Boosters can technically pay athletes as of July 1

[HuskyHawk]

It's only a matter of time when an nba team will draft a high school kid, pay for college to develop players. Will certain colleges become farm teams affiliated with an nba team?


This is going to totally screw up college sports.

That happens in Hockey now more or less. Baseball players can be drafted and keep playing as well. I'm not sure that's bad. Imagine Bouk gets drafted, and the team thinks another year at UConn would benefit him more.

 

[bmayuc]

That happens in Hockey now more or less. Baseball players can be drafted and keep playing as well. I'm not sure that's bad. Imagine Bouk gets drafted, and the team thinks another year at UConn would benefit him more.

This is why all this hyperventilating is kinda insane. People are scared of losing college basketball as they know it (which is incredibly exploitative to the players)

But it is just as likely this improves the competitive balance, spreads out talent and makes a MORE compelling tournament/season than it gets worse.

Its the not knowing that is making them all a bunch of chicken littles. Let it play out - there is a lot of money on the line for everyone to figure out a system.

The real problem is the NCAAs complete inability to sheperd this transition gracefully because they are so invested in the exploitative system, and rather leaving it to a chaotic unregulated mess that implements in like 2 weeks.

 

[bmayuc]

One final thought now that you are seeing players start to sign deals - this could INCREASE the amount of time players stay in college, lowering the constant turnover, and increasing both the quality of players in college and the cohesiveness of teams. Currently, the main incentive to go "pro" was the payday. Its an enormous cliff. How many of us said it about Bouk. "If you are a 1st rounder you gotta go." Its because of the all/nothing cliff economics. You gotta take the payday. Some/much of that may be mitigated by the fact that some really high level college players at big marketable brands (UConn, hello) may have higher or equivalent earning potential - or at least more guaranteed income - in college.

For instance, a guy who's a bubble first rounder but an all-conference sophomore at UConn may have 3 years left of solid NIL $$ plus the college lifestyle he is enjoying... vs maybe a non-guaranteed NBA/overseas contract and the possibility he flames out and being a bench NBA guy may have much lower earning potential on social than a bigtime college athlete.

There's alot you disaster theorists haven't quite thought thru with this. That's my point.

 

[Guapo]

Awesome, thanks for posting this! Amazing to re-watch, at the time I thought it was a death blow (as exposure of same ruse later was to his marriage) and Don would be fired, humiliated and it'd be about him rebuilding. Not quite, yes it was a show about people, relationships and the world, but thru the lens of advertising where perception is reality.

Bert's speech then about the man in the room means college sports is what it currently is. Don's facade and the amateur facade will endure b/c we want it to, it makes everyone happy and makes money. We actually get to keep pretending as long as that's profitable. Just don't tell our wives!

Indeed. Couldn’t have said it better myself

 

[Guapo]

One final thought now that you are seeing players start to sign deals - this could INCREASE the amount of time players stay in college, lowering the constant turnover, and increasing both the quality of players in college and the cohesiveness of teams. Currently, the main incentive to go "pro" was the payday. Its an enormous cliff. How many of us said it about Bouk. "If you are a 1st rounder you gotta go." Its because of the all/nothing cliff economics. You gotta take the payday. Some/much of that may be mitigated by the fact that some really high level college players at big marketable brands (UConn, hello) may have higher or equivalent earning potential - or at least more guaranteed income - in college.

For instance, a guy who's a bubble first rounder but an all-conference sophomore at UConn may have 3 years left of solid NIL $$ plus the college lifestyle he is enjoying... vs maybe a non-guaranteed NBA/overseas contract and the possibility he flames out and being a bench NBA guy may have much lower earning potential on social than a bigtime college athlete.

There's alot you disaster theorists haven't quite thought thru with this. That's my point.

Get some hot sauce sponsorships pronto

 

[Chin Diesel]

It's only a matter of time when an nba team will draft a high school kid, pay for college to develop players. Will certain colleges become farm teams affiliated with an nba team?


This is going to totally screw up college sports.

That's not necessarily a bad thing. Alleviates the strain on universities to pay the athletes and kills the bag men and agents.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Can’t wait to see a 17 year old kid with no financial planning skills burn thru $30k a year.

This will be a disaster.

there are 50 year old's making 10 times that much that burn through it too.

The threat of poor use of the money should be separate from deserving the compensation in the first place.

Maybe an opportunity for school's to set aside some of the money for 401k or IRA's and provide matching funds.

 

[Pawsox]

Congrats to the daughter of my catcher in college and the minor leagues. Mychael O'Berry is the first golfer to sign with Barstool Sports. She is a senior on the women's team at Auburn.

