Big East Films

[MDHuskFan]

I have no idea if it's true, but to allow people to comment on it like it's a fact while admitting they actually don't know, is pretty poor form.

Only way we’d know is if he admitted it (not going to happen) or if someone else involved breaks an NDA (also not going to happen) there have been lots of confirmations to this. Too many to believe they’ve all been uninformed. Some by insiders behind paywalls

 

[superjohn]

I have no idea if it's true, but to allow people to comment on it like it's a fact while admitting they actually don't know, is pretty poor form.

It's common knowledge. It's all unseemly but I don't know how you tell the Ed Cooley story and why he left without giving the reason why he left.

That's one of the reasons why I think the Big East Films story on the Providence basketball program shouldn't be all about Ed Cooley.

What even is this Big East Films thing on each program? I highly doubt the Big East is producing this.

 

[OkaForPrez]

I thought it was pretty compelling but it went about 20 min too long when it got into the infidelity stuff..which I thought was kind of BS too. You can crush the guy for a lot in the doc but having some 19 year old stufent and some chain wearing greaseball comment on Colleys marriage? Come on now.

I actually haven’t finished it yet, so that’s disappointing to hear.

 

[auror]

If you're going to put rumors like that in the doc, you have to do some journalism or have an actual journalist interviewed willing to state something definitive. You can't just flash some random tweets by random people and then have a random guy saying "oh yeah it's all over town."

 

[superjohn]

If you're going to put rumors like that in the doc, you have to do some journalism or have an actual journalist interviewed willing to state something definitive. You can't just flash some random tweets by random people and then have a random guy saying "oh yeah it's all over town."

Why? This is some rinky dink production. This isn't the Washington Post and Deep Throat.

 

[CL82]

Surprised you haven’t deleted this yet

a) I can't we don't have unlimited editing on this board.
b) I find this guy's over the top commentary on Cooley funny. If it is anyway offensive to you to see this guy's quotes on this board, I won't be offended if you avert your eyes.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

It's common knowledge. It's all unseemly but I don't know how you tell the Ed Cooley story and why he left without giving the reason why he left.

That's one of the reasons why I think the Big East Films story on the Providence basketball program shouldn't be all about Ed Cooley.

What even is this Big East Films thing on each program? I highly doubt the Big East is producing this.

"Common knowledge" that's a pretty bold claim and nobody as far as I know has gone on record and officially said that. I mean the doc featured Twitter screen shots and the guy being interviewed was "it was on SCOUT message board!".

After watching it, I wouldn't be surprised if the Big East issues a cease and desist to have them remove the name and logo from their page and giving Fanta a spanking for allowing himself to be a part of it.

I actually haven’t finished it yet, so that’s disappointing to hear.

Would definitely be interested in your opinion after finishing. Post back if you can.

 

[CL82]

If you're going to put rumors like that in the doc, you have to do some journalism or have an actual journalist interviewed willing to state something definitive. You can't just flash some random tweets by random people and then have a random guy saying "oh yeah it's all over town."

The notion of reporters actually verifying the things they put into print seems to be an anachronism these days. That said, It surprised me as well, I initially thought they were a part of the big east and I was surprised that they would essentially kneecap Cooley, given that he is still a coach in the league. That said, the sections that I watched seemed to be careful to distinguish between fact and rumor. No one came right out and said that the Cooley affair was a fact but they all said that they had heard the rumor. That's a thin and dangerous line to tread, I would think, but it felt to me like somebody was deliberately treading it.

 

[superjohn]

"Common knowledge" that's a pretty bold claim and nobody as far as I know has gone on record and officially said that. I mean the doc featured Twitter screen shots and the guy being interviewed was "it was on SCOUT message board!".

After watching it, I wouldn't be surprised if the Big East issues a cease and desist to have them remove the name and logo from their page and giving Fanta a spanking for allowing himself to be a part of it.



Would definitely be interested in your opinion after finishing. Post back if you can.

I have no idea what Big East Films is. This was a cr@ppy production that looked like something we could've made back in AV class. I have trouble believing The Big East Conference or Fox Sports has anything to do with this.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I have no idea what Big East Films is. This was a cr@ppy production that looked like something we could've made back in AV class. I have trouble believing The Big East Conference or Fox Sports has anything to do with this.

0.00% chance it's affiliated with the BE.

 

[CL82]

0.00% chance it's affiliated with the BE.

And yet they have yet to publicly disavow it. Makes me wonder if it's hit the radar yet.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

And yet they have yet to publicly disavow it. Makes me wonder if it's hit the radar yet.

Possibly they are unaware or hoping it just flies under the radar. 10k views thus far on YouTube.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

0.00% chance it's affiliated with the BE.

I'm not sure whether I'm more impressed or amazed that anybody here thinks that this is anything other than a combination of a sustained put-on and a jilted lover's poison pen.

People more often than not aren't at their most emotionally mature best when they get dumped. And few people harness their hurt & fury to sustain telling their story. Here the style is so familiar that many here are criticizing it as though it's real while at the same time saying (more or less), "I can't believe this is real," and, "Can they really do that?," and , "Wow, I'll bet a bunch of people aren't happy with this."

