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Bouknight applies for rebab program to drop charges

Captbluefin said:
Like it or not. This is not how “ big time” programs handle situations like this.

It comes down to win or be morally correct. Pic one or the other ya can’t have both.

It’s sad but true. I believe in doing the right thing. But I also will not complain when Book is behind schedule all year and we get home from Charleston behind as a team.

Many of the people who preach about how this should be handled will be the first complaining in March.
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Sadly, we haven't been doing things big time around here since Lew Perkins left.

Heard he may be back for Florida but if they drag this out into December we'll be digging our own grave.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
i think most people here are missing the most important aspect of this story
A kid with iffy driving experience, who possibly was drinking took a car out for a ride..whether Is was with permission or not is irrelevant to my point.
An automobile under any circumstances has the ability to be lethal, these conditions simply increased the likelihood of accident,
He is very fortunate that physical harm to himself or someone else did not occur
This good fortune is the lesson he should take away from this episode Weather he sits 2-3 or even six games that will soon be forgotten and is really unimportant to the potential permanent harm he could have inflicted on himself or others.
If he doesn’t understand his good fortune than the likelihood of repeating increase drastically.
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C'mon hes 19 and in college and made a bad mistake and is paying for it. I seen and did worse in college. I didn't need the morality police coming around telling "cars kill people" and neither does he.
 
superjohn said:
Sadly, we haven't been doing things big time around here since Lew Perkins left.

Heard he may be back for Florida but if they drag this out into December we'll be digging our own grave.
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Well Mwill had to sit out until December for the case of the stolen laptops. From ESPN,

"Williams, 19, a junior point guard granted accelerated
rehabilitation after being charged with four counts of third-degree
larceny, will be allowed to return to the team in December."

I suspect he will be back December 1st for the Maine game if he is granted accelerated program like MWill was.
 
Jesus. Not till December ? Hope this is wrong. Missing the scrimmage, exhibition and first two games isn’t enough? I mean his name was everywhere, he’s gotta deal with the school, the authorities, his family and hurley plus he won’t be able to breathe sideways the rest of his UConn career. -now he’s going to miss all the important November games as well? But he was allowed to be a part of first night? Doesn’t add up. Overdoing it , IMO
 
When I take off my blue and white glasses, I think anything up to and including a full year suspension would be fair given the transgression.

However, I can't see without my glasses, so 1 game should do the trick! :cool:
 
Get a Job said:
When I take off my blue and white glasses, I think anything up to and including a full year suspension would be fair given the transgression.

However, I can't see without my glasses, so 1 game should do the trick! :cool:
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Getting this kid on the court as soon as possible and winning some big games will help the culture as much as disciplining him. Keep his mind on the court, not on the outside stuff.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
Trying to maintain some sort of moral high ground in the cesspool that is college basketball is a sucker's play. Sure way to have a crappy team you can feel good about.
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You're definitely a lawyer.
 
Cuse Socks said:
Getting this kid on the court as soon as possible and winning some big games will help the culture as much as disciplining him. Keep his mind on the court, not on the outside stuff.
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What about keeping his mind on his school work also?
This is the problem with big-time student athletics - For the most part, some athletes and many of the fans seem to look away from the education aspect and only think about wins and losses or how fast they can get into The League.
Yes I'm preaching but it's a peeve of mine and something I stressed for years to all my players who were of college entry age - even if you suffer a career ending injury you still can get an education and most schools won't compromise their scholarships accordingly.
If UConn can't win the "big games" without Bouk or any current Husky then it wasn't meant to be
I do want the kid to come back ASAP but due to the array of offenses, a quick slap on the wrist is not appropriate.
 
methodology said:
Takes longer than month to complete the drug/alchohol classes he most likely is going to have to take as part of applying for AR
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I have no inside info here, but AR usually requires a 10 week long drug and alcohol class.
 
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I just hope Hurley does what he feels is appropriate whether its a 1 game suspension or several. The Jeff Jacobs article recently already tried to to make sure Bouknight wouldn't play in Florida game as if he should have some type of influence on it. Yup, the same writers that will criticize UConn's talent level when they lose will try to make sure the most talented of the players get long suspensions when they mess up.

From my understanding Bouknight doesn't need a long suspension to "learn his lesson." He has already been punished and he feels like crap about what he did. But there are program standards that Hurley takes seriously, as he should, and are part of the culture he has built so Bouknight will obviously miss games because of that. I just don't think Hurley should be pressured by anyone from the outside to be excessive.
 
gtcam said:
This is the problem with big-time student athletics - For the most part, some athletes and many of the fans seem to look away from the education aspect and only think about wins and losses or how fast they can get into The League.
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There is no "education aspect[.]" The only reason the phrase "student athlete" exists is so schools didn't have to pay disability or acknowledge that these are, for all intents and purposes, employees.

