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7774 said:
No I have it figured out because my brain functions on a normal level.

I'm feeling charitable today, so I'll help you out with an example of how your brain works, and why you're confused:

Syracuse had a first round draft pick this year + a first rounder last year + a first rounder in 2014 + a first rounder in 2013 + 2 first rounders in 2012 + a first rounder in 2010 + a first rounder in 2009 + a first rounder in 2008 = "not anything special in terms of getting players to the NBA".
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Of note, however, is that he badmouthed a couple of those guys publicly because he didn't want them to leave... Grant and Richardson come to mind, but probably not a complete list...
 
eos91 said:
Of note, however, is that he badmouthed a couple of those guys publicly because he didn't want them to leave... Grant and Richardson come to mind, but probably not a complete list...
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I believe he made those type of comments about Tyler Ennis as well.

I'd bet it's a long list of players who would live with comments like that if they were first round picks.
 
7774 said:
No I have it figured out because my brain functions on a normal level.

I'm feeling charitable today, so I'll help you out with an example of how your brain works, and why you're confused:

Syracuse had a first round draft pick this year + a first rounder last year + a first rounder in 2014 + a first rounder in 2013 + 2 first rounders in 2012 + a first rounder in 2010 + a first rounder in 2009 + a first rounder in 2008 = "not anything special in terms of getting players to the NBA".
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You make some good points but you suck at making them. The "my brain functions on a normal level" is such an arrogant way of you letting us know you really believe you are so much more intelligent than everyone it's sickening. Not at all a person to hang out with I'm guessing, but hey I could be wrong you could have quite a few fellow Einsteins to share thoughts with, who knows?
 
Yankees32123 said:
No there are not lots. In most high school recruit's minds, the order of prestige in the ACC probably goes Duke, UNC, Louisville, Syracuse in that order. Virginia, Notre Dame, and NC State probably follow, but Syracuse is in the top 4 or 5 as far as perceived basketball prestige goes in that conference.
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This isn't 1987 anymore. I don't agree with that "prestige" ranking. If the kid cared about academics, there is no way he picks cuse over UVA or Notre Dame. If he wanted a nice place to hang out for a year while waiting for the NBA, he would never choose cuse ovee Miami. Hell, he wouldn't choose that snow bound, run down hell hole over anywhere. If he cared about coaching quality, UVA is one example of a better choice. Want to play an NBA -style game? Cuse is not the place for you.
 
mauconnfan said:
You make some good points but you suck at making them. The "my brain functions on a normal level" is such an arrogant way of you letting us know you really believe you are so much more intelligent than everyone it's sickening. Not at all a person to hang out with I'm guessing, but hey I could be wrong you could have quite a few fellow Einsteins to share thoughts with, who knows?
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No, he doesn't. It is a classic Napoleon complex. Little penis? Buy a big pickup truck. Dumba$$? Insult other people's intelligence. There is nothing impressive about this guy other than how big of a he can be.
 
Yankees32123 said:
If you were a high school recruit without our crazy anti-Syracuse bias, why wouldn't you want to play in a football stadium under a hall of fame coach in the ACC? To pretend there is no draw to Syracuse is stupid. I hate the orange, their coach, Devendorf, and almost everything about that sh!thole of a program, but I know college basketball and there is a lot of draw to these kids.
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Look, you are trying to be a "good fan" that respects his opponents. I get it. But you are living in the past. At one tine that stadium might have been impressive. The novelty wore off long ago and now it is a dumpy balloon.

Yeah, Boeheim is in the hall of fame, I will give you that. But he is an old man now that has been smacked by the NCAA twice, including having lots of wins vacated. He is more than a little tarnished and worn down.

My standards are high. There is nothing special about Boeheim or the university. And that city is a dump, period.
 
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7774 said:
No I have it figured out because my brain functions on a normal level.