It's not "Spinal Tap," but it's a good job.

Sophomoric? Bitter? Sometimes tasteless? Imperfect in production values and uneven in casting? Sure.
And so what?

Who here really thinks that there are 10 more that are going to be made?

This one got completed & released days before Cooley's return to Providence this weekend. That in itself is impressive.

Those who think Ed was perfectly okay for chasing the 'better opportunity' might consider this hit job as part of the price he paid. In other words, why should he have it both ways?

 

[Deleted at users request]

I'm not sure whether I'm more impressed or amazed that anybody here thinks that this is anything other than a combination of a sustained put-on and a jilted lover's poison pen.

People more often than not aren't at their most emotionally mature best when they get dumped. And few people harness their hurt & fury to sustain telling their story. Here the style is so familiar that many here are criticizing it as though it's real while at the same time saying (more or less), "I can't believe this is real," and, "Can they really do that?," and , "Wow, I'll bet a bunch of people aren't happy with this."

It's not "Spinal Tap," but it's a good job.

Sophomoric? Bitter? Sometimes tasteless? Imperfect in production values and uneven in casting? Sure.
And so what?

Who here really thinks that there are 10 more that are going to be made?

This one got completed & released days before Cooley's return to Providence this weekend. That in itself is impressive.

Those who think Ed was perfectly okay for chasing the 'better opportunity' might consider this hit job as part of the price he paid. In other words, why should he have it both ways?

Does going that hard about the situation affect how the rest of the docs come out and if they do?

If it does, it’s pretty selfish. Especially when again, they could’ve spent some of that time talking about some of the better parts of Providence history.

Giving very much so bitter ex. I hope the docs make it to ours because it does have a lot of potential if they focus on the right things.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Those who think Ed was perfectly okay for chasing the 'better opportunity' might consider this hit job as part of the price he paid. In other words, why should he have it both ways?

Let me try to rephrase your question:

Because Ed Cooley switched jobs as a basketball coach, the trade off should be that people (who by their own admission don't know for certain) are allowed to make accusations about his personal life and marriage?

That doesn't seem a bit demented to you?

If someone went on video and had the balls to say I 100% know for a fact x happened which is why he left, I could at least respect it.

Citing message boards, twitter, a friend of a friend, is chicken ish.

You want to talk? Put your name on it.

 

[storrsroars]

Giving very much so bitter ex. I hope the docs make it to ours because it does have a lot of potential if they focus on the right things.

Is the right thing Kevin Ollie? Because based on this first one, color me concerned.

 

[superjohn]

Let me try to rephrase your question:

Because Ed Cooley switched jobs as a basketball coach, the trade off should be that people (who by their own admission don't know for certain) are allowed to make accusations about his personal life and marriage?

That doesn't seem a bit demented to you?

If someone went on video and had the balls to say I 100% know for a fact x happened which is why he left, I could at least respect it.

Citing message boards, twitter, a friend of a friend, is chicken ish.

You want to talk? Put your name on it.

They all did put their name and face out there.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Let me try to rephrase your question:

Because Ed Cooley switched jobs as a basketball coach, the trade off should be that people (who by their own admission don't know for certain) are allowed to make accusations about his personal life and marriage?

That doesn't seem a bit demented to you?

If someone went on video and had the balls to say I 100% know for a fact x happened which is why he left, I could at least respect it.

Citing message boards, twitter, a friend of a friend, is chicken ish.

You want to talk? Put your name on it.

Georgetown was allowed to hire Ed Cooley.

Ed Cooley was allowed to accept the job.

Many Providence fans were allowed to be angry about that.

Some of those partisans would appear to have made a bitter-edged mockumentary about Providence basketball that frames its story around Ed Cooley, and includes speculation & innuendo regarding Cooley's departure that to those fans felt abrupt, painful, and deceitful.

Those who watch the film are allowed to like or dislike, trust or distrust, approve or disapprove of any or all of the production quality, the story, the story's editorial slant & emphasis, the narrative's sourcing, and so on.

ESPN's ownership, management, and legal team are allowed to pursue any grievances they have with the product, its presentation, its distribution, its authenticity, its veracity, etc., and seek available remedies and damages if they believe it's in their shareholders' interests to do so.

In the alternative, on the off chance that this is genuine ESPN product, the same list can defend RSPN's interests.

Ed Cooley, Georgetown University, The Big East Conference, or any other party with any similar objections could act to protect itself from damage.

You're allowed to have your opinions on aspects that you've found bothersome, and others are allowed to agree or disagree with them, or have their own opinions.

The entire Cooley-to-Georgetown story only peripherally involves me (Conference rival drama) and barely affects me (not my team), so I don't need to give the matter much more than cursory attention. From what I saw & heard last spring, Cooley seems to have behaved with compromised integrity; it might titilate me or others to hear or say that what he did was "scummy;" and, as a general matter, rumors of marital infidelity are eternally the stuff of tabloid gossip, which almost always has appeal when attached to public figures.