Emeka Okafors happen in spite of the model, not because of it.
 
I'd imagine Bouknight has to go through a disciplinary board hearing at UConn. I remember this happening with all the other players who got in trouble on campus. Until that decision comes down I don't think we'll know what his suspension is. I don't think the suspension is just Hurley's call.
 
HooperScooper said:
I'd imagine Bouknight has to go through a disciplinary board hearing at UConn. I remember this happening with all the other players who got in trouble on campus. Until that decision comes down I don't think we'll know what his suspension is. I don't think the suspension is just Hurley's call.
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It’d be some classic UConn to not get out of their own way here
 
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CL82 said:
At all? Sure. Enough? Don't really know, but I trust Hurley to make that call.
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The problem is I don’t believe Hurley is the one making the primary decision here. I could be wrong but it seems the University Administration is handling out the disciplinary action and Hurley kind of has to go along with it. It seems Hurley has already disciplined him.

Back in the day I got caught by UW with honestly a small nugget of marijuana. I was charged with drug possession, fined and had to take classes with instructors telling me how unsafe and dangerous marijuana is.
A few years later, it’s completely legal in Washington.
Not saying what I did was right. But these Public Universities have a tendency to overreact on their punishments and I feel what Bouk will have to go through is similar to what I had to go through and even worse.
Which is why i don’t agree with it.

They act is it these guys can’t learn from their mistakes without beating a dead horse over their heads for months and months. It’s excessive and doesn’t work. I still smoke marijuana legally now and I’m a fully functional adult. Good job UW
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Trying to maintain some sort of moral high ground in the cesspool that is college basketball is a sucker's play. Sure way to have a crappy team you can feel good about.
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100% agree.. Fake classes, hookers, people getting paid. Unknown amount of players getting drunk doing equally stupid things. On so many teams.

Yet we are going to hammer this kid and stunt his growth. And put this team in a bad position by December 1.

This also looks horrible to any recruits considering Uconn.. When they all know how other schools handle this stuff.. Why would they want to deal with the insane consequences that Uconn seems to be handing out ?
 
Keep him out until after the Florida game, the anger he should feel towards himself for missing our biggest game of the year should ensure he's learned his lesson.
 
CL82 said:
Yeah, not disciplining him at all is the surest way to lose a program. Ask Dom Perno.
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Agree to disagree.

Have the kid run until he pukes for several practices, sit him for a game, and move on.

New England administrators and their holier than thou attitude is a bigger threat to the program than James Bouknight’s bender.
 
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UCDaveD said:
Agree to disagree.

Have the kid run until he pukes for several practices, sit him for a game, and move on.

New England administrators and their holier than thou attitude is a bigger threat to the program than James Bouknight’s bender.
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The pole he hit could've been a person, he shouldn't get a pass because he plays for your favorite basketball team.
 
UCDaveD said:
Agree to disagree.

Have the kid run until he pukes for several practices, sit him for a game, and move on.

New England administrators and their holier than thou attitude is a bigger threat to the program than James Bouknight’s bender.
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Exactly. Just old sexually frustrated and self righteous administrators tying another kid to the whipping post and patting their own backs
 
There’s prolly a decent chance the Florida game will remain reasonably close 5-8 pts. And there’s probably a 50/50 chance we will be a bubble team come March- and the fla game cud very well be our make or break game come tourney committee time. So by sitting him for this game on top of what he’s already feeling/dealing with, might be more significant season-wise than we are realizing now in November. But I bet some of us will point to him missing the fla game come tourney time as why we missed out on the tournament- I know I’m being a bit over dramatic but u have to admit, there’s a decent chance I’m accurate in my prediction. Hope he plays., the seasons worth it.
 
methodology said:
Takes longer than month to complete the drug/alchohol classes he most likely is going to have to take as part of applying for AR
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AR does not mandate drug or alcohol classes. A condition may be set where James has to attend a drug or alchohol substance evaluation and if issues are discovered he would then be required to undergo the recommended treatment (not likely for a kid his age but who knows).

AEP - alchohol education program and DEP (drug) require roughly a dozen classes to be completed sequentially and would push the Court dates and potentially suspension out. The delay in between these dates for AR is so that probabtion can screen his application for any issues, including prior use of the program in the last ten years. Also they may require that victims (state for the sign and owner of the car potentially?) recieve written notice of their right to object well in advance of the disposition hearing.
 
Captbluefin said:
Like it or not. This is not how “ big time” programs handle situations like this.

It comes down to win or be morally correct. Pic one or the other ya can’t have both.

It’s sad but true. I believe in doing the right thing. But I also will not complain when Book is behind schedule all year and we get home from Charleston behind as a team.

Many of the people who preach about how this should be handled will be the first complaining in March.
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Big time programs will lecture the kid in public, suspend him for a game, then circle the wagons and get onto business.

Small time AD acts small time, news at 11.
 
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