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Unless, of course, you're Tyler Summitt.
Well nepotism is always good if you have that working for you. Where's he at on the career wins list? I seem to recall it didn't work out all that well for him in the job he was gifted.
 

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Uhhh ...

2018: 24
2017: 28
2016: 20
2015: 23

Care to add anything @CamrnCrz1974 ?
Joanne P McCallie's contract was extended through the end of the 2020-21 season. I am not sure if she will continue coaching beyond that contract -- and if she does, I am not sure that will be at Duke. She has had some health issues in recent years, so I could see her taking a step back.

Then again, she has a son in college and a daughter in graduate school, so there are bills to be paid (assuming Coach P and her husband are paying for school - her daughter had an athletic scholarship to Miami and later to Elon). Also there is the "empty nest" syndrome -- what to do when the kids are out of the house (and her husband -- who is around 68 years old -- is no longer teaching at UNC).

Honestly, it could go either way, whether she stays at Duke after 2021 and whether she stays in coaching.

But 25-28 wins per year is asking quite a bit if the recent trend is any indicator. In her last 4 years at Michigan State, McCallie averaged 25.75 wins per season (after building that program into one of the elite Big Ten teams). In her first 7 seasons at Duke, Coach P averaged 28.8 wins per year. But in the last four years, her Duke teams have averaged 23.75 wins per year.

I am curious to read what @triaddukefan has to say, but I think @vowelguy noted that her recent win totals do not give much encouragement to winning 25-28 games per year.

That being said, Duke loses very little this year, while Louisville and Notre Dame lose quite a bit to graduation. With a healthy Kyra Lambert returning, Duke could be incredibly formidable in 2019-20. A very good season season (say, 28-30 wins, finishing at or near the top of the ACC, and making it to the Sweet 16 or Elite Eight) could bolster recruiting and could lead to Coach P wanting to stay a few more years -- and another contract extension.
 

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Thru 12/16:
  1. Summitt . 1098
  2. Tara .. . 1036 + 07 =1043
  3. Geno .. . 1027 + 09 =1036
  4. Stevens . 1011 + 12 =1023
  5. Hatchell .1005 + 07 =1012
  6. Stringer . 997 + 07 =1004
  7. Foster ... 903
  8. Conradt .. 900
  9. McGraw ... 888 + 09 = 897
  10. Selvig ... 865
15) Blair .. 765 + 08 = 773 <- Blair jumps to 15th
16) Foley .. 768 + 02 = 770
30) Wilkes . 697 + 05 = 702
31) Borseth. 691 + 04 = 695
 
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@vowelguy....thank you for doing this.

As a point of "reference": Think of how many seasons "behind" anybody is from anybody else. If Geno quit today, it'd take Muffet about 4 seasons to even get to where Geno is today. Hatchell a season, stringer more than a season.
 

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Thru 12/30:
  1. Summitt . 1098
  2. Tara .. . 1036 + 10 =1046
  3. Geno .. . 1027 + 11 =1038
  4. Stevens . 1011 + 12 =1023
  5. Hatchell .1005 + 09 =1014
  6. Stringer . 997 + 08 =1005
  7. Foster ... 903
  8. Conradt .. 900
  9. McGraw ... 888 + 12 = 900
  10. Selvig ... 865
  11. Landers .. 862
  12. Frdrcksn . 846
  13. Yosinoff . 808 + 08 = 816 <- moved into 13th
  14. Strong . . 815
  15. Blair .... 765 + 11 = 776
  16. Foley .... 768 + 04 = 772
  17. Shirley .. 748 + 11 = 759
  18. Kahler . . 757
  19. Fahey . .. 746 + 08 = 754
  20. Perretta . 746 + 08 = 754
30) Wilkes . 697 + 07 = 704
31) Borseth. 691 + 06 = 697
 
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Barbara Stevens turned 64 in September. She is six months younger than Geno. She has been coaching at the college/university level for 41 years. She is just 15 wins behind Geno. Geno has been coaching for 33 years,

For the past 32 years Stevens has coached at Bentley University, a Division II school in Waltham, a very nice suburb of Boston. It appears Bentley supports athletics very well, In fact their hockey team plays at DI level. Her record at Bentley has been very good - only one losing season in all 32 years.

Previous to Bentley she did coach at the DI level for three years, at UMass. During those three years her record was 34 wins and 49 loses - NOT very good, In her third year at UMass(her tenth year as a head coach) Barbara played the UConn team whom they had beaten the previous year) now led by a brand new head coach named Auriemma. Geno was coaching in just his seventh game, and we’ve all heard about the conditions he was coaching under. I will leave it to you to guess who won.

