead of VanDerveer, Auriemma's supporters will be able to say he accomplished the feat in fewer seasons and fewer total games as HC than both her and Summitt.

 

[WestCoastPup]

With regards to PAC-12 being a tougher conference ... that's mostly recent (last ~ 5 years). Prior to that it was Stanford and a bunch of "also rans", while UConn was battling it out in the "Old Big East", which was MUCH tougher than the Pac-10 / Pac-12.
All that to say, Geno's crazy win percentage (ave# wins) has been higher than Tara's for a couple decades now...

 

[Vowelguy]

Update thru 11/28

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1036 + 06 =1042
3. Geno .. . 1027 + 06 =1033
4. Stevens . 1011 + 07 =1018
5. Hatchell .1005 + 05 =1010
6. Stringer . 997 + 05 =1002
7. Foster ... 903
8. Conradt .. 900
9. McGraw ... 888 + 06 = 894
10. Selvig ... 865

15) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770 ​

30) Wilkes . 697 + 03 = 700 Rollins women's basketball coach Glenn Wilkes Jr. earns 700th career win​

31) Borseth. 691 + 03 = 694​

Earliest these could happen:

• TaraV ties PHS -- 2019-20 season

 

[Plebe]

Update thru 11/28

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1036 + 06 =1042
3. Geno .. . 1027 + 06 =1033
4. Stevens . 1011 + 07 =1018
5. Hatchell .1005 + 05 =1010
6. Stringer . 997 + 05 =1002
7. Foster ... 903
8. Conradt .. 900
9. McGraw ... 888 + 06 = 894
10. Selvig ... 865

15) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770 ​

30) Wilkes . 697 + 03 = 700 Rollins women's basketball coach Glenn Wilkes Jr. earns 700th career win​

31) Borseth. 691 + 03 = 694​

Earliest these could happen:

• TaraV ties PHS -- 2019-20 season

Nancy Fahey just hit win #750 last Friday with Illinois' win over Cal Poly:

Fahey Earns 750th Career Victory in Illini Win Over Cal Poly

 

[HuskyNan]

Update thru 11/28

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1036 + 06 =1042
3. Geno .. . 1027 + 06 =1033
4. Stevens . 1011 + 07 =1018
5. Hatchell .1005 + 05 =1010
6. Stringer . 997 + 05 =1002
7. Foster ... 903
8. Conradt .. 900
9. McGraw ... 888 + 06 = 894
10. Selvig ... 865

15) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770 ​

30) Wilkes . 697 + 03 = 700 Rollins women's basketball coach Glenn Wilkes Jr. earns 700th career win​

31) Borseth. 691 + 03 = 694​

Earliest these could happen:

• TaraV ties PHS -- 2019-20 season

Oooh, I know where Rollins College is! It's in Winter Park Florida, in eastern Orlando. Yay, another team to root for.

 

[CL82]

Update thru 11/28

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1036 + 06 =1042
3. Geno .. . 1027 + 06 =1033
4. Stevens . 1011 + 07 =1018
5. Hatchell .1005 + 05 =1010
6. Stringer . 997 + 05 =1002
7. Foster ... 903
8. Conradt .. 900
9. McGraw ... 888 + 06 = 894
10. Selvig ... 865

15) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770 ​

30) Wilkes . 697 + 03 = 700 Rollins women's basketball coach Glenn Wilkes Jr. earns 700th career win​

31) Borseth. 691 + 03 = 694​

Earliest these could happen:

• TaraV ties PHS -- 2019-20 season

I love these Vowelguy. Thanks for doing them!

 

[Vowelguy]

Thru 12/3:

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1036 + 06 =1042
3. Geno .. . 1027 + 07 =1034
4. Stevens . 1011 + 08 =1019
5. Hatchell .1005 + 05 =1010
6. Stringer . 997 + 05 =1002
7. Foster ... 903
8. Conradt .. 900
9. McGraw ... 888 + 07 = 895
10. Selvig ... 865

15) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770​

16) Blair .. 765 + 04 = 769 ​

30) Wilkes . 697 + 04 = 701 ​

31) Borseth. 691 + 03 = 694​

 

[MilfordHusky]

The Haley Jones effect may make this close.

 

[Buzzyboy]

With regards to PAC-12 being a tougher conference ... that's mostly recent (last ~ 5 years). Prior to that it was Stanford and a bunch of "also rans", while UConn was battling it out in the "Old Big East", which was MUCH tougher than the Pac-10 / Pac-12.
All that to say, Geno's crazy win percentage (ave# wins) has been higher than Tara's for a couple decades now...

Exactly! The Pac 10 wasn't nearly as competitive as was the Big East for a number of years!

 

[Suebird10fan]

Geno is very likely to pass Tara by April of 2019. I’m expecting around 37 wins this year for Geno, 26 for Tara. That gap should close the following year but I’d still anticipate Geno winning maybe 3 to 6 more than Tara next year. It will be close-ish but I’d put a lot of money on Geno getting to 1,098 first.

