Big East Transfer Portal Thread v II
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Must be this Summer's addition to the "screwed over" list, but glad to see he was able to find a team........and so quickly.
Does WVU have any fifth year guys who may want more PT? I hear the Vols have some available.
Best three team deal of the summer?
So if you help people it is ok to hurt some along the way? I wonder what Mrs Pitino thinks.
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The additions that Pitino made after the early commitment from Alleyne are ridiculous. I mean he needed players but the minutes he expected when he signed originally are now way down. I feel real bad for him!
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The grass ain't always greener and the water doesn't always taste sweeter on the other side. I feel he got bad advice at joining Pitino - he is known to not really care about his players, only the outcome.
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Looks to be a big pickup for Xavier.
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Mrs. Pitino is still with him, they've been married for nearly 50 years. That's between them, I'm not the morality police.
Uh, that is not true at all. All his former players love him. Slazinski thanked Pitino a few days ago for being honest with him the whole time on Instagram. In addition, Pitino had to fill an entire roster. If it were UConn recruiting good players even later in the year, not a single fan on these boards would be virtue signaling about anybody on the team getting recruited over. Uconn signed 4 guard/wings this year. Isn’t that recruiting over Alleyne too?
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How is that even possible? Assuming he’s a grad transfer, but can they just transfer as often as they want?
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Virtue singling is not something we have to do here. It does follow Pitino everywhere he goes. I will say "the dude can coach"- but lets not kid ourselves about who we are talking about.
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I'm not sure this is an apples to apples comparison.
We recruited Alleyne to be a component in a program looking to move from consistent to few on their conference/NCAA tournament participant to a team that could make a run at the title (a run which they completed).
I can only imagine that Alleyne was recruited to St John's with the promise of starting and considerable minutes (really, why the hell else would someone with his track record go there?).
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You're not promised anything at this level of basketball. Alleyne has jumped around which is his decision, it worked out well for him transferring to UConn and he wanted a new opportunity. He'll be fighting for playing time at St. John's just like he did at UConn and Virginia Tech.
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Allenyne is an amazing addition to your rotation. We will miss him.
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There are ton of former Lville players who cannot stand the man so it is true. And he has a history of being terribly narcissistic. He also struck out as an NBA coach and was an absolute embarrassment in Boston. His players simply did not respond well to his style.
I don’t remember commenting on his recruiting at St John’s. I questioned Alleyne and any advice he received in joining Ricky in NYC
Which Louisville players can’t stand him specifically? Quotes please? He has a history of being narcissistic? So was Calhoun, that’s not a crime. He was not a failure at the knicks but did openly say he was not cut out to be a GM-type role at Boston and admitted it. Doesn’t make him failed but he admitted he shouldn’t have taken the role he did and it didn’t work out. You questioned Alleyne’s advice, but I’m not sure why? He has competition at both places, but it’s a personal decision.
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You can imagine but that’s not the case. All of Pitino’s current and former players will tell you that he promises zero when being recruited. Kids play for Pitino because of his pedigree, but he does not promise kids anything. It’s pretty well-known.
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The term "virtue signaling" got invented by people who didn't want to be questioned. It was created in order to aid in defending things that are questionable by putting down the questioners. It sounds better than saying you don't have a problem with what somebody's doing because it creates the appearance that you can avoid taking responsibility if you can just make somebody else look bad. Of course, if you take a closer look, it's pretty clear to see that you're slurring virtue. There's no sleight of hand that can uncouple it.
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I don't really have a problem with Alleyne getting recruited over because, even though it sucks, that's the nature of competing at this level. There was a time last year when his minutes were dropping here too but he started making his shots.
I definitely do have a problem with teams adding extra players on NIL deals that allow them to skirt the scholarship rules. Programs with aggressive boosters and alumni already have a huge advantage, they don't need to be able to horde talent and further dilute the talent pool for the rest of the country. Credit to Pitino for landing some really talented guys, but it just seems like a house of cards to me
I definitely do have a problem with teams adding extra players on NIL deals that allow them to skirt the scholarship rules. Programs with aggressive boosters and alumni already have a huge advantage, they don't need to be able to horde talent and further dilute the talent pool for the rest of the country. Credit to Pitino for landing some really talented guys, but it just seems like a house of cards to me
Very different situation and you know this. This isn't even apples and oranges.
About SJU,
I personally don't really care because SJU players apparently know the deal. As you said, Slazinski signed with SJU in the spring knowing Pitino was going to try and replace him as early as two months later. Gamble on his part that apparently didn't work out.
I wouldn't even blame Pitino if the players didn't know. Again, like you said, he had to fill a full roster (almost) and early on he was taking who he could. It just so happened better players became available and he continued to go after them with NIL past the 13 man scholarship limit. Obviously the players coming in at 14 and 15 weren't scared of 1-13 at their position. Pitino is old and has limited time, he was always going to try and build as strong a roster as possible. The only players that could conceivably complain would be the underclassmen who transferred to SJU, and only if they were lied to by Pitino. The fifth year guys could always bolt if they aren't happy.
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Xavier, with their incoming class and transfers also, a solid core from last year, will be the team to beat this year in the BIG EAST. Top three for sure. Miller has quickly brought that program to a higher level.
And this is great for the BIG EAST.
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the team to beat will be the defending national champions
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Yeah, Akok Akok hasn't announced anything publicly and the Georgetown 2023-24 roster is not officially announced on their website, so there's still mystery on if he will return for his extra year of eligibility or simply move on from college sports.
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Been a weird WVU rumor floating. Unsure if it’s fan base driven or real smoke
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It could be as simple as a player maximizing his NIL with his last year of eligibility.
Who knows how long players are able to get the bags they are getting this offseason, so since he's got his ring, nothing wrong with maxing out your cash when there is so much uncertainty with players and pro careers.
Plus, who knows what other variables are in play? Perhaps Hurley couldn't promise a similar role w/ two top-40 guards in coming in...honestly, how much PT would Allene get with a starting backcourt of Newton/Spencer/Castle, plus Ball/Diarra off the bench?
Bottom line, there's no validity in saying there was "a promise of starting" as a plausible situation.
This is a non issue because you barely have pt for a regular roster. Any guys at the end of bench will leave. Everyone wants pt, good luck hording talent
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Here's a question. Would Hurley have gone into the portal to get Spencer if Alleyne had stayed? You could make the case for yes and no.
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