In her first six years Stevens was head coach at Clark University, a DIII level school. She did very well at Clark, amassing 123 of her wins there. Did I mention Clark is Division THREE?

As I said above, Stevens is doing a great job at Bentley. We will never know what happened at UMass. Some of it had to have been the pressures of recruiting and scholarships, travel, etc. Clearly, there is a huge difference between DI sports and DII and DIII.

I am not writing this to suggest Stevens be taken off the list. I wouldn’t deign to have the pull or power to suggest such a thing. And furthermore, I think she should be there. She deserves acclimation. And this board, more than any group except for some of the sports media, is made up of people who can provide observation, measurement and acclimation to those in the basketball world who are deserving.

I just wanted to point out that I think the list is appropriate; but, like many similar lists, it contains both Apples and Oranges (and maybe even a Kumquat or two).
 

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Amherst's GP Gromacki got his 500th win on Monday. 500-63 all time.
Gromacki rings out 2018 in style

The fastest coach to reach 600 wins is Wash U's Nancy Fahey in 706 games (Geno did it in 716). Gromacki is on pace to smash that record.
 
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All three of the very good coaches mentioned above took over and started with programs that were in a much better position than the one Geno started with.
I’m sure they inherited higher ranking existing players relative to competing teams, better budgets, better facilities and recent histories of strong winning seasons.

While those three have maintained very good programs for quite a while, we need to remember that when Geno came out of the starting gate he was metaphorically looking ahead at the tails of their horses already at the quarter-mile post. I believe that if and when those three start into the home stretch(i.e. nearing 1000 wins) he will already be in the winner’s circle receiving the roses.
 
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All three of the very good coaches mentioned above took over and started with programs that were in a much better position than the one Geno started with.
I’m sure they inherited higher ranking existing players relative to competing teams, better budgets, better facilities and recent histories of strong winning seasons.
I don't know about the state of the programs that Gromacki and Fahey took over, but Baylor was 7-20 the season before Mulkey took over in 2000. It's true they had made the WNIT the two seasons prior to that, and surely had better facilities than what Geno found at UConn in 1985.
 

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I don't know about the state of the programs that Gromacki and Fahey took over, but Baylor was 7-20 the season before Mulkey took over in 2000. It's true they had made the WNIT the two seasons prior to that, and surely had better facilities than what Geno found at UConn in 1985.
Plebe, I would also add that Baylor was in a much better conference when Kim took over and Baylor did not have a WCBB following compared to OU, TAM, Texas or even OK St who were established teams, whereas Geno was in the Big East that back in 1985-86 was not a great conference.

I don't get the need by so many members of this forum to go overboard to an illogical point in touting Geno. Geno is by far the top coach in basketball, his legacy is well established and we should be secure enough to note there are other very good coaches as well and not feel the need to immediately point out "how hard Geno had it". Just because someone may eclipse his fastest to whatever number wins doesn't mean they are better than him, it means that they are a VERY GOOD COACH.

What we tend to forget is the coaches on this list are in the 1% of their peers with unparalleled success in their careers that they all should be lauded. Please note, I didn't say "Liked" but congratulated on these achievements.
 

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Thru 1/6:
  1. Summitt . 1098
  2. Tara .. . 1036 + 12 =1048
  3. Geno .. . 1027 + 12 =1039
  4. Stevens . 1011 + 13 =1024
  5. Hatchell .1005 + 09 =1014
  6. Stringer . 997 + 11 =1008
  7. Foster ... 903
  8. Conradt .. 900
  9. McGraw ... 888 + 14 = 902
  10. Selvig ... 865
  11. Landers .. 862
  12. Frdrcksn . 846
  13. Yosinoff . 808 + 08 = 816
  14. Strong . . 815
  15. Blair .... 765 + 11 = 776
  16. Foley .... 768 + 06 = 774
  17. Shirley .. 748 + 14 = 762
  18. Kahler . . 757
  19. Perretta . 746 + 10 = 756
  20. Fahey . .. 746 + 09 = 755
31) Borseth. 691 + 07 = 698
 
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Connie Tilley, 34th all time in wins (684) is retiring at the end of this season.
This is her 42nd season at D3 St Norbert College (WI), tying her at 1st (with 3 others) for longest at one school, among coaches with 600+ wins.
Andy Yosinoff of Emmanuel in Boston will move into 1st if he coaches next year.
 

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Kim notched her 550th win today. Sits at 550-99 while in her 19th season at Baylor. Looks like she can hit 600 wins by her 20th season.
Timing was never a Baylor strong suit was it? Putting this on the thread so soon after last week is a bit like salt in the wound...Head bang
 

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