Borges: Gilbert (back) gametime decision tomorrow, Wilson status unclear.

[husky429]

You don’t kill a 3.0 kid. You might put him at the end of the pine. But, not enough hustle doesn’t warrant suspension. Got to me more than meets the eye.

How hard is this to get: he isn't suspended for academics. Should he not be suspended if he kills someone because he has a 3.0 now?

 

[BlueMAB]

This is a quandary. On the one hand, you have to enforce discipline. On the other, you don’t want to undermine those who are competing to win.

Not really. The coach isn't undermining anyone. He has to set a standard and hold players accountable. Sid let his teammates down. If the right culture is being put in place his brothers will hold him accountable. He will hold himself accountable, and the team program will be better for it in the long run.

 

[Slick]

Yeah -- no. It's Hurley's job to try to win. Playings games with not enough players because someone hasn't earned playing time is self-defeating. You have to field the best team you can.

Unfortunately I think there may be more to Sidney not playing.

 

[87Xfer]

Sharon won that strength and conditioning thread.

What, the one about those balls?

 

[Hamms30]

If Sid is suspended with merit, you don't dress him. It pisses on every other player that held their end of the bargain and completely undermines the work and effort the team has put forth all year. It also sends the message that the Coach's word isn't worth anything and he'll back track when the going gets tough. If he's suspended for something less serious, then you give him the opportunity to earn his role back like anybody else would have to.

 

[Stinger92860]

Out of curiosity, if players foul out during a game resulting in less than 5 guys available, is that an automatic forfeit? (I realize you'd have no chance of winning with less than 5 players, but wondering what the rules are...and has that ever happened?)

Never mind, I answered my own question (see post below)

I was once on the short end of 4 on 5. You play your arse off.

 

[87Xfer]

If Sid is suspended with merit, you don't dress him. It pisses on every other player that held their end of the bargain and completely undermines the work and effort the team has put forth all year. It also sends the message that the Coach's word isn't worth anything and he'll back track when the going gets tough. If he's suspended for something less serious, then you give him the opportunity to earn his role back like anybody else would have to.

And based on what Hurley said in the interview video posted today, it sounds to me like that's what he's doing.

 

[The Viking]

I can't believe anyone is questioning Hurley's decision making. The guy is a hell of a coach and he was raised by an all-time great. Oh, and he knows more about what is going on with Wilson than any of us.

It's one thing to hope Wilson gets his act together in time to play tomorrow, it's another to say the coach is wrong if he doesn't play him.

 

[Hoophound]

I’m not really sure what people are so excited about other than the person that said Hurley “hasn’t won anything yet”, that was over the top. My opinion is my own selfish opinion and I don’t claim to know what Sid did or anything else about the situation. However, assuming Sid has been lazy and nothing more serious, I’d suit him up due to the circumstances we face with our roster.

For those that think they are so smart or say “we can tell who hasn’t coached before”, that’s nonsense. I played a college sport at a pretty high level and I played 3 high school sports. I had coaches that were pleasant but firm and I had a coach that modeled himself after Bob Knight. Honestly, it didn’t make a difference. Kids either buy in or they don’t. Still, with limited roster spots and a 4* guy available, you have to think hard about what to do. If we were at full strength, I’d let Sid suffer, but we aren’t. Suiting him up doesn’t necessarily send any message at all other than “Sid is only playing because we don’t have enough guys to compete without him”. That is not a ringing endorsement nor does it encourage anyone else to be lazy. I’m sure Dan is going to consider it more seriously than some of you think. He wants to win too. Desperate times.

 

[HuskylnSC]

Yeah -- no. It's Hurley's job to try to win. Playings games with not enough players because someone hasn't earned playing time is self-defeating. You have to field the best team you can.

Well it's easy to see that building character and integrity are definitely on the back burner in some quarters. May I take a moment to quote Grantland Rice who wrote, “For when the great scorer comes to write against your name, He marks not that you won or lost but how you played the game.”

 

[8893]

This is 100% the coach’s call. Whatever he decides, I am good with it. I trust that he knows way more about the situation and his team than the collective wisdom here. This is why he was hired.

“My team is on the floor.”