I'm feeling charitable today, so I'll help you out with an example of how your brain works, and why you're confused:

Syracuse had a first round draft pick this year + a first rounder last year + a first rounder in 2014 + a first rounder in 2013 + 2 first rounders in 2012 + a first rounder in 2010 + a first rounder in 2009 + a first rounder in 2008 = "not anything special in terms of getting players to the NBA".
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My standard for special is a little higher and, perhaps, a lot higher. Maybe that is why you think you are special.

When recruits use, "he gets players into the league" as a reason/excuse for picking a team/coach, it is rarely, if EVER, Syracuse and Boeheim. You hear that excuse reserved for guys like the squid or coach K. Boeheim may be above average. That's nice but it doesn't make up for Syracuse being an armpit and Boeheim being an old man.
 
Paesano said:
My standard for special is a little higher and, perhaps, a lot higher. Maybe that is why you think you are special.

When recruits use, "he gets players into the league" as a reason/excuse for picking a team/coach, it is rarely, if EVER, Syracuse and Boeheim. You hear that excuse reserved for guys like the squid or coach K. Boeheim may be above average. That's nice but it doesn't make up for Syracuse being an armpit and Boeheim being an old man.
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Hey if you want to ignore basic facts and continue to be confused about this subject, feel free. It's par for the course with you.

I know by your standard Syracuse isn't special at producing NBA talent, but most recruits aren't delusional morons, so they're not going to use your standard. They are going to look at the fact that only a handful out of 300+ college basketball teams can list off the type of draft success I did with Syracuse earlier, which does make them special on just a basic factual level.

But again, continue on with your quest to solve one of the biggest mysteries in the world. Why basketball players would want to go to Syracuse University.
 
7774 said:
Hey if you want to ignore basic facts and continue to be confused about this subject, feel free. It's par for the course with you.

I know by your standard Syracuse isn't special at producing NBA talent, but most recruits aren't delusional morons, so they're not going to use your standard. They are going to look at the fact that only a handful out of 300+ college basketball teams can list off the type of draft success I did with Syracuse earlier, which does make them special on just a basic factual level.

But again, continue on with your quest to solve one of the biggest mysteries in the world. Why basketball players would want to go to Syracuse University.
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From here on out I will refer to you simply as Napoleon. I refer you to the following links. Do you see common threads, Napoleon?

Syracuse Gets Lighter Penalty Than Expected : College basketball: Sanctions include a ban from NCAA tournament this season and two years' probation for the school's athletic program.
Syracuse's NCAA violations cost scholarships, earn Boeheim nine-game ban
 
Paesano said:
From here on out I will refer to you simply as Napoleon. I refer you to the following links. Do you see common threads, Napoleon?

Syracuse Gets Lighter Penalty Than Expected : College basketball: Sanctions include a ban from NCAA tournament this season and two years' probation for the school's athletic program.
Syracuse's NCAA violations cost scholarships, earn Boeheim nine-game ban
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So you're confused about why Syracuse continues to recruit good players, and one of your pieces of "evidence" is an article about how Syracuse got a lighter penalty that expected, which seems like a great reason why Syracuse could continue to recruit good players. It must be so odd to have no ability to process information on even the most basic level.

Not to mention neither of these articles have anything to do with the topic we were discussing, Syracuse's ability to produce NBA draft picks, but I guess at this point even you have managed to figure out how idiotic it was to go down that path.
 
Paesano said:
My standard for special is a little higher and, perhaps, a lot higher. Maybe that is why you think you are special.

When recruits use, "he gets players into the league" as a reason/excuse for picking a team/coach, it is rarely, if EVER, Syracuse and Boeheim. You hear that excuse reserved for guys like the squid or coach K. Boeheim may be above average. That's nice but it doesn't make up for Syracuse being an armpit and Boeheim being an old man.
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No one has produced more NBA Draft talent than Duke in the modern era

There are only 7 schools that have produced more NBA draft picks in the past 20 years than Cuse has. Cuse closed the gap with UConn by 1 this year.
 
7774 said:
So you're confused about why Syracuse continues to recruit good players, and one of your pieces of "evidence" is an article about how Syracuse got a lighter penalty that expected, which seems like a great reason why Syracuse could continue to recruit good players. It must be so odd to have no ability to process information on even the most basic level.