 

[Vowelguy]

Geno is very likely to pass Tara by April of 2019.

VERY likely?

 

[Suebird10fan]

VERY likely?

I would put his chances > 70%

 

[UConn82]

I really enjoy this thread.

Please keep posting. Much appreciated.

 

[Ex Nutmegger]

Ditto

 

[hussybulldog]

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Geno is very likely to pass Tara by April of 2019. I’m expecting around 37 wins this year for Geno, 26 for Tara. That gap should close the following year but I’d still anticipate Geno winning maybe 3 to 6 more than Tara next year. It will be close-ish but I’d put a lot of money on Geno getting to 1,098 first.

I think Tara might be still a couple of games ahead of Geno at the end of this season, but will be passed by soon later in the fall of 2019..

 

[j66kicker]

I don’t care who passes Pat first. I just hope Geno, once he does pass Pat and Tara, just keeps increasing his lead until it’s insurmountable. Guess it just depends who retires first...

 

[Plebe]

I don’t care who passes Pat first. I just hope Geno, once he does pass Pat and Tara, just keeps increasing his lead until it’s insurmountable. Guess it just depends who retires first...

I'm intrigued by the race to 1,098, but it matters little to me who actually gets there first.

Wouldn't it be cool if somehow Geno and Tara were tied at 1,097 or 1,098 (or one was only one win ahead of the other) and then UConn and Stanford faced each other in the next game? Might that happen in the 2020 postseason?

 

[Vowelguy]

I don’t care who passes Pat first. I just hope Geno, once he does pass Pat and Tara, just keeps increasing his lead until it’s insurmountable. Guess it just depends who retires first...

Yes retirement is ultimately the issue. Whoever coaches the longest -- and this includes Barbara Stevens and Muffet -- will likely end as the leader.

 

[j66kicker]

I'm intrigued by the race to 1,098, but it matters little to me who actually gets there first.

Wouldn't it be cool if somehow Geno and Tara were tied at 1,097 or 1,098 (or one was only one win ahead of the other) and then UConn and Stanford faced each other in the next game? Might that happen in the 2020 postseason?

If Tara passes Pat first, then she will have some time, however short, as the winningest coach.

If Geno gets there first, then Tara will only ever be the winningest coach if she outlives Geno (coaching-wise, that is). If that were the case she might stay in that position for a very long time.

Another highly possible scenario is she does both - beats Geno to the top, then gets passed by Geno shortly thereafter, then coaches longer than him and passes him again.

 

[Vowelguy]

Thru 12/6:

1. Summitt . 1098
2. Tara .. . 1036 + 06 =1042
3. Geno .. . 1027 + 08 =1035
4. Stevens . 1011 + 09 =1020
5. Hatchell .1005 + 06 =1011
6. Stringer . 997 + 05 =1002
7. Foster ... 903
8. Conradt .. 900
9. McGraw ... 888 + 07 = 895
10. Selvig ... 865

15) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770​

16) Blair .. 765 + 05 = 770 ​

30) Wilkes . 697 + 04 = 701 ​

31) Borseth. 691 + 03 = 694​

 

[oldude]

I note that Coach Hatchell continues to limp along with UNC’s OOC cupcake schedule. So far this season, the Tar Heels have played 1 ranked team, KY, and lost. They also have losses to unranked Maine, CO & tOSU. There best win so far was a 2 pt victory over USF without Laksa.

 

[Ex Nutmegger]

I agree with Hussybulldog(I’d love to hear the basis for that handle, by the way) that Geno will very likely/most likely pass Tara during (or before?) the NC. I also think he is a safe bet to get to 1099 first.

It’s certainly possible that j66kicker’s scenario comes true and Tara tops Geno in the long run because she coaches longer than he does. And it is very possible she will coach longer. I believe she has a smoother job(I won’t use the word “easier as it sounds condescending). Instead of flying under the radar she seems to almost fly over the radar. She has an easier travel schedule for away games and, most likely for recruiting. Stanford does a lot of her recruiting for her as evidenced anecdotally by my neighbor Haley Jone’s commitment. Her reputation is that of a really great coach with virtually no aspersions cast her way - the epitome of a good role model.

Geno’s reputation on the other hand seems to be that of a really, really, really great coach with just the slightest teeny tiny edge to him. That has caused some unfounded aspersions to be hurled at him from two spots in the country - one in the mid-South and one in the mid-West. I don’t think he lets it bother him, but only he knows for sure.

Muffet is another threat to surpass Geno, albeit a lessor one. Her reputation is teetering right now, but will probably survive due to media suppression. The people at Notre Dumb have the NCAA and everyone associated with it, including ESPN and the rest of the sports media wrapped around their “little” finger and will protect and promote Muffet and her players to the max. Muffet has enough negative energy in her that she will fight as long as she can to surpass him in any way posssible; and this is probably his only record she has a shot at.