 

[HuskylnSC]

Yeah -- no. It's Hurley's job to try to win. Playings games with not enough players because someone hasn't earned playing time is self-defeating. You have to field the best team you can.

Hurley will TRY to win with 5 players or 4 players. He's absolutely correct. If you want to support a team that will do anything to win there are plenty of sleazeball coaches out there, perhaps you would be happier supporting a team from the central or southwestern portions of our fair land.

 

[BlueDogs]

How hard is this to get: he isn't suspended for academics. Should he not be suspended if he kills someone because he has a 3.0 now?

You don’t read well. What I said is we must therefore conclude Hurley has something more problematic than mere non-hustle.

 

[bigknight3]

“My team is on the floor.”

 

[Jbirdp5]

A coach can not change the criteria for the suspension based on other events. You have your criteria and you stick to it. Your doing your whole program a disservice when you go back on your morals. Shocking so many people want the circumstances to change the grounds of a suspension. The exception becomes the rule when that happens and it leads to trouble.

 

[uconnfan68]

Someone needs a refresher course in what his job is:

Since we don’t know what the dynamics were, I’m willing to let Dan Hurley live with his decision, whichever it is.

 

[JB75]

I understand trying to build a culture. But you also need to build a winning culture. I don’t know what Sid did; none of us do. But if it was not a culture wrecking incident, he needs to play. Winning against Houston on senior night and getting momentum going into the tournament will build a winning culture more quickly than sitting a pouting player, again not knowing what he did.

U guys make it sound like if Sid plays , our chances of winning greatly increase. He’s been a non factor most of the year. He’s just a warm body as of now. Hurley trying to send a message and build our culture. Now if he was sitting bouk or Vital- I’d be pissed at him. Lol

 

[HuskyHawk]

U guys make it sound like if Sid plays , our chances of winning greatly increase. He’s been a non factor most of the year. He’s just a warm body as of now. Hurley trying to send a message and build our culture. Now if he was sitting bouk or Vital- I’d be pissed at him. Lol

Sid has been very good at times. If you have six players, then you are simply unable to defend normally. So Sid would let the other guys play as they can. That’s what it is all about.

 

[JB75]

Sid has been very good at times. If you have six players, then you are simply unable to defend normally. So Sid would let the other guys play as they can. That’s what it is all about.

I understand the angle of letting Sid play so guys like cv and Ag can have a chance to get a W but Sid hasn’t done much this year. I mean seriously, will he really produce that much more than Temi wud? Maybe he snatches a rebound high off the glass or drains one 3, but the ONLY reason it’s a big deal is because we’re down to 7 players. Sids had about 50 chances the past three years and I’m usually a softy on these kind of things- but to me Enough is enough. With that being said course I hope he plays but only for 1 factor- we are super undermanned.

 

[LIuconn]

will he really produce that much more than Temi wud?

100% yes

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Sid can fill in at the 3 ,4 ,or 5 if desperate. Just allowing someone to sit fo 5 minutes is a contribution.
But in addition to just being another body ,he can also rebound and block shots.
I don’t know what he did but we certainly could use him.

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

It is a very spellbinding situation with so many fluid competing dynamics considering the nature and potential consequences of various actions as it relates to Sid.

 

[87Xfer]

Suiting him up doesn’t necessarily send any message at all other than “Sid is only playing because we don’t have enough guys to compete without him”. That is not a ringing endorsement nor does it encourage anyone else to be lazy. I’m sure Dan is going to consider it more seriously than some of you think. He wants to win too. Desperate times.

I respectfully disagree, and it's absolutely contradictory to what Dan Hurley said clearly today. It totally depends on what got him suspended in the first place, and on the coach's take. But you were a baller, so what do i know.

 

[auror]

U guys make it sound like if Sid plays , our chances of winning greatly increase. He’s been a non factor most of the year. He’s just a warm body as of now. Hurley trying to send a message and build our culture. Now if he was sitting bouk or Vital- I’d be pissed at him. Lol

We had 3 guys foul out last time we played them and might have 6 scholarship players and only 1 walk-on this time. Hell a walk on TOOK THE LAST SHOT the last time we played them! If the same fouling result happened or we had an injury or whatever, there's a chance we'd have to play 3 or 4 vs. 5 on CV's senior night.

