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I'd much rather him use this excuse; if we just didn't keep running into UConn…………………………………………

Of course, that's a common lament for many teams in the last 16 years, or so…
 
I don't hate Cal, he is what he is...

I hate that Billy Gillispie couldn't stay sober and coach UK one more season. 2009-10 would have been our (Memphis') title year IMHO.

John Wall (1st round, 1st pick)
Elliot Williams (1st round, 22nd pick)
Xavier Henry (1st round, 12th pick)
Wesley Witherspoon
DeMarcus Cousins (1st round, 5th pick)
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Willie Kemp
Doneal Mack
Roburt Sallie
Will Coleman
Angel Garcia
 
UofMemphis said:
I don't hate Cal, he is what he is...

I hate that Billy Gillispie couldn't stay sober and coach UK one more season. 2009-10 would have been our (Memphis') title year IMHO.

John Wall (1st round, 1st pick)
Elliot Williams (1st round, 22nd pick)
Xavier Henry (1st round, 12th pick)
Wesley Witherspoon
DeMarcus Cousins (1st round, 5th pick)
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Willie Kemp
Doneal Mack
Roburt Sallie
Will Coleman
Angel Garcia
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One talent Cal does have is riding out of town ahead of the posse. Cal was going somewhere, it just ended up being Kentucky.
 
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pj said:
If you are going to allow the injured player excuse, Iowa State (Niang), Arizona (Ashley), Kansas (Embiid), and a few others would have a better excuse than Kentucky.
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Actually the strength of those schools was diminished with the loss of those players.
In Ky case the team.actually played their best ball after his minutes were reduced.
I'm not knocking the kid ,he may turn out to be a superstar The numbers say that team chemistry,and results were better without him. He could have been nursing injuries all year.
His situation could have been similar to ours with OC.
 
UofMemphis said:
I don't hate Cal, he is what he is...

I hate that Billy Gillispie couldn't stay sober and coach UK one more season. 2009-10 would have been our (Memphis') title year IMHO.

John Wall (1st round, 1st pick)
Elliot Williams (1st round, 22nd pick)
Xavier Henry (1st round, 12th pick)
Wesley Witherspoon
DeMarcus Cousins (1st round, 5th pick)
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Willie Kemp
Doneal Mack
Roburt Sallie
Will Coleman
Angel Garcia
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It would have been vacated.
 
BugsyCT said:
He restocks his cabinet every year with McDs AA one-and-dones, and his gripe is that he was one injured player short of winning it all? Boo--hoo.

Suck it, Squid. 60-54. Scoreboard.
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Seriously, after their one center goes down they need to go scrape the bottom of the barrel and get their backup McD AA Center and Forward to play. Must be tough. If anyone had close to that gripe it was Hoiberg.
 
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traitor71 said:
He's great at playing the "woe is me" card.
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This ……….the woe is me was front and center during this whole interview. Even when Mike said to him "you have to push kids away when you recruit because you are Kentucky" he had some reply which made him look like UK had little to do with it, it's all him!

Mouth breathing slime….so hard to listen to. I try to listen and understand how parents can actually like or believe this man……it's really hard to fathom.
 
mauconnfan said:
I try to listen and understand how parents can actually like or believe this man……it's really hard to fathom.
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From a parents' perspective, you have to feel on top of the world if Calipari is recruiting your kid. It means your kid is very soon likely to be very rich. And then they'll move on and sign an NBA contract...

Honestly, Calipari and Kentucky are tailor made for each other. Kentucky and its fans couldn't care less about notions of these kids being students; Kentucky is a weigh station for kids whose trajectory already had them becoming pros. Calipari is perfect for that model...player-centric and not burdened with any pesky ethics like Tubby Smith.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
From a parents' perspective, you have to feel on top of the world if Calipari is recruiting your kid. It means your kid is very soon likely to be very rich. And then they'll move on and sign an NBA contract...

Honestly, Calipari and Kentucky are tailor made for each other. Kentucky and its fans couldn't care less about notions of these kids being students; Kentucky is a weigh station for kids whose trajectory already had them becoming pros. Calipari is perfect for that model...player-centric and not burdened with any pesky ethics like Tubby Smith.
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Mr. Wonderful said:
From a parents' perspective, you have to feel on top of the world if Calipari is recruiting your kid. It means your kid is very soon likely to be very rich. And then they'll move on and sign an NBA contract...

Honestly, Calipari and Kentucky are tailor made for each other. Kentucky and its fans couldn't care less about notions of these kids being students; Kentucky is a weigh station for kids whose trajectory already had them becoming pros. Calipari is perfect for that model...player-centric and not burdened with any pesky ethics like Tubby Smith.
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Solid point…….."who's kids will be very rich but not all that much better than when they got here.." more often than not. He was quick to point out in his interview he's already put 20 kids in the NBA at UK. He didn't happen to mention that if the NBA hand't put an age minimum on them 15 or so would have never seen a campus at all. And thinking about how many Top 10, McD AA's he's had and only TWO are trying out for the USA team? When you actually dig into his years there it's much less impressive than first view!!
 