 

[Guapo]

there are 50 year old's making 10 times that much that burn through it too.

The threat of poor use of the money should be separate from deserving the compensation in the first place.

Maybe an opportunity for school's to set aside some of the money for 401k or IRA's and provide matching funds.

Schools, including UConn, are also setting up staffs (or outsourcing the job to law firms) to help kids navigate these waters. I assume money management, taxes etc are wrapped up in that.

I also knew plenty of kids in college that had plenty of money thanks to their parents. If those of you inferring that athletes won’t be able to handle it because of their backgrounds...well, y’all are big ole (jerk)holes

 

[Rico444]

I know players can't market themselves in uniform or using the school name, but if they get the school's permission (so basically, if the school gets a cut) would they then be able to make a commercial in uniform? Or is that an NCAA rule?

 

[Guapo]

I know players can't market themselves in uniform or using the school name, but if they get the school's permission (so basically, if the school gets a cut) would they then be able to make a commercial in uniform? Or is that an NCAA rule?

I think* this is like the one rule in all of this lol

Basically it seems the kids can get paid by anyone for anything, except by the schools themselves

 

[Rico444]

I think* this is like the one rule in all of this lol

Basically it seems the kids can get paid by anyone for anything, except by the schools themselves

Well I'm not asking if the schools can pay the kids, but if Joe's car dealership can pay 'player A' to film a commercial, and ALSO pay UConn so 'player A' can wear the jersey and say "I'm player A, basketball player at UConn."

 

[Psolo12]

Can’t wait to see a 17 year old kid with no financial planning skills burn thru $30k a year.

This will be a disaster.

Why can't you wait to see this? Sounds like you live a pretty sad life is this is what you enjoy.

 

[Guapo]

Well I'm not asking if the schools can pay the kids, but if Joe's car dealership can pay 'player A' to film a commercial, and ALSO pay UConn so 'player A' can wear the jersey and say "I'm player A, basketball player at UConn."

Right, no. I don’t think* the kids would be allowed to use UConn in any real way

 

[CTBasketball]

there are 50 year old's making 10 times that much that burn through it too.

The threat of poor use of the money should be separate from deserving the compensation in the first place.

Maybe an opportunity for school's to set aside some of the money for 401k or IRA's and provide matching funds.

Why can't you wait to see this? Sounds like you live a pretty sad life is this is what you enjoy.

I was being facetious. The college they attend should enroll them in personal financial courses.

 

[Psolo12]

I was being facetious. The college they attend should enroll them in personal financial courses.

Agreed, honestly those classes should be mandatory in high school. Instead I was forced to take Calculus which has helped me with absolutely nothing since I took it.

 

[Guapo]

Agreed, honestly those classes should be mandatory in high school. Instead I was forced to take Calculus which has helped me with absolutely nothing since I took it.

 

[mustafa]

Oregon Coach Kelly Graves could have made some money back in college. See video when he was a player at New Mexico

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Them is some Corny commercials. I chuckled.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I was being facetious. The college they attend should enroll them in personal financial courses.

Agreed, honestly those classes should be mandatory in high school. Instead I was forced to take Calculus which has helped me with absolutely nothing since I took it.

One. I don't think taking a personal finance class actually makes you smart enough to manage larger amounts of money. Get a pro.

Two. My kids' HS started mandating personal finance. For my oldest kid it was just a requirement before they graduated. For my younger one, it was required by end of sophomore year which is when most kids become old enough to get their first job.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Schools, including UConn, are also setting up staffs (or outsourcing the job to law firms) to help kids navigate these waters. I assume money management, taxes etc are wrapped up in that.

I also knew plenty of kids in college that had plenty of money thanks to their parents. If those of you inferring that athletes won’t be able to handle it because of their backgrounds...well, y’all are big ole (jerk)holes

Reality is many kids playing D1 basketball do come from disadvantaged homes and financial acuity isn't necessarily taught or demonstrated at home. If that makes me a big ole' jerkhole, so be it.

What that has to do with trust fund kids also being irresponsible with money, IDK. Also saw plenty of middle class kids with stable homes who ran up some crazy credit card bills.

So, rather than having some sort of prerequisite, you give all of the players the same training/advice/services and then let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Guapo]

Reality is many kids playing D1 basketball do come from disadvantaged homes and financial acuity isn't necessarily taught or demonstrated at home. If that makes me a big ole' jerkhole, so be it.

What that has to do with trust fund kids also being irresponsible with money, IDK. Also saw plenty of middle class kids with stable homes who ran up some crazy credit card bills.