I don't know what Sid has done. If it is especially egregious that would ruin the culture by playing him, then sure, Hurley should not play him.

If you can use the circumstances as a motivating factor and spin it and let the team vote or something and let Sid dress (and play regularly or in emergencies as dictated by his conduct), then just do that. Let Sid earn the UConn uni by his peers decree. This "my team is on the floor" stuff is ridiculous and dramatic and idiotic. You all want to be hardo coaches from the 70's and 80's so bad. If you're building a culture 365, it can survive a guy coming in the game when you're down to 4 guys in a game and he has to play. You might even get a different sports movie moment out of it.

 

[husky429]

We had 3 guys foul out last time we played them and might have 6 scholarship players and only 1 walk-on this time. Hell a walk on TOOK THE LAST SHOT the last time we played them! If the same fouling result happened or we had an injury or whatever, there's a chance we'd have to play 3 or 4 vs. 5 on CV's senior night.

I don't know what Sid has done. If it is especially egregious that would ruin the culture by playing him, then sure, Hurley should not play him.

If you can use the circumstances as a motivating factor and spin it and let the team vote or something and let Sid dress (and play regularly or in emergencies as dictated by his conduct), then just do that. Let Sid earn the UConn uni by his peers decree. This "my team is on the floor" stuff is ridiculous and dramatic and idiotic. You all want to be hardo coaches from the 70's and 80's so bad. If you're building a culture 365, it can survive a guy coming in the game when you're down to 4 guys in a game and he has to play. You might even get a different sports movie moment out of it.

Again. This is a ridiculous assessment considering WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SID DID. Trust that Hurley knows what happened and is making the right decision.

 

[AdamaNation]

I understand trying to build a culture. But you also need to build a winning culture. I don’t know what Sid did; none of us do. But if it was not a culture wrecking incident, he needs to play. Winning against Houston on senior night and getting momentum going into the tournament will build a winning culture more quickly than sitting a pouting player, again not knowing what he did.

I agree that we will remember this win at this time with this ranked team with this small roster. The positives outweigh the learning of lessons. Suit him up and let him see what he’s missing next year if he can’t commit.

 

[auror]

Again. This is a ridiculous assessment considering WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SID DID. Trust that Hurley knows what happened and is making the right decision.

That's why I said:

I don't know what Sid has done. If it is especially egregious that would ruin the culture by playing him, then sure, Hurley should not play him.

 

[husky429]

That's why I said:

I responded to the wrong post. My bad lol

 

[87Xfer]

We had 3 guys foul out last time we played them and might have 6 scholarship players and only 1 walk-on this time. Hell a walk on TOOK THE LAST SHOT the last time we played them! If the same fouling result happened or we had an injury or whatever, there's a chance we'd have to play 3 or 4 vs. 5 on CV's senior night.

I don't know what Sid has done. If it is especially egregious that would ruin the culture by playing him, then sure, Hurley should not play him.

If you can use the circumstances as a motivating factor and spin it and let the team vote or something and let Sid dress (and play regularly or in emergencies as dictated by his conduct), then just do that. Let Sid earn the UConn uni by his peers decree. This "my team is on the floor" stuff is ridiculous and dramatic and idiotic. You all want to be hardo coaches from the 70's and 80's so bad. If you're building a culture 365, it can survive a guy coming in the game when you're down to 4 guys in a game and he has to play. You might even get a different sports movie moment out of it.

Based on my relatively short time here, I respect your insight and what you're saying. But if Hurley is dedicated to building a program culture, which he absolutely seems to be, and Sid's behavior justified the suspension (which i have to believe Hurley has reason for), what should he do? Cave on that whole culture / discipline / earn the right to wear the uniform thing for the sake of winning this particular game?

I understand it's senior night. But realistically, it may mean a difference in the AAC tourney seeding, but odds are it won't even mean that. The way the core 7 guys have been playing, I'd rather see them go into the Houston game fighting short-handed, with a chip on their shoulders, but without the potential "weak link" and see what happens.

Anyway, it seems like Sid can possibly work his way back into the game, since Hurley said today that he's back in practice. I'm guessing he'll actually play tomorrow but if not, i have faith that Hurley makes the right call for the program.

 

[husky8273]

Shot a man in Reno. Just to watch him die.

smh