I'm not lobbying for others to adopt my lower level depth of feeling or more blase point of view, and Içm disinclined to give much energy toward weighing whether or not things are demented, unworthy of respect, or chicken ish. You seem to feel differently. I'm ok with that

 

[Deleted at users request]

Is the right thing Kevin Ollie? Because based on this first one, color me concerned.

Right. Please don’t spend an hour talking about the rise and fall of the Ollie era with random boneyarders speaking on how his drinking habits caused his tenure to end.

 

[FriarJ]

The entire source of PC fans' anger is this, that he demonstrated clearly and definitively that PC is only a stepping stone.

Wrong, you are the Energizer Bunny of Wrong. Congrats!

 

[FriarJ]

"Common knowledge" that's a pretty bold claim and nobody as far as I know has gone on record and officially said that. I mean the doc featured Twitter screen shots and the guy being interviewed was "it was on SCOUT message board!".

After watching it, I wouldn't be surprised if the Big East issues a cease and desist to have them remove the name and logo from their page and giving Fanta a spanking for allowing himself to be a part of it.



Would definitely be interested in your opinion after finishing. Post back if you can.

I would stake my life and the life of my family on the veracity of the reports. That’s how much I know about it. Without getting into details I have a brother in law enforcement. When he says he read it on the message board, you and I both know that if someone you trust immensely posts something on this board you can take it to the bank. That’s what happened in this case.

What is unseemly and what has PC fans so irate is that he was not man enough to own up to his problems without exposing them. Instead he used his sycophants in the media to dump on PC and state how much better the job was at Georgetown and he had to take it. The lies are exposed by his own words in this video. He can rot in hell. DC has changed since they heyday. Nobody is going to Georgetown games and he will never have what he had here from a fan perspective. He was arrogant to believe it was all him. It wasn’t, it never was. It was us supporting him.

Here is something you can take to the bank. PC sent him to rehab multiple times including the summer after the S16. There are not enough F. u’s available in the world for this guy.

 

[Punkbo]

I would stake my life and the life of my family on the veracity of the reports. That’s how much I know about it. Without getting into details I have a brother in law enforcement. When he says he read it on the message board, you and I both know that if someone you trust immensely posts something on this board you can take it to the bank. That’s what happened in this case.

What is unseemly and what has PC fans so irate is that he was not man enough to own up to his problems without exposing them. Instead he used his sycophants in the media to dump on PC and state how much better the job was at Georgetown and he had to take it. The lies are exposed by his own words in this video. He can rot in hell. DC has changed since they heyday. Nobody is going to Georgetown games and he will never have what he had here from a fan perspective. He was arrogant to believe it was all him. It wasn’t, it never was. It was us supporting him.

Here is something you can take to the bank. PC sent him to rehab multiple times including the summer after the S16. There are not enough F. u’s available in the world for this guy.

Georgetown is a better job than Providence.

 

[Deleted at users request]

I would stake my life and the life of my family on the veracity of the reports. That’s how much I know about it. Without getting into details I have a brother in law enforcement. When he says he read it on the message board, you and I both know that if someone you trust immensely posts something on this board you can take it to the bank. That’s what happened in this case.

What is unseemly and what has PC fans so irate is that he was not man enough to own up to his problems without exposing them. Instead he used his sycophants in the media to dump on PC and state how much better the job was at Georgetown and he had to take it. The lies are exposed by his own words in this video. He can rot in hell. DC has changed since they heyday. Nobody is going to Georgetown games and he will never have what he had here from a fan perspective. He was arrogant to believe it was all him. It wasn’t, it never was. It was us supporting him.

Here is something you can take to the bank. PC sent him to rehab multiple times including the summer after the S16. There are not enough F. u’s available in the world for this guy.

The bitter scorned energy ex is so strong here.

Why would any coach worth his salt want to coach at PC if the reward for doing anything great and leaving for a better opportunity would be y’all having a if we can’t have him nobody can attitude?

Y’all fanbase need some self awareness lol

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Wrong, you are the Energizer Bunny of Wrong. Congrats!

I'm going to need to see quite a bit of evidence to the contrary before I believe PC is not merely a stepping stone.

Since day one of the Big East (Jimmy Carter was President, the NHL had not yet merged with thw WHA and you & I were very early in our collegiate careers), the only PC head coaches who didn't leave for a better job (whether that was the NBA, Clemson, Virginia or Georgetown) were those who couldn't land abetter job.

Hell, your current head coach, while still in his honeymoon phase gushed about the regard he holds Georgetown in. If he starts winning consistently at PC he'll start getting offers. It will take him ten minutes to pack his bags once his version of Clemson or Virginia calls.

 

[Kembacity]

So is this the part where we start to try to predict the framing of the UConn episode, or any others?

I’m thinking ours will be framed around the question that we can’t seem to go a week without since last April, “is UConn a blue blood?” They’ll cover the beginnings and how we were the BE whipping boy when JC came along, they’ll spend 20-30 minutes on Ollie and the fade into mediocrity, and then they’ll get us all perked up hard about the Hurley era and the direction he’s got this thing going in now.