So, rather than having some sort of prerequisite, you give all of the players the same training/advice/services and then let the chips fall where they may.

Lol I don’t think I was directly responding to you...

 

[Chin Diesel]

Lol I don’t think I was directly responding to you...

Sure seemed like you were.

 

[polycom]

Can’t wait to see a 17 year old kid with no financial planning skills burn thru $30k a year.

This will be a disaster.

kids on tik tok are doing fine this will be so fun to watch. College sports will turn into the nba where fans don’t care about the games they care about the storylines

 

[Guapo]

Sure seemed like you were.




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The first part was. The second part was more a general response to the concern trolling we’ve seen here and other places “hurr durr I hope these kids know they have to pay TAXES”

 

[Guapo]

kids on tik tok are doing fine this will be so fun to watch. College sports will turn into the nba where fans don’t care about the games they care about the storylines

I would argue college sports has always been just as much as about what happen off the field/court as what happens on it. So this will just add another layer. It’ll be fun and fine.

 

[auror]

One final thought now that you are seeing players start to sign deals - this could INCREASE the amount of time players stay in college, lowering the constant turnover, and increasing both the quality of players in college and the cohesiveness of teams. Currently, the main incentive to go "pro" was the payday. Its an enormous cliff. How many of us said it about Bouk. "If you are a 1st rounder you gotta go." Its because of the all/nothing cliff economics. You gotta take the payday. Some/much of that may be mitigated by the fact that some really high level college players at big marketable brands (UConn, hello) may have higher or equivalent earning potential - or at least more guaranteed income - in college.

For instance, a guy who's a bubble first rounder but an all-conference sophomore at UConn may have 3 years left of solid NIL $$ plus the college lifestyle he is enjoying... vs maybe a non-guaranteed NBA/overseas contract and the possibility he flames out and being a bench NBA guy may have much lower earning potential on social than a bigtime college athlete.

There's alot you disaster theorists haven't quite thought thru with this. That's my point.

Bingo. The Carsen Edwards, Tremont Waters, etc. of the world are much, much more likely to play out their 4 years now.

 

[CL82]

One final thought now that you are seeing players start to sign deals - this could INCREASE the amount of time players stay in college, lowering the constant turnover, and increasing both the quality of players in college and the cohesiveness of teams. Currently, the main incentive to go "pro" was the payday. Its an enormous cliff. How many of us said it about Bouk. "If you are a 1st rounder you gotta go." Its because of the all/nothing cliff economics. You gotta take the payday. Some/much of that may be mitigated by the fact that some really high level college players at big marketable brands (UConn, hello) may have higher or equivalent earning potential - or at least more guaranteed income - in college.

For instance, a guy who's a bubble first rounder but an all-conference sophomore at UConn may have 3 years left of solid NIL $$ plus the college lifestyle he is enjoying... vs maybe a non-guaranteed NBA/overseas contract and the possibility he flames out and being a bench NBA guy may have much lower earning potential on social than a bigtime college athlete.

There's alot you disaster theorists haven't quite thought thru with this. That's my point.

It seems to that there is an implicit assumption that NIL money will disappear after a kid leave college or that NIL rights are the something accorded to a college athletes only. When a kid leaves college to go pro, their followers don't evaporate. They keep their NIL money plus earn a pro salary.

 

[GemParty]

Looks like Buddy Buckets has his own shirt with the Cuse logo. They love making shirts at that school. I’m guessing schools will adjust their rules as they see fit.

 

[Watchdog]

If this is how you think it works sure. I'll listen to my friends who play high major D-1 who explained how recruiting works.

Please share what your friends have to say.

 

[Dogdeacon]

Looks like Buddy Buckets has his own shirt with the Cuse logo. They love making shirts at that school. I’m guessing schools will adjust their rules as they see fit.

Every enterprising kid should make a shirt and find a local sponsorship. Just listened to Titus & Tate talking about how Mark Titus sold shirts while at Ohio St but had to give all the profits to charity while in school. He still had inventory and sold post-grad, so he split the $ with the charity.

I think this could be fun like the 70s 80s era bad commercials featuring local pro athletes. People are over-focused on the future pros who are going to make millions regardless and don't understand the life bettering difference this makes for the kids on the fringe. Now their UConn experience is worth something while they are there and when they graduate. I think UConn fans would love to retroactively pay the Ricky Moores and Rash Jones of the program, going forward they get a slice of the Polley Pie. Personally, I can't wait to get my UConn freshman shirt. I will wear this while eating my RJ Cole-Slaw from the Storrs Price Chopper.