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Mr. Wonderful said:
From a parents' perspective, you have to feel on top of the world if Calipari is recruiting your kid. It means your kid is very soon likely to be very rich. And then they'll move on and sign an NBA contract...

Honestly, Calipari and Kentucky are tailor made for each other. Kentucky and its fans couldn't care less about notions of these kids being students; Kentucky is a weigh station for kids whose trajectory already had them becoming pros. Calipari is perfect for that model...player-centric and not burdened with any pesky ethics like Tubby Smith.
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This is a good point. You see a lot of guys holding out on their recruitment until they get sniffs from the big boys, especially UK. They want to get their names in the national conversation, because marketing yourself (brand) is an important piece of the draft process. They don't even have to go to UK to benefit from this.
 
intlzncster said:
Celebrations when you win, built in excuse when you fail.

Cal can't lose.
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It isn't just him either. I was discussing this with a friend of mine who is a Kentucky fan and his position is "well, you need to understand something. We were an NIT team before Cal came here and built it up."

I still don't know how to reply.
 
It's also worth noting that quite a few of Kentucky's big-name recruits would have declared straight out of high school if it were still allowed.
 
traitor71 said:
It isn't just him either. I was discussing this with a friend of mine who is a Kentucky fan and his position is "well, you need to understand something. We were an NIT team before Cal came here and built it up."

I still don't know how to reply.
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There's no injecting reason into a conversation with a Kentucky fan.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
From a parents' perspective, you have to feel on top of the world if Calipari is recruiting your kid. It means your kid is very soon likely to be very rich. And then they'll move on and sign an NBA contract...

Honestly, Calipari and Kentucky are tailor made for each other. Kentucky and its fans couldn't care less about notions of these kids being students; Kentucky is a weigh station for kids whose trajectory already had them becoming pros. Calipari is perfect for that model...player-centric and not burdened with any pesky ethics like Tubby Smith.
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I don't think UK fans particularly care for all the one and dones.
They like to adopt a player as a favorite and constant change gets old.
They like most other fans of successful programs are easily seduced by winning.
AZ first law of coaching integrity applies here.
"The fans acceptance of a coach's lack of integrity is directly proportional to his winning percentage"
UK fans more than most ,because winning in BB is such an expected thing, especially since their only other sports success is cheerleading.
I think the NCAA last year ensured Calipari's job. Absent the run they were a second place team in a weak SEC,behind Fla. Coming on the heels of an NIT embarrassment..
A first round loss in the NCAA and the natives would have been calling for his scalp.. John being who he is would have signed a NBA contract the day after the loss.Say what you want about him but like any good con man ,he knows when it's time to get out of Dodge.
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
A first round loss in the NCAA and the natives would have been calling for his scalp.. John being who he is would have signed a NBA contract the day after the loss.Say what you want about him but like any good con man ,he knows when it's time to get out of Dodge.
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I didn't imagine it was possible for anyone to do this, but you're actually persuading me that the NCAA tourney didn't go as well for us as it should have.
 
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pj said:
I didn't imagine it was possible for anyone to do this, but you're actually persuading me that the NCAA tourney didn't go as well for us as it should have.
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You kidding me? We own Kentucky when it counts. Give me Cal in the NCAA tournament all day every day. That's a UCONN win every time.
 
AstarIsBorn31 said:
He def went home that night and couldnt stop thinking about it... While Mike was home sleeping like a baby...
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I'm sure mike had a buffet style dinner that helped him sleep like a baby. Good for Mike though for once though. However, between him and squid the air in the room must have been at critical levels with those two massive egos in one studio.
 
intlzncster said:
You kidding me? We own Kentucky when it counts. Give me Cal in the NCAA tournament all day every day. That's a UCONN win every time.
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Heh. Maybe that's the thing to root for, but I'm thinking we would win with or without Cal, and it would be a bonus to see him fail his way out of college ball.
 
huskyblooz said:
If Kentucky won it was like "look at me I won with five freshmen starting"\
If Kentucky lost it was like "well, they're all freshmen"
He wants it both ways.
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I actually think he's way to smart to take credit for his successes. He knows that to recruit the best kids you have to stroke their egos. When they did win the title, he said very little about himself--everything was on the players. When they lose, he at first blames himself.

Now, all that seems honorable, in it's own way. It's what you want a coach to say. But what he says versus what he does are two different things. It's no surprise that the PG of the team that went to the NIT transferred...despite not having any transfer time left. Lots of players "take off." And what makes him so insufferable to me is that he really knows how to play the game, and plays it well.
 
How is it possible to have a 45 minute conversation and say absolutely nothing that's genuine? At least with KO you know he means what he says.
 
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