Not to mention neither of these articles have anything to do with the topic we were discussing, Syracuse's ability to produce NBA draft picks, but I guess at this point even you have managed to figure out how idiotic it was to go down that path.
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Oh, Napoleon, you poor tortured soul. Actually, the original topic was why a kid would choose syracuse. Those two links might give you a clue, or not.
 
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WingU-Conn said:
No one has produced more NBA Draft talent than Duke in the modern era

There are only 7 schools that have produced more NBA draft picks in the past 20 years than Cuse has. Cuse closed the gap with UConn by 1 this year.
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These kids weren't alive 20 years ago and probably don't remember a damn thing about college basketball going back any farther than 10 years. But let's get this out of the way. Yes, Boeheim is above average at getting players into the league. My point WAS, and still is, that these kids don't view him like they do the squid or coach K in this regard. I don't recall a single recruit in the last decade or so say that they picked the cuse because of Boeheim's success in getting players into the league. Maybe they did and I don't remember hearing it because I detest the cuse. Still, he isn't viewed as an NBA prep machine like squiddy or K. Can't deny that. If Richards says that, well, perception is reality. Let's see wha happens.
 
Paesano said:
Oh, Napoleon, you poor tortured soul. Actually, the original topic was why a kid would choose syracuse. Those two links might give you a clue, or not.
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I wasn't talking about the original topic, as I noted I was talking about the topic you and I were discussing.

And again, everyone but you already understands why kids would choose Syracuse.
 
Paesano said:
Oh, Napoleon, you poor tortured soul. Actually, the original topic was why a kid would choose syracuse. Those two links might give you a clue, or not.
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Devils advocate here...

Why would a recruit want to go to uconn? Storrs isnt exactly the nicest of places unless you like cows and cold winters, bad conference, we got hit harder than cuse with sanctions, up until a couple years ago we had a similar cranky old white guy coach, etc

4>1 is fun and all but a lot of the years in between we've struggled
 
Paesano said:
These kids weren't alive 20 years ago and probably don't remember a damn thing about college basketball going back any farther than 10 years. But let's get this out of the way. Yes, Boeheim is above average at getting players into the league. My point WAS, and still is, that these kids don't view him like they do the squid or coach K in this regard. I don't recall a single recruit in the last decade or so say that they picked the cuse because of Boeheim's success in getting players into the league. Maybe they did and I don't remember hearing it because I detest the cuse. Still, he isn't viewed as an NBA prep machine like squiddy or K. Can't deny that. If Richards says that, well, perception is reality. Let's see wha happens.
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God what the duck are you talking about at this point?
 
to me Syracuse recruiting is simple. They have a HOF coach, they're in a big conference and they play in a huge arena.

UConn recruiting is a a young likeable coach who plays pro-style, he's got a ring, family atmosphere and history of winning
 
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KemBuckets21 said:
I think our biggest sell is KO. Dude is charismatic as F.
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More than that. He is young and energetic. He played in the league for many years and knows what it takes to succeed there. He mentored and is friends with KD and LeBron. He knows a TON of NBA people.

And while storrs may not be a hopping environment or a southern beach location, it isn't a dump like syracuse and the weather in cuse is much worse than than the already not so great storrs. The UConn campus is actually a nice rural campus.
 
They play in the acc
They have a hof coach
They play in a famous arena
They have put many kids in the NBA
They get lots of exposure on ESPN
They get a good education

They aren't perfect, but there is some appeal to playing there.
 
Good players go there. They get to play in front of a lot of fans for a HOF coach. He can recruit obviously.

Very few of them are well prepared for the NBA nor are they much better when they leave it would seem?
 
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Huskyforlife said:
Not sure how bold this is, but mark this down.

We will get one of Richards or Bamba

If Richards commits to cuse or Kentucky, Ollie will focus all his energy on Bamba.
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is it kind of like the PG situation with Green or Trae going to UK or Duke and then leaving us with MAL or Waters?
 
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